Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst

[Nick]

That Signals set is pretty horrible, especially when you consider we already have a good 5.1 mix of Signals.

[gazinwales]

Indeed, the 5.1 found in the Sector 3 box and the Blu-Ray Audio
https://www.discogs.com/release/7384295-Rush-Signals

[Architeuthis]

Looks like a cash grab,  which if they can I can't blame them. The artwork looks cool and all, but I can't justify spending that kind of money. There are plenty of hard core Rush fans with deep pockets that will have to have this in their collection.
I'd rather hear new material from Geddy and Alex anytime..

[The Letter M]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-_XspE2hcs

The band have uploaded a new "visualizer" video for "The Analog Kid". Still won't convince me to buy their bare-bones box set.

-Marc.

[pg1067]

I watched the video.  It's lame for many reasons, not the least of which is that it includes no fawn-eyed girl with sun-browned legs.

[TAC]

Looks like a cash grab, which if they can I can't blame them.

So...do you think the band (Geddy & Alex) are directly involved in this or is it the "record company"?


I wonder how they really feel about it, because it's packages like this that make me lose respect for an artist. I can't behoove anyone from making money, and I can always choose not to purchase, but...things like this are so cheesy, bordering on classless.

[wolfking]

I have zero interest in these anniversary boxsets.  Who wants a big book of pictures and shit anyway?  If there's content with substance and worthwhile and is value for money fair enough maybe, but just seems a carrot to dangle infront of the absolute completists. 

[RodrigoAltaf]

Looks like a cash grab, which if they can I can't blame them.

So...do you think the band (Geddy & Alex) are directly involved in this or is it the "record company"?


I wonder how they really feel about it, because it's packages like this that make me lose respect for an artist. I can't behoove anyone from making money, and I can always choose not to purchase, but...things like this are so cheesy, bordering on classless.

They are not. And I know that from two sources: Hugh Syme confirmed this to me when I interviewed him about the Rush covers and asked about these reissues; and Andy Curran, who is in Envy of None with Alex and was Rush's A&R guy for ages, left Anthem Records when Rush called it quits in 2015. The band is no longer involved in the decisions about their catalogue.

[wolfking]

Looks like a cash grab, which if they can I can't blame them.

So...do you think the band (Geddy & Alex) are directly involved in this or is it the "record company"?


I wonder how they really feel about it, because it's packages like this that make me lose respect for an artist. I can't behoove anyone from making money, and I can always choose not to purchase, but...things like this are so cheesy, bordering on classless.

They are not. And I know that from two sources: Hugh Syme confirmed this to me when I interviewed him about the Rush covers and asked about these reissues; and Andy Curran, who is in Envy of None with Alex and was Rush's A&R guy for ages, left Anthem Records when Rush called it quits in 2015. The band is no longer involved in the decisions about their catalogue.

I would assume most of the time these things would be record company driven.  I guess the band would know all this and the possibilities of these sorts of things from the get go, but would still be slightly irritating if I were Alex and Geddy.

[TAC]

Looks like a cash grab, which if they can I can't blame them.

So...do you think the band (Geddy & Alex) are directly involved in this or is it the "record company"?


I wonder how they really feel about it, because it's packages like this that make me lose respect for an artist. I can't behoove anyone from making money, and I can always choose not to purchase, but...things like this are so cheesy, bordering on classless.

They are not. And I know that from two sources: Hugh Syme confirmed this to me when I interviewed him about the Rush covers and asked about these reissues; and Andy Curran, who is in Envy of None with Alex and was Rush's A&R guy for ages, left Anthem Records when Rush called it quits in 2015. The band is no longer involved in the decisions about their catalogue.

Thank you for the clarification.

[RodrigoAltaf]

Looks like a cash grab, which if they can I can't blame them.

So...do you think the band (Geddy & Alex) are directly involved in this or is it the "record company"?


I wonder how they really feel about it, because it's packages like this that make me lose respect for an artist. I can't behoove anyone from making money, and I can always choose not to purchase, but...things like this are so cheesy, bordering on classless.

They are not. And I know that from two sources: Hugh Syme confirmed this to me when I interviewed him about the Rush covers and asked about these reissues; and Andy Curran, who is in Envy of None with Alex and was Rush's A&R guy for ages, left Anthem Records when Rush called it quits in 2015. The band is no longer involved in the decisions about their catalogue.

I would assume most of the time these things would be record company driven.  I guess the band would know all this and the possibilities of these sorts of things from the get go, but would still be slightly irritating if I were Alex and Geddy.

I would be VERY annoyed if the band was still active and the record company decided to do something like this. As it stands right now, Rush is completely done. From a legacy standpoint, I'm fine with the other reissues with bonus material, but with nothing extra to add like the Signals one...it just reeks of cash grab.

[KevShmev]

I thought I read an interview with Geddy where he said he and Alex are asked if something can be released and they give a "yes" or "no," but other than that, they are not involved.

[Kram]

I thought I read an interview with Geddy where he said he and Alex are asked if something can be released and they give a "yes" or "no," but other than that, they are not involved.

Interesting!  If you can recall which interview this was, please share..

[ytserush]

Looks like a cash grab,  which if they can I can't blame them. The artwork looks cool and all, but I can't justify spending that kind of money. There are plenty of hard core Rush fans with deep pockets that will have to have this in their collection.
I'd rather hear new material from Geddy and Alex anytime..

Not happening. Haven't bought one of these Super Deluxes since 2112. (I've been in on the CD sets however. Except this time the only way to get the CD is in the box so I guess I'm out.) I did manage to get a sealed copy of the the Twilight Zone 45 reissue which was limited to 1000 copies in the 2112 Super Deluxe because that's the only thing I really wanted from that set.


The ONE thing that has been great about these is the art and design from Hugh Syme. Too bad he can't release a book with all of this on his own. I'd be way more interested in that. But unless there's a way to cherry pick individual aspects of these (no vinyl for one) I'm not interested when it's mostly sitting on my shelf already.

If there's no individual CD option on the next one (if there is one) I'm done.

[TAC]

The Snowdogs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHFhC-hx14

[pg1067]

The Snowdogs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHFhC-hx14

OK...the kid coming out to sing Temples with his hoodie had me laughing the whole time.  As did "kneel pert."     But not bad at all.

[KevShmev]

The Snowdogs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHFhC-hx14

OK...the kid coming out to sing Temples with his hoodie had me laughing the whole time.  As did "kneel pert."     But not bad at all.

It would have been a lot better had they covered a song from Power Windows.

[Kram]

The Snowdogs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHFhC-hx14

OK...the kid coming out to sing Temples with his hoodie had me laughing the whole time.  As did "kneel pert."     But not bad at all.

Yeah I think that kid was trying to conceal his identity by pulling the hoodie down over his face lol.  Other than that, surpisingly not bad!

[Stadler]

The Snowdogs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LHFhC-hx14

OK...the kid coming out to sing Temples with his hoodie had me laughing the whole time.  As did "kneel pert."     But not bad at all.

Yeah I think that kid was trying to conceal his identity by pulling the hoodie down over his face lol.  Other than that, surpisingly not bad!

Was he someone famous?  Or just had outstanding warrants, or something like that?

[pg1067]

The funny thing was that he wasn't even wearing the hoddie at the beginning of the video.  And when he returned for the end of Grand Finale, he had the hood down.

I'm envisioning a conversation that included something like this, "Dad...I don't want to be in your lame video!"  Dad then offers kid a new XBox game or something like that.  "Ok...I'll do it, but only if I can have my hoodie covering my face so my friends won't know it's me."

[Ben_Jamin]

You guys know there's more videos where the kid is not hiding himself.

[Stadler]

WOW.  From the comments here I thought that was a humorous, funny video, but those kids slayed.  That was really good. I loved that drummer; for all of Neil's precision, there was always an element of "Keith Moon" to his playing, and that drummer got the essence of that aspect of "Kneel" for sure. 

[gazinwales]

Signals 40th anniversary stand alone CD is coming to Japan at the end of next month, $18US plus shipping, a far cheaper option than the SDE.
https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16156?utm_source=MAIL&utm_medium=text-artistmail&utm_campaign=Rush-20230404-person_prod-UICY-16156

[goo-goo]

Signals 40th anniversary stand alone CD is coming to Japan at the end of next month, $18US plus shipping, a far cheaper option than the SDE.
https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16156?utm_source=MAIL&utm_medium=text-artistmail&utm_campaign=Rush-20230404-person_prod-UICY-16156

Would love to hear the Atmos mix. This is the 2015 remaster (from CDJapan) so it's really nothing new. Between this release and PF"s Dark Side of the Moon boxset that was released last week also with an Atmos mix, I'm a bit pissed that only those mixes are available through the boxset.

[faizoff]

Signals 40th anniversary stand alone CD is coming to Japan at the end of next month, $18US plus shipping, a far cheaper option than the SDE.
https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16156?utm_source=MAIL&utm_medium=text-artistmail&utm_campaign=Rush-20230404-person_prod-UICY-16156

Would love to hear the Atmos mix. This is the 2015 remaster (from CDJapan) so it's really nothing new. Between this release and PF"s Dark Side of the Moon boxset that was released last week also with an Atmos mix, I'm a bit pissed that only those mixes are available through the boxset.

Do you have an Atmos setup? I'm curious about these, I think the only thing I have in Atmos is Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson's last albums.

[ProfessorPeart]

While I'd like a standalone CD, the cheapest shipping option is $11. I might just get the remaster from HD Tracks instead. That's what I did with the first few albums since they never got a CD release with the Abbey Road remaster.

[Zydar]

Geddy's book is out on November 14.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqvBN2EgWfP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[ReaperKK]

Can't wait to read it.

[Samsara]

Pre-ordered!

[ytserush]

Signals 40th anniversary stand alone CD is coming to Japan at the end of next month, $18US plus shipping, a far cheaper option than the SDE.
https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UICY-16156?utm_source=MAIL&utm_medium=text-artistmail&utm_campaign=Rush-20230404-person_prod-UICY-16156

Thanks!  Very excited about this. That's all I really wanted (Although live tracks would have been nice.)

[ytserush]

Geddy's book is out on November 14.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqvBN2EgWfP/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Hoping for an "Author's Cut."

[gazinwales]

While I'd like a standalone CD, the cheapest shipping option is $11. I might just get the remaster from HD Tracks instead. That's what I did with the first few albums since they never got a CD release with the Abbey Road remaster.

What else can you get for $11 these days?
Shipping from Japan is always expensive, besides it's bound to be a collectors items in the future, being SHM-CD and limited pressing.

[ytserush]

While I'd like a standalone CD, the cheapest shipping option is $11. I might just get the remaster from HD Tracks instead. That's what I did with the first few albums since they never got a CD release with the Abbey Road remaster.

What else can you get for $11 these days?
Shipping from Japan is always expensive, besides it's bound to be a collectors items in the future, being SHM-CD and limited pressing.

Don't know if it will sound better than the Mobile Fidelity but it's going to be fun seeing if it does.

[gazinwales]

Signals is the main feature of the latest PROG magazine, it's on the cover and features a decent article.
Two things main things to take away, there are demo's and Terry Brown stated he'd like to remix the album.
So of course my question is, if the demo's still exist why aren't they included (from a historical perspective, the band don't release demo's) and why isn't there a TB remix included the deluxe box?

[Setlist Scotty]

Signals is the main feature of the latest PROG magazine, it's on the cover and features a decent article.
Two things main things to take away, there are demo's and Terry Brown stated he'd like to remix the album.
So of course my question is, if the demo's still exist why aren't they included (from a historical perspective, the band don't release demo's) and why isn't there a TB remix included the deluxe box?

Good question. I can only hope there will be enough backlash from the fans so that whoever's putting these things together realizes they screwed up and will remedy the problem for future 40th anniversary releases, assuming they continue to do them. I can almost see the failure or lack of success of the Signals reissue being an excuse for them to stop these reissues. "Well, the fans have spoken - everything after Moving Pictures won't sell like the earlier stuff..."