Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst

[Lucien]

One thing that *really* irked me about when Rush was on Colbert is how much he played on the "long songs" things when making jokes. Rush has what, 2 songs over like 12 minutes long? And a handful more in the 8-12 minutes range. And the last time they did a side long epic? Over 35 years ago. Rush is the shining example of prog being able to contain itself into manageable pieces. While still being amazing, at least.

This irked me quite a bit as well. It was as if Rush was the only band that ever made long songs. Hello, symphonies and sonatas, operas and all the other long pieces.

[KevShmev]

Eh, that joke was probably written by one of his writers, and it was a funny joke after all..."Have you ever written a song so long that by the time it was finished, you had influenced yourselves?"  

In other words, relax, people.  It was just a joke, and jokes can sometimes be based off of a distortion of the truth.

[Nick]

Eh, that joke was probably written by one of his writers, and it was a funny joke after all..."Have you ever written a song so long that by the time it was finished, you had influenced yourselves?"  

In other words, relax, people.  It was just a joke, and jokes can sometimes be based off of a distortion of the truth.

Yes, it was funny, but it gave a false impression of the band. And Colbert could have easily been just as funny with other jokes.

[KevShmev]

See, this is why Rush fans often get knocked for being too serious and overly defensive about the band.  Who cares if it gave a false impression about the band?  It was a freaking joke.  Jeez.

[King Postwhore]

I'm with Kev.  I never laughed so hard.

[rickhawk80]

The band all laughed pretty good naturedly at that line.  I thought it was hilarious. 

[ytserush]

I thought it was pretty funny myself.




I'm sure a few people know about this already, but...

https://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage/media-260/compact-discs/rush-rediscovered-lp-box-set.html

On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it a 7.  The band history information and clippings from that period of most interest to me. I was hoping for more, but I guess they didn't want to make it TOO expensive.

What would be REALLY cool as if they reissued the first single on Record Store Day this year.

[theseoafs]

Eh, that joke was probably written by one of his writers, and it was a funny joke after all..."Have you ever written a song so long that by the time it was finished, you had influenced yourselves?"  

In other words, relax, people.  It was just a joke, and jokes can sometimes be based off of a distortion of the truth.

Yes, it was funny, but it gave a false impression of the band. And Colbert could have easily been just as funny with other jokes.

From memory, the joke was something along the lines of "you're known for writing long songs.  Have you ever written a song so long that you find yourselves being influenced by yourselves at the beginning of the song?"  There's nothing misleading about that -- it's one hundred percent true.  Rush IS known for writing long songs.  And that's just a single joke out of an entire episode, about half of which was devoted to talking about how awesome Rush was, and how awesome it was that they were appearing on American TV.

No need to be upset.  Rush was on Colbert and it was glorious.

[jammindude]

I thought it was pretty funny myself.




I'm sure a few people know about this already, but...

https://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage/media-260/compact-discs/rush-rediscovered-lp-box-set.html

On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it a 7.  The band history information and clippings from that period of most interest to me. I was hoping for more, but I guess they didn't want to make it TOO expensive.

What would be REALLY cool as if they reissued the first single on Record Store Day this year.

The big deal for me...would have been the original mixes...which I have still never heard.   I would have paid FAR more for that.   Even if it were just a two LP set with the original and Broon's remix packaged together.  Or how about including a CD single of the first single which has still never seen a CD release?

I think the price is right for what you get...but I would have EASILY paid $50 to have a couple more gems.

[KevShmev]

More on the Colbert thing, remember that, to many people, any song over 5 minutes is considered a long song (swear to God!), so Rush being known for writing long songs IS true.  Just because a bunch of prog bands have many more long songs than Rush doesn't mean that it's not true about Rush.  But, once again, it was a joke!!

[Nick]

More on the Colbert thing, remember that, to many people, any song over 5 minutes is considered a long song (swear to God!), so Rush being known for writing long songs IS true.  Just because a bunch of prog bands have many more long songs than Rush doesn't mean that it's not true about Rush.  But, once again, it was a joke!!

No, it was a bunch of jokes.

I thought it was pretty funny myself.




I'm sure a few people know about this already, but...

https://www.rushbackstage.com/rushbackstage/media-260/compact-discs/rush-rediscovered-lp-box-set.html

On a scale of 1 to 10, I give it a 7.  The band history information and clippings from that period of most interest to me. I was hoping for more, but I guess they didn't want to make it TOO expensive.

What would be REALLY cool as if they reissued the first single on Record Store Day this year.

I'm pre-ordered. Looked like a neat little set.

[TL]

I wonder if they'll release a run of vinyl reissues separate from the box set.
I'm almost definitely going to buy the set instead of waiting to see if they do though.

[TL]

So I went to see if Amazon had it;

This box set is #1 in music on Canadian Amazon right now.
Like, the top selling music thing, for the entire site right now.

That's pretty cool.

[nicmos]

I don't usually watch American Idol, but was surfing the channels tonight, and apparently one of the contestants sang Working Man!  How about that for a change in mainstream attitudes towards Rush!  Combined with the Superb Owl commercial, things seem to definitely be changing.

[theseoafs]

Link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftmsVuzCA90

The guy actually sounds fantastic.  His voice might even suit the song better than Geddy's original recording.

[Anguyen92]

This guy has some sort of a Jack Black-vibe to me.  Not a bad thing.

[nicmos]

more like a 70s hair vibe, and not in a good way 

[ytserush]

So I went to see if Amazon had it;

This box set is #1 in music on Canadian Amazon right now.
Like, the top selling music thing, for the entire site right now.

That's pretty cool.

That's pretty insane, but I guess it's possible given a snapshot of a moment in time.


I still have this fear that Ray Danniels already has the more expensive one with extra goodies in the pipeline for release in time for Christmas.....

[theseoafs]

Band's potentially planning on a 41st anniversary tour starting next year.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rush-plotting-41st-anniversary-tour-for-2015-20140320

[jammindude]

40th Anniversary of the first album with Neil in the band....close enough. 

[The Letter M]

Band's potentially planning on a 41st anniversary tour starting next year.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rush-plotting-41st-anniversary-tour-for-2015-20140320

Only Rush would celebrate a 41st Anniversary with a tour.

I'm game! I saw them on the CA Tour last year and it was AMAZING. And Alex's wanting to do RARER material makes me happy. Hopefully they FINALLY bring out "Jacob's Ladder". You know what would absolutely be a shock, though? ANYTHING from Caress Of Steel, especially "The Necromancer" (in whole!). Although if they did parts (or all) of "The Fountain Of Lamneth", I think the Rush fandom could die happy.

Either way, whatever they decide to play, be it rarer tunes from the 70's, 80's or 90's, it'll be amazing. Heck, break out half the songs from Vapor Trails they haven't played yet! Now that it's been remastered and remixed and re-released, the album deserves some live love! Play "Vapor Trail" or "Freeze" (with the rest of the 'Fear' songs as well!) or "Nocturne"!

-Marc.

[Lucien]

I just want them to play Emotion Detector, the one song from my favorite album of theirs (Power Windows) that they haven't played. In fact, during the past like 2 tours, they've played EVERY single song off that album EXCEPT Emotion Detector, which wasn't played on Power Windows' promotional tour either.

[jammindude]

Band's potentially planning on a 41st anniversary tour starting next year.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/rush-plotting-41st-anniversary-tour-for-2015-20140320

Only Rush would celebrate a 41st Anniversary with a tour.

I'm game! I saw them on the CA Tour last year and it was AMAZING. And Alex's wanting to do RARER material makes me happy. Hopefully they FINALLY bring out "Jacob's Ladder". You know what would absolutely be a shock, though? ANYTHING from Caress Of Steel, especially "The Necromancer" (in whole!). Although if they did parts (or all) of "The Fountain Of Lamneth", I think the Rush fandom could die happy.

Either way, whatever they decide to play, be it rarer tunes from the 70's, 80's or 90's, it'll be amazing. Heck, break out half the songs from Vapor Trails they haven't played yet! Now that it's been remastered and remixed and re-released, the album deserves some live love! Play "Vapor Trail" or "Freeze" (with the rest of the 'Fear' songs as well!) or "Nocturne"!

-Marc.

Not saying Alex isn't being truthful....I'm sure he means every word of it....but he says this before every tour.     I honestly believe he would love to do more rare material, because he is always saying he wants to dig into the vaults.   (wasn't he just quoted before one of the recent tours that he had been wanting to pull out Jacob's Ladder???)    And I'm not even saying it won't happen...I'm just not getting my hopes up.   

I'm thinking that it will just be a recycling of things they haven't played in awhile.   It's hard to believe, but I don't think they've played The Trees in over a decade.

[jammindude]

I just want them to play Emotion Detector, the one song from my favorite album of theirs (Power Windows) that they haven't played. In fact, during the past like 2 tours, they've played EVERY single song off that album EXCEPT Emotion Detector, which wasn't played on Power Windows' promotional tour either.

My memory could be faulty, but I seem to recall an interview not long after that tour where they were reflecting on Power Windows, and they were recognizing it as a very strong album, but the consensus was that ED was the one track that they felt didn't turn out as strong as the rest of the pack.

I like it to, and when the album was new, it was absolutely one of my favorites.  (I think that's why I remember the interview so well...because it was so disappointing to read at the time.)   But to be honest, the song hasn't aged very well.   Today it is probably my least favorite from the album. 

[theseoafs]

I honestly believe he would love to do more rare material, because he is always saying he wants to dig into the vaults.   (wasn't he just quoted before one of the recent tours that he had been wanting to pull out Jacob's Ladder???)    And I'm not even saying it won't happen...I'm just not getting my hopes up.   

If I remember correctly, they actually did try out Jacob's Ladder for the Time Machine Tour -- they dusted it off and rehearsed it, but I think Lerxst said in an interview it wasn't sounding right so they shelved it.  So I wouldn't count on Jacob's Ladder for this tour, but other "rare" songs aren't out of the question.

[Ben_Jamin]

Twilight Zone...

[Anguyen92]

Man, it doesn't matter what "rare" songs are going to be played, it's always going to be good.  It doesn't matter what kind of tour theme these guys are going to do, it's going to be awesome.  This may be my 1st and only chance to see these guys if they hit the SoCal area.

Hmmmm, now then.  What songs will they bring out?  I agree that some of the songs from Vapor Trails could be played since they released the remastered and remixed version of it.  Hopefully, Freeze and Out of the Cradle are some of the considerations amongst other songs from the vast catalog.

[The Letter M]

And if they wanted to, they could always break out one or two or all three of the tracks from S&A they haven't played yet - "Good News First", "Bravest Face" and "We Hold On".

Also, the unplayed tracks from Counterparts would be welcomed as well! "Cut To The Chase", "Alien Shore" and "Everyday Glory" would be neat. And bring back "Nobody's Hero" for an acoustic set, even if it means hearing "Resist" played the same way again. Or heck, play "The Trees" as an acoustic song with "Nobody's Hero". Then come back in with the full band with "Closer To The Heart".

And any more 80's songs would be nice, especially songs like "Afterimage" or "Kid Gloves", which got swapped on the two halves of the GUP tour while the other 6 GUP songs got full-tour performances.

-Marc.

[Lucien]

Double Agent would be wonderful to hear. 

[King Postwhore]

Double Agent would be wonderful to hear. 

And it was wonderful to hear 3 times on the Counterparts tour.

[nicmos]

I just want them to play Emotion Detector, the one song from my favorite album of theirs (Power Windows) that they haven't played. In fact, during the past like 2 tours, they've played EVERY single song off that album EXCEPT Emotion Detector, which wasn't played on Power Windows' promotional tour either.

My memory could be faulty, but I seem to recall an interview not long after that tour where they were reflecting on Power Windows, and they were recognizing it as a very strong album, but the consensus was that ED was the one track that they felt didn't turn out as strong as the rest of the pack.

I like it to, and when the album was new, it was absolutely one of my favorites.  (I think that's why I remember the interview so well...because it was so disappointing to read at the time.)   But to be honest, the song hasn't aged very well.   Today it is probably my least favorite from the album.

I agree with it being the weakest.  But weakest on Power Windows isn't too shabby.  I can hear the guitar solo in my head as I type this.  It's a great one.  That whole album is so majestic.  (I know that sounds corny, but that's the best way I can put it.)

[rickhawk80]

I'm thinking that it will just be a recycling of things they haven't played in awhile.   It's hard to believe, but I don't think they've played The Trees in over a decade.

They played "The Trees" throughout the second US leg of the "Snakes and Arrows" tour in 2008.  I saw it live in Oklahoma City.   

[KevShmev]

I guess we have a year of speculation to look forward to, of fans saying, "Maybe they will play this song," about a song Geddy Lee has no chance of singing well live anymore, only for the set list to surface and not see any of those songs anywhere near it.

[jammindude]

I'm thinking that it will just be a recycling of things they haven't played in awhile.   It's hard to believe, but I don't think they've played The Trees in over a decade.

They played "The Trees" throughout the second US leg of the "Snakes and Arrows" tour in 2008.  I saw it live in Oklahoma City.   

My bad.  I guess it just seems like forever.

I seem to remember some website that actually keeps track of how long it's been since they've played every song in their catalog?  Where's that when you need it?

[Anguyen92]

Setlist.fm is pretty much the closest thing for me.  The site tracks the years that the songs have been played.