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What are the 3 best songs on Clockwork Angels?

Caravan
71 (12.2%)
BU2B
46 (7.9%)
Clockwork Angels
85 (14.6%)
The Anarchist
44 (7.6%)
Carnies
19 (3.3%)
Halo Effect
11 (1.9%)
Seven Cities of Gold
21 (3.6%)
The Wreckers
46 (7.9%)
Headlong Flight
87 (14.9%)
BU2B2
4 (0.7%)
Wish Them Well
16 (2.7%)
The Garden
132 (22.7%)

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Author Topic: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst  (Read 497437 times)

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5845 on: March 11, 2022, 07:48:43 PM »
Are you surprised that an animated video was released of a band missing their iconic drummer when a band is in retirement?  This release is on a studio album. Not a live album. Why is it so hard to understand you will not see old, live footage?
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5846 on: March 11, 2022, 07:52:11 PM »
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« Reply #5847 on: March 11, 2022, 08:41:57 PM »
Guys, are you surprised with Neil passed away that with a non live remaster that there will not be an old live cut video?

Makes no sense.

Huh?

Scotty was expecting something along the lines of the Tom Sawyer, Limelight and Vital Signs videos.  I was hoping for some live footage from the MP tour.  Neither of those things are made impossible by Neil's death.


Are you surprised that an animated video was released of a band missing their iconic drummer when a band is in retirement?  This release is on a studio album. Not a live album. Why is it so hard to understand you will not see old, live footage?

TONS of videos exist with the studio audio track combined with live video footage.  I don't find the animated video hard to understand, but I would have preferred something else.  Also, while the audio is from a studio album, this is part of an anniversary package that also includes live audio, so why not?  The video unquestionably exists (or existed).
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5848 on: March 11, 2022, 08:45:45 PM »
Are there other recent videos that include live footage? I'm assuming it was meant to be in the same vein as the video they did for The Spirit of Radio a little while back. I think it's a cool way to promote the legacy of the band and maybe introduce the music to a new generation of fans. There are plenty of videos of the band from that time period to go back and watch if that's what you want to see.

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5849 on: March 11, 2022, 09:55:54 PM »
I liked the video.

It was neatly done with the artistic style. Although the color choices reminded me of Led Zeppelins Mothership artwork.

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5850 on: March 12, 2022, 07:02:24 AM »
Pg, those videos are 40 plus years old. Rush is notorious for not having extras hang around. They just had a same style video that came out for the last remastered album, Permanent Waves.

It shouldn't be a surprise this is all they would do. 
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5851 on: March 12, 2022, 09:34:04 AM »
Pg, those videos are 40 plus years old. Rush is notorious for not having extras hang around. They just had a same style video that came out for the last remastered album, Permanent Waves.

It shouldn't be a surprise this is all they would do.
pg1067 got it right - I was expecting a video for YYZ like Tom Sawyer, Vital Signs and Limelight. I know that Rush is notorious for not having extra stuff, but as is evident from recent history, they *are* going through their vault and unearthing all sorts of stuff, whether it be the live recordings that have appeared on each of the 40th anniversary releases or the videos that have appeared on Beyond the Lighted Stage and the bonus disc for the R40 video box set. Do you mean to tell me that they don't have any video footage of the other 4 MP songs? I find that hard to believe. Of course, whether it's quality or not, or whether they'd have enough to cut proper videos is a whole other question. But I don't think my expectation of an in-studio video for YYZ is that unrealistic or impossible from an outsider's viewpoint.
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« Reply #5852 on: March 12, 2022, 09:38:07 AM »
I bet they don't. Plus, the last video for Spirit of Radio was well received. That was for the release of Permanent Waves.  So I would think is wouldn't surprise anyone that they would release another cartoon video.
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« Reply #5853 on: March 12, 2022, 09:40:43 AM »
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5854 on: March 12, 2022, 09:43:10 AM »
I bet they don't. Plus, the last video for Spirit of Radio was well received. That was for the release of Permanent Waves.  So I would think is wouldn't surprise anyone that they would release another cartoon video.

Yeah, I don't remember this kind of discussion when TSOR animated video dropped in 2020.
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5855 on: March 12, 2022, 09:44:22 AM »
Check this out though Scotty.

https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2022/03/11/rush-limelight-live-soundcheck-2012/
Yeah, I've seen that before. Wasn't that a bonus track on the Clockwork Angels Tour video?

Would love to see what they could do with the old footage from the 70s and 80s, especially if they went back to the original negatives! I know it won't be as clear as this, but I'm sure it would be waaaaay better than what we currently have.
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5856 on: March 12, 2022, 09:47:42 AM »
I would love that too. I just think they didn't have much back then except the live recordings.  I've loved the covers they've had from other bands. 
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« Reply #5857 on: March 12, 2022, 09:51:02 AM »
I've loved the covers they've had from other bands.
Those can be interesting, but aside from DT and maybe one or two others, I listen to them once and that's enough. I'd rather they just give us full shows from each tour for every release. They didn't do that for Hemispheres or PeW - I hope they start a new trend with MP for all future re-releases!
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« Reply #5858 on: March 12, 2022, 09:52:30 AM »
Count me in as among those who weren’t expecting any “lost footage” type of thing. I only thought, “Oh! Just the Spirit of Radio video. Very cool.”
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« Reply #5859 on: March 12, 2022, 11:03:35 AM »
Check this out though Scotty.

https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2022/03/11/rush-limelight-live-soundcheck-2012/
That footage is gold!!  With Geddy not singing most of the song, it really shows off just how incredible of players all 3 are/were!  I would love to see more of that soundcheck.

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« Reply #5860 on: March 12, 2022, 11:28:43 AM »
Check this out though Scotty.

https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2022/03/11/rush-limelight-live-soundcheck-2012/
That footage is gold!!  With Geddy not singing most of the song, it really shows off just how incredible of players all 3 are/were!  I would love to see more of that soundcheck.

I discovered that yesterday too, and it's simply amazing! I also found a bootleg on YouTube of the last full rehearsal of the T4E tour, the night before the first show.  Geddy doesn't sing all the lines on that one either, and without the crowd noise, it's mind-blowing to realize how much noise three people are doing on stage.

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« Reply #5861 on: March 12, 2022, 11:33:12 AM »
Check this out though Scotty.

https://www.notreble.com/buzz/2022/03/11/rush-limelight-live-soundcheck-2012/
That footage is gold!!  With Geddy not singing most of the song, it really shows off just how incredible of players all 3 are/were!  I would love to see more of that soundcheck.

I discovered that yesterday too, and it's simply amazing! I also found a bootleg on YouTube of the last full rehearsal of the T4E tour, the night before the first show.  Geddy doesn't sing all the lines on that one either, and without the crowd noise, it's mind-blowing to realize how much noise three people are doing on stage.
Is that bootleg audio only or is it a video bootleg?

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst
« Reply #5862 on: March 12, 2022, 02:37:14 PM »
Audio only,  unfortunately.

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« Reply #5863 on: March 12, 2022, 05:08:40 PM »
Pg, those videos are 40 plus years old. Rush is notorious for not having extras hang around. They just had a same style video that came out for the last remastered album, Permanent Waves.

It shouldn't be a surprise this is all they would do.

I didn't say I was surprised.  Just a bit disappointed.  And yeah...it's not a bad video.


Pg, those videos are 40 plus years old. Rush is notorious for not having extras hang around. They just had a same style video that came out for the last remastered album, Permanent Waves.

It shouldn't be a surprise this is all they would do.
pg1067 got it right - I was expecting a video for YYZ like Tom Sawyer, Vital Signs and Limelight. I know that Rush is notorious for not having extra stuff, but as is evident from recent history, they *are* going through their vault and unearthing all sorts of stuff, whether it be the live recordings that have appeared on each of the 40th anniversary releases or the videos that have appeared on Beyond the Lighted Stage and the bonus disc for the R40 video box set. Do you mean to tell me that they don't have any video footage of the other 4 MP songs? I find that hard to believe. Of course, whether it's quality or not, or whether they'd have enough to cut proper videos is a whole other question. But I don't think my expectation of an in-studio video for YYZ is that unrealistic or impossible from an outsider's viewpoint.

They're notorious for CLAIMING not to have extra stuff and yet that's exactly what we've been getting, so I'm not really ascribing any credibility to the prior claims.  In particular, this relates to video footage of the Montreal shows that was used for the ESL video.  Compare the track list on the video to the set list from the songs.  I refuse to believe that they simply turned the cameras off for half the set.  They must have recorded the entire set.  So the only question that remains is whether the footage still exists.
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« Reply #5864 on: March 12, 2022, 05:47:37 PM »
It's probably the quality of that show that they don't want to release I'd guess.
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« Reply #5865 on: March 13, 2022, 08:25:27 AM »
Hey, just read that Geddy & Alex are the voices of the cops in the new video.
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« Reply #5866 on: March 13, 2022, 08:34:18 AM »
Hey, just read that Geddy & Alex are the voices of the cops in the new video.

Saw that too in the credits of the video at the end. I had a feeling it was them when one spoke and it sounded like Alex.

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« Reply #5867 on: March 13, 2022, 03:32:14 PM »
My brother is a big fan of Rick Beato who is a musician/YT personality, and I think a few people here follow him on YouTube as well.

He just released a half hour break down video of Xanadu that I thought some of you might like.

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« Reply #5868 on: March 14, 2022, 05:16:41 PM »
Came here to post that video. It's a really great video of one of my favrotie Rush songs.

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« Reply #5869 on: March 16, 2022, 09:24:47 AM »
Alex will auction off hundreds of items from his career, including over 60 vintage guitars, on May 22.

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« Reply #5870 on: March 16, 2022, 10:12:50 AM »
Alex will auction off hundreds of items from his career, including over 60 vintage guitars, on May 22.

https://juliensauctions.com/about-auction?id=405

But to have the sort of money that these items - especially "Whitey" -- will garner.

Heck...it's $75 just to get the catalog!
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« Reply #5871 on: March 17, 2022, 04:22:30 PM »
Just checking in to say The Necromancer rocks  :metal

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« Reply #5872 on: March 17, 2022, 04:30:20 PM »
It does.  :metal

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« Reply #5873 on: March 18, 2022, 03:38:15 PM »
I have been listening to Power Windows on my iPod (ALAC) for the last week, what an amazing album, both sound and production wise.
I am actually going to use the remastered CD as a reference when shopping for new floor speakers.

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« Reply #5874 on: March 18, 2022, 03:43:08 PM »
I have been listening to Power Windows on my iPod (ALAC) for the last week, what an amazing album, both sound and production wise.
I am actually going to use the remastered CD as a reference when shopping for new floor speakers.

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Well, you should join the discussion in the Rush countdown thread, and spread some more Power Windows love there as well!  :biggrin:

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« Reply #5875 on: March 18, 2022, 07:45:27 PM »
I have been listening to Power Windows on my iPod (ALAC) for the last week, what an amazing album, both sound and production wise.
I am actually going to use the remastered CD as a reference when shopping for new floor speakers.

 :tup

Well, you should join the discussion in the Rush countdown thread, and spread some more Power Windows love there as well!  :biggrin:
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« Reply #5876 on: March 18, 2022, 07:46:32 PM »
Yeah, and while you're talking to pg, make sure you have a towel and some bleach.
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« Reply #5877 on: March 18, 2022, 07:49:57 PM »
I have been listening to Power Windows on my iPod (ALAC) for the last week, what an amazing album, both sound and production wise.
I am actually going to use the remastered CD as a reference when shopping for new floor speakers.
Funnily enough, I used to do this same thing. Only I would use the albums 2112, Moving Pictures, and Power Windows.

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« Reply #5878 on: March 18, 2022, 07:51:47 PM »
Only 15K?
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« Reply #5879 on: March 18, 2022, 07:53:40 PM »
Only 15K?
Believe it or not, but that is fairly inexpensive when it comes to high end speakers.
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