Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst

[The Walrus]

Stadler complains about Rush's image but is a diehard KISS fan. I don't get it. 

[pg1067]

Stadler complains about Rush's image but is a diehard KISS fan. I don't get it. 

I'm the one who raised the issue, but Stadler gets grief for it.  LOL!

As with the mix, the image thing just made an already bad situation worse.

[Lethean]

Stadler complains about Rush's image but is a diehard KISS fan. I don't get it. 

I'm the one who raised the issue, but Stadler gets grief for it.  LOL!

As with the mix, the image thing just made an already bad situation worse.

You brought it up, but Stadler took it to the next level by posting pics.  There's nothing wrong with that Rush band picture. 

Also, you secretly like Grace as well. It's just buried deep in your subconscious, but it's the real reason for your forum name...

[The Walrus]

Yeah, but I also like to affectionately jab Stadler about his mancrush on Gene Simmons/KISS, so I couldn't resist 

[TAC]

7. Hold Your Fire




18. Grace Under Pressure

That makes like no sense.

[TAC]

OK..

1. Moving Pictures
2. Hemispheres
3. 2112
4. Permanent Waves
5. Counterparts
6. Signals
7. A Farewell To Kings

8. Presto
9. Grace Under Pressure
10. Vapor Trails
11. Clockwork Angels
12. Power Windows
13. Fly By Night
14. Rush
15. Roll The Bones
16. Hold Your Fire

17. Caress Of Steel
18. Test For Echo
19. Snakes And Arrows

[King Postwhore]

All this GUP talk I figured I should post my Rush tattoo.  My first Rush show was the GUP tour in 1984.

[TAC]

That's one hairy egg!



Actually, awesome tattoo, Joe. How long have you had that?

[King Postwhore]

Gray too!

5 or 6 years.  I keep saying I'll get one or two more.  Not going crazy though.

[TAC]

You should get one right above your ass because that is the real Vapor Trail!

[King Postwhore]

You should get one right above your ass because that is the real Vapor Trail!

More like a bio hazard sign.

[Stadler]

This may, partly, explain why you're so wrong about Grace Under Pressure.  It's not really that you don't like the melodies, you just think you don't because that picture influenced you negativity and got into your head.

Could be.    Better:


Best:


Very unfortunate:

[King Postwhore]

That's the Power Window's Alex and I love that look.

[The Walrus]

1st pic: 70s Tom Petty
2nd pic: Angry Grandpa
3rd pic: Handsome fella

[TAC]

That's the Power Window's Alex and I love that look.

And that look loves you.

[pg1067]

Stadler complains about Rush's image but is a diehard KISS fan. I don't get it. 

I'm the one who raised the issue, but Stadler gets grief for it.  LOL!

As with the mix, the image thing just made an already bad situation worse.

You brought it up, but Stadler took it to the next level by posting pics.  There's nothing wrong with good about that Rush band picture. 

Also, you secretly like Grace as well. It's just buried deep in your subconscious, but it's the real reason for your forum name...

LOL!  You outed me!  "p/g0484" was taken.

Also, ftfy.

This may, partly, explain why you're so wrong about Grace Under Pressure.  It's not really that you don't like the melodies, you just think you don't because that picture influenced you negativity and got into your head.

Could be.    Better:


Best:


Very unfortunate:

Power Windows Alex looks like Alan Hunter (one of the original MTV VJs), and recent Alex is telling some kids to get off his lawn.

[Stadler]

I'm surprised Kattleox hasn't outed me yet; that middle picture of Alex is me.

[The Walrus]

I'm surprised Kattleox hasn't outed me yet; that middle picture of Alex is me.

Don't be so surprised - it was the first thing I thought of when I saw it! 

Also, here's a question from a 90s baby: what was the deal with the broad shoulders in 80s clothing? The last pic of Alex should be captioned, "When you have a photoshoot at 3 but a business meeting at 4."

[King Postwhore]

You think that's bad you should have seen the shoulder pads on chicks clothing.

[TAC]

You think that's bad you should have seen the shoulder pads on chicks clothing.

Chicks' clothing? Plenty of dudes wearing showlda ma pads.

[pg1067]

Also, here's a question from a 90s baby: what was the deal with the broad shoulders in 80s clothing? The last pic of Alex should be captioned, "When you have a photoshoot at 3 but a business meeting at 4."

I lived through it and have no answer.  Of course, my "fashion" in the 80s was jeans or shorts and a band t-shirt and high-top sneakers, except when I was in high school in the first half of the decade, in which case it was khakis and a polo shirt (over my band t-shirt) and slip-on Vans.

[Lethean]

1st pic: 70s Tom Petty
2nd pic: Angry Grandpa
3rd pic: Handsome fella

Here's what I think:
1st pic: fine
2nd pic: fine
3rd pic: fine

Nothing wrong with any of them.  But I think it's now clear that Stadler would love Grace Under Pressure if Alex (and probably the others) had a different look.

[Cruithne]

I routinely view Grace Under Pressure as one of, if not, my favorite Rush record. Something about that album just speaks to me and I love it.

It is my favourite Rush album. It took me a long time to 'get' (a term I loathe, tbh) Red Lenses but in the end either Stockholm Syndrome kicked in or I simply got over the electronic(?) drums not suiting it very well and I rather enjoy it now.

Moving Pictures is a close second but P/G has a bleak quality to it that I absolutely adore and that's almost unique (I imagine it's not unique, but I've not come across another album quite like it). It captured the mood of British music of the time and put it through the Rush filter to produce a special album.

[Stadler]

I routinely view Grace Under Pressure as one of, if not, my favorite Rush record. Something about that album just speaks to me and I love it.

It is my favourite Rush album. It took me a long time to 'get' (a term I loathe, tbh) Red Lenses but in the end either Stockholm Syndrome kicked in or I simply got over the electronic(?) drums not suiting it very well and I rather enjoy it now.

Moving Pictures is a close second but P/G has a bleak quality to it that I absolutely adore and that's almost unique (I imagine it's not unique, but I've not come across another album quite like it). It captured the mood of British music of the time and put it through the Rush filter to produce a special album.

p/g is almost unique?  Listen to Ghost In The Machine, or Zenyatta Mondatta.   

To Lethean, it's not really about the "look" per se - as someone duly noted, I love Kiss, and also Marillion - so it's CLEARLY not about the look.  But it's the vibe.   If you ask me, it's the only time that Rush REALLY seemed to follow the trends of the time, as opposed to forging their own trail, at least since the first album.   

[pg1067]

But it's the vibe.   If you ask me, it's the only time that Rush REALLY seemed to follow the trends of the time, as opposed to forging their own trail, at least since the first album.   

This is exactly right.  Rush has always sponged up what was happening with other bands and converted it into something "Rushy."  Vital signs is a good example of that.  However, starting with GUP, they seemingly decided to go all-in on the new wave trends that were popular and didn't add enough of Rush's blend of 11 herbs and spices to make it uniquely theirs.

[The Walrus]

I strongly disagree because that led to the GOAT Rush album Power Windows and that album makes my heart weep 

[Nick]

I can barely entertain the thought in my mind of Grace Under Pressure being Rush's best album, as it's not Power Windows and so not the clear front runner as best album from that era. Add to that it has at least one clunker on it (and I'd argue two), and while great it's not even in discussion as the best imo.

[Orbert]

It's almost as though different people prefer different things.

[Lethean]

But it's the vibe.   If you ask me, it's the only time that Rush REALLY seemed to follow the trends of the time, as opposed to forging their own trail, at least since the first album.   

This is exactly right.  Rush has always sponged up what was happening with other bands and converted it into something "Rushy."  Vital signs is a good example of that.  However, starting with GUP, they seemingly decided to go all-in on the new wave trends that were popular and didn't add enough of Rush's blend of 11 herbs and spices to make it uniquely theirs.

Sorry, but you're both wrong.  Pg, stop disparaging your namesake.

In all seriousness, Rush always did things on their own terms.  Grace, and the albums after it, are absolutely Rushy.  They incorporated new sounds, that they were very much into, and made them their own.  This probably includes their attire as well - what they chose in the 80s was probably a reaction to what they had chosen in the 70s.

[Architeuthis]

But it's the vibe.   If you ask me, it's the only time that Rush REALLY seemed to follow the trends of the time, as opposed to forging their own trail, at least since the first album.   

This is exactly right.  Rush has always sponged up what was happening with other bands and converted it into something "Rushy."  Vital signs is a good example of that.  However, starting with GUP, they seemingly decided to go all-in on the new wave trends that were popular and didn't add enough of Rush's blend of 11 herbs and spices to make it uniquely theirs.

Vital Signs has has a Reggae vibe to it and sounds like something The Police would have done.  New World Man definitely has a Police influence. Even though I kind of like The Police, NWM is one of my least favorite Rush songs yet it still gets lots of airplay.  Songs like Analog Kid, Grand Designs, or Mission would be much better to hear on the radio.

[ProfessorPeart]

It's almost as though different people prefer different things.

Different eyes see different things
Different hearts
Beat on different strings

[Stadler]

But it's the vibe.   If you ask me, it's the only time that Rush REALLY seemed to follow the trends of the time, as opposed to forging their own trail, at least since the first album.   

This is exactly right.  Rush has always sponged up what was happening with other bands and converted it into something "Rushy."  Vital signs is a good example of that.  However, starting with GUP, they seemingly decided to go all-in on the new wave trends that were popular and didn't add enough of Rush's blend of 11 herbs and spices to make it uniquely theirs.

Sorry, but you're both wrong.  Pg, stop disparaging your namesake.

In all seriousness, Rush always did things on their own terms.  Grace, and the albums after it, are absolutely Rushy.  They incorporated new sounds, that they were very much into, and made them their own.  This probably includes their attire as well - what they chose in the 80s was probably a reaction to what they had chosen in the 70s.

See, if we were talking about Signals (number 4 on my list) or Power Windows (number 8) - which bookend p/g - you might be right. 

[Lethean]

I am right.  You might not like Grace Under Pressure, but it's still just as Rush as anything else, and it's what they wanted to do. 

[The Walrus]

It's definitely better than Test For Echo.

Wind 'em up and watch 'em go... *quickly leaves thread*

[pg1067]

Grace Under Pressure . . . [is] what they wanted to do.

Well...we've finally found some common ground.