Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst

[TAC]

Yeah, I think they're charging $80 because Kingshmegland was there!

[Pols Voice]

I've always really liked Presto. It has some very good songwriting and a variety of sounds. It's a good balance between their keyboard-oriented and heavier styles.

[King Postwhore]

Yeah, I think they're charging $80 because Kingshmegland was there!

Pffftt!!  My fee is higher!!

[Orbert]

I just got Presto for Christmas. Anything I should listen to in particular when I play it?

Just play it straight through the first time.  Then again.  Seriously.

There are some great songs on Presto and I like it overall, but I've always found it better to let a work speak for itself.  If someone has told me specifically about certain songs, I find it distracting to sit there thinking "Okay, it's after this one" or later think "Hmm, not what I expected" because then I don't listen to what's playing at the moment.

[TAC]

I just got Presto for Christmas. Anything I should listen to in particular when I play it?

Just play it straight through the first time.  Then again.  Seriously.

There are some great songs on Presto and I like it overall, but I've always found it better to let a work speak for itself.  If someone has told me specifically about certain songs, I find it distracting to sit there thinking "Okay, it's after this one" or later think "Hmm, not what I expected" because then I don't listen to what's playing at the moment.

I agree, especially on Presto.

I am as big of critic on post Moving Pictures Rush as there is, but I find Presto very endearing for some reason.

[Lowdz]

I prefer RTB to Presto. Nothing really stood out and there are several poor tracks.

[Lowdz]

I'm reading Neil Peart's healing book. Has any of you read it?

Yeah. I enjoyed it. Would love to retrace the journey (the physical one, not the emotional one, obviously). I wanted to see the places he went.

[The Letter M]

So I was looking at Rush's Discography and I saw that Different Stages had not only tons of live material, but the entirety of 2112. Was it discontinued or something? I looked it up on Amazon and it was like $80 new. What's the deal-io?

That sounds pricey to me.  I'm not sure if it was discontinued.  I was at that show for the recording of 2112.  6th row.  One of the best shows I've ever saw.

Funny thing about that show and the recording of "2112" on Different Stages - a few months ago when I was compiling my Rush Tours Complete Live Series, I picked the "Great Woods & Summer Skies" SBD bootleg to represent the TFE tour, and there's a gaff that Neil does near the end of "2112 VII. Grand Finale". He misses the change and accidentally continues the 6/8 groove when Geddy and Alex start the ascending quarter note chords.

Apparently, they 'fixed' it on the DS release, because I've A/B'd the two recordings and they either subbed in a different show for just that portion, or they sampled the first few notes of the repeat of that same section. Either way, I did the same fix on my copy of GW&SS just so it sounds right! Too bad I can't fix the intro to "Freewill" where Alex totally misses the first 2 beats! Whoops!

Aside from those two mistakes, the band was on FIRE that night, and it's a great show and one of my favorite bootlegs!

-Marc.

[Big Hath]

GW&SS is indeed awesome.  Hey Marc, don't they also have a little flub somewhere in "Force 10" on that bootleg?  I'm remembering some kind of issue they had with that song for some reason.


Weird to think that at it's release, Rush probably thought Different Stages might be their last ever album, especially since Peart considered himself retired after his personal tragedies.

[King Postwhore]

Marc, they were having a blast and being in the 6th row, I got to see all the little faces and joke and smiles.  they were really into it that night and it showed.

[The Letter M]

GW&SS is indeed awesome.  Hey Marc, don't they also have a little flub somewhere in "Force 10" on that bootleg?  I'm remembering some kind of issue they had with that song for some reason.


Weird to think that at it's release, Rush probably thought Different Stages might be their last ever album, especially since Peart considered himself retired after his personal tragedies.

Maybe? It was near the end of the show at that point but I'll have to listen again to hear what it was, if anything.

Marc, they were having a blast and being in the 6th row, I got to see all the little faces and joke and smiles.  they were really into it that night and it showed.

I bet! Wasn't it like the 8th to last show of the tour? I'm sure they were just being all sorts of silly and funny by the end of that tour, especially being their first Evening With!

-Marc.

[Ben_Jamin]

New Mexico has got to be in the tour.

[The Letter M]

Hey guys, so I made this *VERY* Difficult Word-Ladder on Sporcle, and I was wondering if you guys would play it and help me fix anything I missed! Already had a few suggestions from one user, so I'd like it if you guys could help me along! Thanks and GOOD LUCK!

https://www.sporcle.com/games/MarkyMarc413/rush-word-ladder-phase-4

-Marc.

[Unlegit]

Don't really know what that is, but it sounds interesting. I'm in!

[Cedar redaC]

Geddy Lee is going to be on How I Met Your Mother. I've never really followed the show, but I'm sure it will be awesome.

[Ben_Jamin]

Geddy Lee is going to be on How I Met Your Mother. I've never really followed the show, but I'm sure it will be awesome.

Its the last Robin Sparkles themed episode, shes canadian. Its cool to see the biggest band on that show, really cool its a robin episods too.

[fadetoblackdude7]

This is fantastic news, as it's my favorite current tv show.

Let's go to the mall.....TODAY!!

[King Postwhore]

Geddy Lee is going to be on How I Met Your Mother. I've never really followed the show, but I'm sure it will be awesome.

That's so cool.  I love that show.

[ytserush]

So I was looking at Rush's Discography and I saw that Different Stages had not only tons of live material, but the entirety of 2112. Was it discontinued or something? I looked it up on Amazon and it was like $80 new. What's the deal-io?

That sounds pricey to me.  I'm not sure if it was discontinued.  I was at that show for the recording of 2112.  6th row.  One of the best shows I've ever saw.

I've read in a few places that Different Stages is now out of print (as are Geddy and Alex's solo albums although some of you may not shed a tear over that) If true it might be the first Rush album to go that way. (I suppose it's possible Vapor Trails and Feedback are out of print, but I really don't know as I haven't checked.)

[snowdog]

as well as "Chain Lightning" with it's backwards-recorded guitar solo!

I never knew that.  Is that what has prevented that song from being played live?  I've always felt it was on of the best tracks on the record.

[KevShmev]

Looking at amazon, Different Stages is not available right now to buy as a physical copy (unless you want to pay an arm and a leg to an individual seller), but you can still buy the individual tracks from amazon for 99 cents each.  I suspect a lot of CDs over time will suffer the same treatment, as purchases of physical copies continue to plummet.

I've always thought Chain Lightning was one of the best songs on Presto (along with The Pass and Available Light), but I get why it has never been played live. 

[wasteland]

Geddy Lee is going to be on How I Met Your Mother. I've never really followed the show, but I'm sure it will be awesome.

I follow it and...

[TAC]

I've always thought Chain Lightning was one of the best songs on Presto (along with The Pass and Available Light), but I get why it has never been played live.

Kev, I would like to point out that we are in agreement (how about that?) on Chain Lightning. And Available Light for that matter. I think Available Light is criminally underrated. Both are great songs.

But sorry, I still do not get the love for The Pass.

[The Letter M]

as well as "Chain Lightning" with it's backwards-recorded guitar solo!

I never knew that.  Is that what has prevented that song from being played live?  I've always felt it was on of the best tracks on the record.

Perhaps? Well, what the solo was, Alex recorded the solo played forward, then played that back in reverse. Then he learned the melody in reverse, recorded THAT, then played THAT backwards for the final solo, resulting in the original solo (note-wise), but an unusual sound about it where the notes have a reversed-decay effect.

-Marc.

[King Postwhore]

So I was looking at Rush's Discography and I saw that Different Stages had not only tons of live material, but the entirety of 2112. Was it discontinued or something? I looked it up on Amazon and it was like $80 new. What's the deal-io?

That sounds pricey to me.  I'm not sure if it was discontinued.  I was at that show for the recording of 2112.  6th row.  One of the best shows I've ever saw.

It's funny but when you own all the albums you never check to see if they are out of date.  But seeing kids get into Rush and then reading it just seems weird.

I've read in a few places that Different Stages is now out of print (as are Geddy and Alex's solo albums although some of you may not shed a tear over that) If true it might be the first Rush album to go that way. (I suppose it's possible Vapor Trails and Feedback are out of print, but I really don't know as I haven't checked.)

[cyberdrummer]

Just to let you all know, there's a few preliminary polls running now, ahead of the main survivor starting on Monday.

[fadetoblackdude7]

New live DVD comes on May 21:

https://blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=184741

[TAC]

Wow, it was recorded three months after DT's Luna Park shows and could actually be released before DT?

[fadetoblackdude7]

Yeah that's strange.....it says that Dallas will be the main footage, but I hope they can find it in their hearts to put Middletown Dreams in there.

[The Letter M]

My hopes are that the Dallas show will be the main concert on the DVD, and the non-Dallas songs played in Phoenix will be bonus footage as part of the extras of the DVD. For a CD release, well I posted a few pages back what I hope about that, and hope that it's a SWEET 3 CD release with ALL 29 songs! Bonus points if they toss on "Working Man" and "Limelight" from other shows prior to Phoenix/Dallas.

-Marc.

[KevShmev]

"Clockwork Angels Live" is really the best title for it they could come up with?  That's as unimaginative as the "Snakes and Arrows Live" one.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Yeah Rush doesn't really get down on creative live album titles.....they usually just name them after the tour or city.

[TAC]

They did do well with All The World's A Stage, Exit Stage Left, and A Show Of Hands.

[The Letter M]

They did do well with All The World's A Stage, Exit Stage Left, and A Show Of Hands.

And even Different Stages was okay, which  brought back the trend of using "Stage" as part of the live album name that was dropped with ASOH.

Rush In Rio was alright, but since then, they've been lacking. And at least with S&A Live and the upcoming CA Live sets, they really can be called that, given the amount of material from those albums being performed live.

-Marc.

[Orbert]

Holy Crap! 

I never realized the pun on the word "stage" in Different Stages.  There was live material from two different stages in their career, but I never put it together with "stage" as in "stage left".

Thank you, Marc