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What are the 3 best songs on Clockwork Angels?

Caravan
71 (12.2%)
BU2B
46 (7.9%)
Clockwork Angels
85 (14.6%)
The Anarchist
44 (7.6%)
Carnies
19 (3.3%)
Halo Effect
11 (1.9%)
Seven Cities of Gold
21 (3.6%)
The Wreckers
46 (7.9%)
Headlong Flight
87 (14.9%)
BU2B2
4 (0.7%)
Wish Them Well
16 (2.7%)
The Garden
132 (22.7%)

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Author Topic: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst  (Read 497448 times)

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #7105 on: December 12, 2023, 09:27:59 AM »
Probably no one but me will care, but experimental musician Fire-Toolz just released a cover of Tai-Shan. Pretty good!

Personally, I love the song Tai-Shan!

There were a lot of Rush fans that hated the song and called it a filler song which of course I don't think Rush had filler songs.



I think it's a very good song too; Geddy trashed it one time and it's my pet theory that that was the impetus of a lot of the hate.

I remember Geddy not really thrilled with it which had me scratching my head when I read that interview. There are a lot of keyboard nuisances that I think are wonderful but if you were a member of the Rush message boards back in the day, there wasn't a ton of love for that song.

To Hef - I took a listening of Fire-Toolz version and I really like it! Thanks for the head's up!  :tup

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #7106 on: December 12, 2023, 10:49:28 AM »
To Hef - I took a listening of Fire-Toolz version and I really like it! Thanks for the head's up!  :tup
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« Reply #7107 on: December 12, 2023, 11:12:09 AM »
Probably no one but me will care, but experimental musician Fire-Toolz just released a cover of Tai-Shan. Pretty good!

Personally, I love the song Tai-Shan!

There were a lot of Rush fans that hated the song and called it a filler song which of course I don't think Rush had filler songs.



I think it's a very good song too; Geddy trashed it one time and it's my pet theory that that was the impetus of a lot of the hate.

I remember Geddy not really thrilled with it which had me scratching my head when I read that interview. There are a lot of keyboard nuisances that I think are wonderful but if you were a member of the Rush message boards back in the day, there wasn't a ton of love for that song.
I didn't know Geddy didn't like it until it came up on this forum, probably just within the last few years.  I think it's fine, just maybe a weaker song by Rush standards.  I don't hate it at all; more like I could take it or leave it.

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #7108 on: December 12, 2023, 12:59:49 PM »

My take on the whole continuing Rush thing is this. I got the sense after last night that Geddy and Alex are going out as Rush again. They just need to sit down and talk about how, and then go through the process of finding the right person to play with. Ged answered questions that he'd like to try and play for three hours again, and you could just tell from his vibe that he's being coy -- it's going to happen. After an article I read where Ged said he doesn't plan too far ahead any longer, was finishing this book tour, going on vacation, and then discussing the future after that, I think Ged's being absolutely 100 percent forthright. He and Al will sit down in the spring and figure out what they are doing.


Something will happen. Geddy is all in. Won't be called Rush.


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I wonder what the implications are from a promotional and attendance perspective if they tour as Rush versus don't tour as Rush. I'd imagine touring as Rush would be more profitable and allow them to book bigger venues. Touring as "Lee and Lifeson" or whatever probably means more of a DT-sized tour or something like that.
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« Reply #7109 on: December 12, 2023, 01:05:34 PM »
I don't have any idea why they WOULDN'T tour as Rush.
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« Reply #7110 on: December 12, 2023, 01:13:51 PM »
There is the position that Rush is not just a band name, but the name of a specific group of three people: Alex, Geddy, and Neil.  Sure, Rush existed before Neil, 50 years ago or whatever it was, but Rush definitely became known as those three, just as Led Zeppelin was four specific individuals, just as Queen was four specific individuals.  Led Zeppelin bent their own rule a few times in situations where everyone knew exactly what was going on and why.  Queen chose to "qualify" their name; out of respect for Freddie, you can't just get a new singer and call it Queen.

You may not agree with not calling it Rush because it won't have Neil, but it's a completely understandable position and not an uncommon one.

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« Reply #7111 on: December 12, 2023, 01:41:35 PM »
I think it will also depend on the format. If they do sort of an all star band with multiple drummers, maybe even other singers or instrumentalists, it definitely would not feel like Rush and would need to have some other name.

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« Reply #7112 on: December 12, 2023, 01:42:26 PM »
There is the position that Rush is not just a band name, but the name of a specific group of three people: Alex, Geddy, and Neil.  Sure, Rush existed before Neil, 50 years ago or whatever it was, but Rush definitely became known as those three, just as Led Zeppelin was four specific individuals, just as Queen was four specific individuals.  Led Zeppelin bent their own rule a few times in situations where everyone knew exactly what was going on and why.  Queen chose to "qualify" their name; out of respect for Freddie, you can't just get a new singer and call it Queen.

You may not agree with not calling it Rush because it won't have Neil, but it's a completely understandable position and not an uncommon one.
It's understandable if that's the way that Geddy and Alex choose to do it.  What I don't understand is the EXPECTATION by anyone not named Geddy or Alex that if they tour, it won't be as Rush.  They ARE Rush; they are the only ones that get to decide if they use that name or not, and frankly it isn't anyone else's business.  But whichever way they want to do it is cool.
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« Reply #7113 on: December 12, 2023, 02:56:32 PM »
I can't point to anything specific, but I'm pretty sure that, on one or more occasions in the last 8 years, said that they would not perform under the "Rush" name unless it was all three of them.
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #7114 on: December 12, 2023, 03:15:46 PM »
Yeah, I would have a hard time seeing them do so. Not that I care, but I just don't see them doing it.
I can see them simply going out as Geddy Lee & Alex Lifeson.
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« Reply #7115 on: December 12, 2023, 03:35:27 PM »
Like having it billed as "Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson," with the sub-headline "Playing the music of Rush" is still going to sell.  It may not be big arenas, but it's something that can sell and people would want to go to.

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« Reply #7116 on: December 12, 2023, 03:45:35 PM »
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« Reply #7117 on: December 12, 2023, 04:34:04 PM »
Galexy Leefeson
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« Reply #7118 on: December 12, 2023, 04:36:30 PM »
Like having it billed as "Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson," with the sub-headline "Playing the music of Rush" is still going to sell.  It may not be big arenas, but it's something that can sell and people would want to go to.

I'd be shocked if it wasn't arenas.

The only way it's not is if they wanted something intimate with some storytelling.
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« Reply #7119 on: December 12, 2023, 04:42:35 PM »
Maybe they could tour Australia for the first time...........please?
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« Reply #7120 on: December 12, 2023, 04:45:50 PM »
Wow, Rush has never played Australia?

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« Reply #7121 on: December 12, 2023, 04:46:26 PM »
Maybe they could tour Australia for the first time...........please?

Over Neil Peart's dead body..   


Sorry  ;D
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« Reply #7123 on: December 12, 2023, 04:58:34 PM »
Wow, Rush has never played Australia?

Nope.


Maybe they could tour Australia for the first time...........please?

Over Neil Peart's dead body..   


Sorry  ;D

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« Reply #7124 on: December 12, 2023, 05:17:16 PM »
Jesus Tim. Lol
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« Reply #7125 on: December 12, 2023, 05:48:01 PM »
Jesus Tim. Lol
I think you mean Satan Tim.
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« Reply #7126 on: December 12, 2023, 05:48:38 PM »
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« Reply #7127 on: December 12, 2023, 05:49:44 PM »
I think we've had enough photomagic for one day. :lol
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« Reply #7128 on: December 12, 2023, 05:50:43 PM »
Challenge exectped.
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« Reply #7129 on: December 12, 2023, 06:00:23 PM »
I think we've had enough photomagic for one day. :lol
Just in case anyone missed it in the other thread....




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« Reply #7130 on: December 12, 2023, 06:08:12 PM »
My God.   I need to rub one out.
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« Reply #7131 on: December 12, 2023, 06:08:46 PM »
You can almost see my counterparts..
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« Reply #7132 on: December 12, 2023, 06:09:57 PM »
You can see my counterparts..

No, I see your little Frankenstein.
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« Reply #7133 on: December 12, 2023, 06:21:01 PM »
That was the first thing I woke up to this morning.
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« Reply #7134 on: December 12, 2023, 06:26:53 PM »
That was the first thing I woke up to this morning.
Pretty much just makes you want to go back to sleep. :lol
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« Reply #7135 on: December 12, 2023, 06:39:19 PM »
That was the first thing I woke up to this morning.
Pretty much just makes you want to go back to sleep. :lol

It's almost mid day and I still can't open the blinds, traumatized.
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« Reply #7136 on: December 12, 2023, 07:08:17 PM »
That was the first thing I woke up to this morning.
Pretty much just makes you want to go back to sleep. :lol

It's almost mid day and I still can't open the blinds, traumatized.
It's one of those sights that could cause people to need to see their therapist.

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« Reply #7137 on: December 12, 2023, 07:12:37 PM »
That was the first thing I woke up to this morning.

I wake up to it every morning.  :lol
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« Reply #7138 on: December 12, 2023, 07:20:36 PM »
That was the first thing I woke up to this morning.

I wake up to it every morning.  :lol

You mean your wife does!  :lol
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« Reply #7139 on: December 12, 2023, 07:46:29 PM »
Starts to open the door to the thread... No, sorry to disturb, I'll come back later....