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What are the 3 best songs on Clockwork Angels?

Caravan
71 (12.2%)
BU2B
46 (7.9%)
Clockwork Angels
85 (14.6%)
The Anarchist
44 (7.6%)
Carnies
19 (3.3%)
Halo Effect
11 (1.9%)
Seven Cities of Gold
21 (3.6%)
The Wreckers
46 (7.9%)
Headlong Flight
87 (14.9%)
BU2B2
4 (0.7%)
Wish Them Well
16 (2.7%)
The Garden
132 (22.7%)

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3465 on: June 05, 2018, 07:39:36 AM »
Not sure I've never even made it to the end of S&A.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #3466 on: June 05, 2018, 10:16:36 AM »
Not sure I've never even made it to the end of S&A.

So, what you're saying is that you didn't hold on?
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3467 on: June 05, 2018, 10:19:07 AM »
Mind your own monkey business.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #3468 on: June 05, 2018, 10:23:26 AM »
Mind your own monkey business.

I Hope you were being sarcastic.
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3469 on: June 05, 2018, 10:24:29 AM »
Of course! :)
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3470 on: June 05, 2018, 10:30:09 AM »
The Way That Tim Blows. :biggrin:
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3471 on: June 05, 2018, 10:31:49 AM »
 :rollin
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #3472 on: June 05, 2018, 01:05:17 PM »
I think PG is missing The Larger Bowl for the spoon. 

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« Reply #3473 on: June 05, 2018, 01:36:00 PM »
Of course! :)

I think PG is missing The Larger Bowl for the spoon. 

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« Reply #3474 on: June 05, 2018, 02:25:18 PM »
Enough silliness. This little tangent is a far cry from the topic at hand.

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« Reply #3475 on: June 05, 2018, 02:27:36 PM »
Enough silliness. This little tangent is a far cry from the topic at hand.

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« Reply #3476 on: June 05, 2018, 06:02:12 PM »
You all have a malignant case of narcissism!  Keep an open mind and let your mind drift into a Spindrift..
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« Reply #3477 on: June 05, 2018, 07:23:54 PM »

Second Nature and Tai Shan are the obvious two "clunkers" from Hold Your Fire.  I would say those are the two least best songs of the synth era (1982-1987).

Totally disagree about Second Nature and Tai Shan, but other than that I'm with you.

I'm with you; I LOVE Second Nature, and I don't get the hate for Tai Shan, other than it's acknowledging what the band themselves have said.





I probably come across as a fan boy but despite what band members have to say about the following,  I'm not a fan of Working Man (though I realize its importance) or Limelight and I love Caress of Steel and like Tai Shan. While I recognize how they feel about certain songs, I don't let that influence my enjoyment of their work.

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« Reply #3478 on: June 05, 2018, 07:27:10 PM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

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« Reply #3479 on: June 05, 2018, 07:29:40 PM »
You Bet Your Life is one of my favorite tracks on RTB.

You trolling us?

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« Reply #3480 on: June 05, 2018, 07:31:44 PM »
You Bet Your Life is one of my favorite tracks on RTB.

You trolling us?

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3481 on: June 05, 2018, 07:31:54 PM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

Time And Motion is awesome!

You Bet Your Life is one of my favorite tracks on RTB.

You trolling us?

Would I do that? :lol


Seriously, I've always liked it.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #3482 on: June 05, 2018, 07:33:04 PM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

SPONTANEOUS RELATIONS AND THE LOOOOOONG ENDUUUUURRRRINGGGG  KIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNDDDDDDDDD...

You're high, that song rules. 
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« Reply #3483 on: June 05, 2018, 07:35:12 PM »
Not sure I've never even made it to the end of S&A.

I've been down that road more than enough times for the both of us and a bunch of others.

Don't worry. I've got you covered.

How many times?

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« Reply #3484 on: June 05, 2018, 07:38:57 PM »
When it comes to great album closers,  Cygnus X-1, Natural Science, Available Light, and The Garden all come to mind..

We've done this before, I think but Rush has a history of closing albums strongly, but if I was going to list my top 5 album closers, I think only Available Light makes it from that list.  In The End, Something For Nothing, Fountain of Lamneth, La Villa Strangiato, Countdown, even Between the Wheels...

HAD a history of closing albums strongly.

I would say Available Light was the last truly strong album closer.  I've said here multiple times that I find the love for The Garden to be completely baffling.  It's a big fizzle at the end of decent album at the end of a stellar career.  Almost every album up through Presto had an above average to great closer.

****Working Man - Arguably not a true closer, but definitely a case of saving the best for last.
****In the End - Possibly more lyrically a closer than musically.
**The Fountain of Lamneth (specifically Part VI: The Fountain) - This one falls a bit flat for me.
***Something for Nothing - A good, not great song.  All of side two pales in comparison to side one.
*****Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage - A true epic closer with a cliffhanger.
*****La Villa Strangiato - No explanation needed.
*****Natural Science - Make that three in a row.
***Vital Signs - Being the second weakest song on a nearly perfect seven song album is still pretty darn good.
****Countdown - I seem to be in a minority in my love for this song.  Possibly the first Rush song I ever heard.
****Between the Wheels - Second best song on the album.  Getting to this point was a chore.
*Mystic Rhythms - Bleh.  I'd give it half a star if I could make the symbol.
*High Water - More bleh.
*****Available Light - An excellent, underrated song and a great album closer.
*You Bet Your Life - From here on out, pretty much ever album fell off significantly in the second half.  I find none of the closers on the last six studio albums to be at all memorable.
*Everyday Glory
*Carve Away the Stone
*Out of the Cradle
*We Hold On
*The Garden

Continue to be baffled.  Other than Working Man You Bet Your Life and Carve Away The Stone, those closers would make one fine Rush compilation CD.

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3485 on: June 05, 2018, 07:40:57 PM »
How many times?


Honestly? Less than 5. I think it's terrible.

It sounds great though. Just the songs are so lacking. I feel like they were trying to build music around Neil's lyrics. There's just no sense of musical composition. Just a forced backdrop to Neil's poetry.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #3486 on: June 05, 2018, 07:56:46 PM »
How many times?


Honestly? Less than 5. I think it's terrible.

It sounds great though. Just the songs are so lacking. I feel like they were trying to build music around Neil's lyrics. There's just no sense of musical composition. Just a forced backdrop to Neil's poetry.

Sorry. I'm messin' with you. That's the first line in the song.



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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3487 on: June 05, 2018, 08:04:20 PM »
 :lol

I thought you were asking how many times I tried to make it through S&A.  :facepalm:
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« Reply #3488 on: June 05, 2018, 08:17:46 PM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

SPONTANEOUS RELATIONS AND THE LOOOOOONG ENDUUUUURRRRINGGGG  KIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNDDDDDDDDD...

You're high, that song rules.
I'll second that!  :tup
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« Reply #3489 on: June 05, 2018, 08:27:06 PM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

SPONTANEOUS RELATIONS AND THE LOOOOOONG ENDUUUUURRRRINGGGG  KIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNDDDDDDDDD...

You're high, that song rules.
I'll second that!  :tup
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« Reply #3490 on: June 05, 2018, 08:28:34 PM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

SPONTANEOUS RELATIONS AND THE LOOOOOONG ENDUUUUURRRRINGGGG  KIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNDDDDDDDDD...

You're high, that song rules.
I'll second that!  :tup
Thirded!  :tup :tup
Let's make it 4. :)

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« Reply #3491 on: June 05, 2018, 08:29:29 PM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

SPONTANEOUS RELATIONS AND THE LOOOOOONG ENDUUUUURRRRINGGGG  KIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNDDDDDDDDD...

You're high
, that song rules.

It's not the weekend yet. :P


Time And Motion is poor.
 

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« Reply #3492 on: June 06, 2018, 03:36:35 AM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

SPONTANEOUS RELATIONS AND THE LOOOOOONG ENDUUUUURRRRINGGGG  KIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNDDDDDDDDD...

You're high, that song rules.
I'll second that!  :tup
Thirded!  :tup :tup
Let's make it 4. :)

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« Reply #3493 on: June 06, 2018, 04:30:36 AM »
Tail Shan kisses all over anything on TFE, VT and S&A :omg:

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« Reply #3494 on: June 06, 2018, 09:35:39 AM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

That's not possible. It wasn't on Grace Under Pressure.  :)   "Kid Gloves, handle with kid gloves... then you learn the lessons and the ways of hard-knock school!"   Bleck!

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« Reply #3495 on: June 06, 2018, 09:50:24 AM »
Yet, you know those lyrics Stads. :lol
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« Reply #3496 on: June 06, 2018, 09:51:46 AM »
Yet, you know those lyrics Stads. :lol

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« Reply #3497 on: June 06, 2018, 10:03:43 AM »
When it comes to great album closers,  Cygnus X-1, Natural Science, Available Light, and The Garden all come to mind..

We've done this before, I think but Rush has a history of closing albums strongly, but if I was going to list my top 5 album closers, I think only Available Light makes it from that list.  In The End, Something For Nothing, Fountain of Lamneth, La Villa Strangiato, Countdown, even Between the Wheels...

HAD a history of closing albums strongly.

I would say Available Light was the last truly strong album closer.  I've said here multiple times that I find the love for The Garden to be completely baffling.  It's a big fizzle at the end of decent album at the end of a stellar career.  Almost every album up through Presto had an above average to great closer.

****Working Man - Arguably not a true closer, but definitely a case of saving the best for last.
****In the End - Possibly more lyrically a closer than musically.
**The Fountain of Lamneth (specifically Part VI: The Fountain) - This one falls a bit flat for me.
***Something for Nothing - A good, not great song.  All of side two pales in comparison to side one.
*****Cygnus X-1, Book I: The Voyage - A true epic closer with a cliffhanger.
*****La Villa Strangiato - No explanation needed.
*****Natural Science - Make that three in a row.
***Vital Signs - Being the second weakest song on a nearly perfect seven song album is still pretty darn good.
****Countdown - I seem to be in a minority in my love for this song.  Possibly the first Rush song I ever heard.
****Between the Wheels - Second best song on the album.  Getting to this point was a chore.
*Mystic Rhythms - Bleh.  I'd give it half a star if I could make the symbol.
*High Water - More bleh.
*****Available Light - An excellent, underrated song and a great album closer.
*You Bet Your Life - From here on out, pretty much ever album fell off significantly in the second half.  I find none of the closers on the last six studio albums to be at all memorable.
*Everyday Glory
*Carve Away the Stone
*Out of the Cradle
*We Hold On
*The Garden

Continue to be baffled.  Other than Working Man You Bet Your Life and Carve Away The Stone, those closers would make one fine Rush compilation CD.

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« Reply #3498 on: June 06, 2018, 05:07:12 PM »
To expand on my comment from the other day, even though I think Tai Shan is one of the two weakest songs of the synth era, I still don't think it's as bad as many do.  It sure beats slop like Slime and Motion.

That's not possible. It wasn't on Grace Under Pressure.  :)   "Kid Gloves, handle with kid gloves... then you learn the lessons and the ways of hard-knock school!"   Bleck!

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« Reply #3499 on: June 06, 2018, 06:25:53 PM »
The problem with a compilation of closers would be that you'd keep anticipating that it would be over.

The CD that never ends. :lol
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol