Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst

[ytserush]

Man, I am not understanding the pricing on this Permanent Waves 40th set. Of all of the Super Deluxe sets thus far, this one is the least impressive to me yet is somehow way more expensive than any of the others were. As of now, I can only see myself getting the vinyl and CD sets separately. That alone will run about $80. The Super Deluxe is going for $180. There just is not an extra $100 of worth there, especially with no Blu-ray or DVD or anything.

Just getting the Compact Disc set just like the others. Everything I need is on it. I'm just glad some work was put in this time and we didn't end of with St. Louis 1980 as the live show.

Have originals of most of the replica stuff from the box although I suppose the photo book would be cool. It will be $18 or $20 well spent.

[pg1067]

Man, I am not understanding the pricing on this Permanent Waves 40th set. Of all of the Super Deluxe sets thus far, this one is the least impressive to me yet is somehow way more expensive than any of the others were. As of now, I can only see myself getting the vinyl and CD sets separately. That alone will run about $80. The Super Deluxe is going for $180. There just is not an extra $100 of worth there, especially with no Blu-ray or DVD or anything.

For the, the problem is that they insist on selling the "super deluxe" version with both CDs and vinyl.  I have no use for vinyl.  Yes, there's a CD-only version, but it lacks most of the goodies.  While I want the goodies, I don't want them badly enough to shell out $180 and get a bunch of (for me) useless vinyl records.

[Podaar]

This is pretty cool, me thinks.

Members of Anthrax, Suicidal Tendencies and Testament cover Rush while in quarantine

[TAC]

This is pretty cool, me thinks.

Members of Anthrax, Suicidal Tendencies and Testament cover Rush while in quarantine

I saw that, and yes, that is awesome.


Love Charlie's shirt.

[ytserush]

Man, I am not understanding the pricing on this Permanent Waves 40th set. Of all of the Super Deluxe sets thus far, this one is the least impressive to me yet is somehow way more expensive than any of the others were. As of now, I can only see myself getting the vinyl and CD sets separately. That alone will run about $80. The Super Deluxe is going for $180. There just is not an extra $100 of worth there, especially with no Blu-ray or DVD or anything.

For the, the problem is that they insist on selling the "super deluxe" version with both CDs and vinyl.  I have no use for vinyl.  Yes, there's a CD-only version, but it lacks most of the goodies.  While I want the goodies, I don't want them badly enough to shell out $180 and get a bunch of (for me) useless vinyl records.

Most new vinyl is way over-the-top expensive.

[SoundscapeMN]

You Learn Something new everyday.

"Lunatic Fringe" is a great tune by the band Red Rider (which I always associate with the 80's movie "Vision Quest") who included original Rush Vocalist/Bassist Jeff Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jones_(musician)

Jones performed with Alex Lifeson and John Rutsey in the first incarnation of Rush, serving as the primary singer and bassist in the summer of 1968.[1] He was replaced by Geddy Lee in September 1968 before their second performance, after wanting to go to a party.[

[Orbert]

Whoa, I did not know that, either.

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

You Learn Something new everyday.

"Lunatic Fringe" is a great tune by the band Red Rider (which I always associate with the 80's movie "Vision Quest") who included original Rush Vocalist/Bassist Jeff Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jones_(musician)

Jones performed with Alex Lifeson and John Rutsey in the first incarnation of Rush, serving as the primary singer and bassist in the summer of 1968.[1] He was replaced by Geddy Lee in September 1968 before their second performance, after wanting to go to a party.[

I don't remember if it was this thread, but I posted about this some time ago. I don't remember how the topic came up.....is there a Red Rider thread? 

[ReaperKK]

You Learn Something new everyday.

"Lunatic Fringe" is a great tune by the band Red Rider (which I always associate with the 80's movie "Vision Quest") who included original Rush Vocalist/Bassist Jeff Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jones_(musician)

Jones performed with Alex Lifeson and John Rutsey in the first incarnation of Rush, serving as the primary singer and bassist in the summer of 1968.[1] He was replaced by Geddy Lee in September 1968 before their second performance, after wanting to go to a party.[

I remember hearing something about Geddy being fired or something at the start of the band but I always thought it was a joke.

[HOF]

Yeah, I just read about this recently in that great big tour book. Geddy was pushed out briefly by Ray Daniels (believe it or not) after they hired him as their manager around 1968-69. They asked him to come back a few months later.

[Cool Chris]

Wait. Somewhere there is a dude walking around whose life story is "I was in Rush at the beginning, but skipped a gig so I could go to a party, then they replaced me?" 

[Orbert]

Yeah, but later he was in a one-hit wonder, so it's all good.

[Cool Chris]

I alwayd Lunatic Fringe, but never knew anything about it, other than the name of the band. And I never saw Vision Quest.

That one post was a font of information for me.

[jammindude]

I alwayd Lunatic Fringe, but never knew anything about it, other than the name of the band. And I never saw Vision Quest.

That one post was a font of information for me.

Another tidbit.   Red Rider was fronted by Tom Cochran.   Singer of "Life is a Highway"

[HOF]

You Learn Something new everyday.

"Lunatic Fringe" is a great tune by the band Red Rider (which I always associate with the 80's movie "Vision Quest") who included original Rush Vocalist/Bassist Jeff Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jones_(musician)

Jones performed with Alex Lifeson and John Rutsey in the first incarnation of Rush, serving as the primary singer and bassist in the summer of 1968.[1] He was replaced by Geddy Lee in September 1968 before their second performance, after wanting to go to a party.[

So I’ve heard this song before I’m pretty sure, or am I just confusing it with something by Pink Floyd?

[Orbert]

I alwayd Lunatic Fringe, but never knew anything about it, other than the name of the band. And I never saw Vision Quest.

That one post was a font of information for me.

Another tidbit.   Red Rider was fronted by Tom Cochran.   Singer of "Life is a Highway"

Somehow the band is now officially Tom Cochran's Red Rider or something very much like that.  The song "Lunatic Fringe" came on my radio one time, and the name of the band had to scroll for a while for the whole thing to display.  It reminded me of Tony Iommi's Black Sabbath, and not in a good way.  I always figure the band name is the recognizable part.  Putting your own name on there is just ego.

Also, the only "Life is a Highway" I know was by Sheryl Crow.  Or are you saying hers is a cover and he did the original?

[King Postwhore]

Her's is a cover.  His was a big hit even here in America.  It was on MTV non stop.

[contest_sanity]

Tom Cochrane is also Canadian. He and Alex have played together on several occasions, with Alex even appearing on one of his later releases.

Yeah, "Life Is A Highway" was an unavoidable hit in the early 90s, radio and MTV. Great song!

Here's them playing "All Along The Watchtower" back in 94: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7LT9JG2ly0

[KevShmev]

Another tidbit.   Red Rider was fronted by Tom Cochran.   Singer of "Life is a Highway"

Damn, I guess we do learn something new every day.  I have known Lunatic Fringe for 30 years and never made that connection.

[HOF]

Tom Cochrane is also Canadian. He and Alex have played together on several occasions, with Alex even appearing on one of his later releases.

Yeah, "Life Is A Highway" was an unavoidable hit in the early 90s, radio and MTV. Great song!

Here's them playing "All Along The Watchtower" back in 94: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7LT9JG2ly0

Here is Cochrane presenting/inducting Rush into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame (classic Neil and Alex moments here):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=glEaGtwoorg

[Stadler]

Rascal Flatts also did a cover of "Life Is A Highway" for one of the Pixar movies ("Cars" I think, but don't quote me.)

[King Postwhore]

Rascal Flatts also did a cover of "Life Is A Highway" for one of the Pixar movies ("Cars" I think, but don't quote me.)

It charted as well. 

[pg1067]

You Learn Something new everyday.

"Lunatic Fringe" is a great tune by the band Red Rider (which I always associate with the 80's movie "Vision Quest") who included original Rush Vocalist/Bassist Jeff Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jones_(musician)

Jones performed with Alex Lifeson and John Rutsey in the first incarnation of Rush, serving as the primary singer and bassist in the summer of 1968.[1] He was replaced by Geddy Lee in September 1968 before their second performance, after wanting to go to a party.[

While I realize that the band that eventually became Rush started out with Alex on guitars, Rutsey on drums and Jeff Jones on bass, the band may or may not have been called "Rush" at that point, and Jones only lasted a few weeks.  I therefore have a real problem regarding to him as "the original Rush vocalist/bassist."

[ytserush]

You Learn Something new everyday.

"Lunatic Fringe" is a great tune by the band Red Rider (which I always associate with the 80's movie "Vision Quest") who included original Rush Vocalist/Bassist Jeff Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jones_(musician)

Jones performed with Alex Lifeson and John Rutsey in the first incarnation of Rush, serving as the primary singer and bassist in the summer of 1968.[1] He was replaced by Geddy Lee in September 1968 before their second performance, after wanting to go to a party.[

Thought all of this was common knowledge but maybe not.

[ytserush]

I alwayd Lunatic Fringe, but never knew anything about it, other than the name of the band. And I never saw Vision Quest.

That one post was a font of information for me.

Never saw that movie either, but I do have the CD soundtrack primarily for that song.

[ytserush]

You Learn Something new everyday.

"Lunatic Fringe" is a great tune by the band Red Rider (which I always associate with the 80's movie "Vision Quest") who included original Rush Vocalist/Bassist Jeff Jones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jones_(musician)

Jones performed with Alex Lifeson and John Rutsey in the first incarnation of Rush, serving as the primary singer and bassist in the summer of 1968.[1] He was replaced by Geddy Lee in September 1968 before their second performance, after wanting to go to a party.[

While I realize that the band that eventually became Rush started out with Alex on guitars, Rutsey on drums and Jeff Jones on bass, the band may or may not have been called "Rush" at that point, and Jones only lasted a few weeks.  I therefore have a real problem regarding to him as "the original Rush vocalist/bassist."

I don't have a problem with it but I don't assign it a lot of significance to it other than it being a historical footnote.

Geddy married the sister of of Lindy Young who was in the band for a while as well.

They were just kids in a band and nobody had any idea how it would turn out.

[pg1067]

Rush (or Rush's business manager) is now selling a bound collection of all of the old Backstage Club newsletters.

https://www.rushbackstage.com/product/6XAMRU169/rush-backstage-club-newsletters?cp=102112_102150

$40 for 72 pages of material seems pretty steep

Right before I read about this, I pulled out all of my original newsletters.  I have them from roughly GUP through Presto (the one that was released in advance of GUP refers to a new song called "Red Section A."   

Several of the newsletters had Q&A from Neil, and my god was that man snarky!  Unfortunately, while the first blip about the lyrics to Freewill is in one of them, the follow up is not in any of the newsletters that I have, so it may have come from somewhere else (I think I posted a link several pages back).  I may scan and upload a few of these, although I suspect they're readily available elsewhere on the interweb.

[Setlist Scotty]

I may scan and upload a few of these, although I suspect they're readily available elsewhere on the interweb.

Don't bother. As you guessed, they are available, altho they were put up just days before the announcement of that book. YOu can check them out here:
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/rush/rbc-archives.php

[pg1067]

I may scan and upload a few of these, although I suspect they're readily available elsewhere on the interweb.

Don't bother. As you guessed, they are available, altho they were put up just days before the announcement of that book. YOu can check them out here:
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/rush/rbc-archives.php

Yup.  That's where I expected they'd be.  I have them from Dec. 1983 through April 1990.  Not sure why I stopped getting them after that.  I wonder if anything ever came of the "pen pals" section in some of them.

[ytserush]

Rush (or Rush's business manager) is now selling a bound collection of all of the old Backstage Club newsletters.

https://www.rushbackstage.com/product/6XAMRU169/rush-backstage-club-newsletters?cp=102112_102150

$40 for 72 pages of material seems pretty steep

Right before I read about this, I pulled out all of my original newsletters.  I have them from roughly GUP through Presto (the one that was released in advance of GUP refers to a new song called "Red Section A."   

Several of the newsletters had Q&A from Neil, and my god was that man snarky!  Unfortunately, while the first blip about the lyrics to Freewill is in one of them, the follow up is not in any of the newsletters that I have, so it may have come from somewhere else (I think I posted a link several pages back).  I may scan and upload a few of these, although I suspect they're readily available elsewhere on the interweb.

I'd get these (even though I have many of the originals anyway) but I got the impression it's not all of them so if that's the case I'm out. I'd want them if it was everything, but that does not appear to be the case.

[romdrums]

Wait. Somewhere there is a dude walking around whose life story is "I was in Rush at the beginning, but skipped a gig so I could go to a party, then they replaced me?"

That just reminded me that there was once a guy on mp.com whose screen name was JohnRutseyNoJob.   

[pg1067]

Rush (or Rush's business manager) is now selling a bound collection of all of the old Backstage Club newsletters.

https://www.rushbackstage.com/product/6XAMRU169/rush-backstage-club-newsletters?cp=102112_102150

$40 for 72 pages of material seems pretty steep

Right before I read about this, I pulled out all of my original newsletters.  I have them from roughly GUP through Presto (the one that was released in advance of GUP refers to a new song called "Red Section A."   

Several of the newsletters had Q&A from Neil, and my god was that man snarky!  Unfortunately, while the first blip about the lyrics to Freewill is in one of them, the follow up is not in any of the newsletters that I have, so it may have come from somewhere else (I think I posted a link several pages back).  I may scan and upload a few of these, although I suspect they're readily available elsewhere on the interweb.

I'd get these (even though I have many of the originals anyway) but I got the impression it's not all of them so if that's the case I'm out. I'd want them if it was everything, but that does not appear to be the case.

You're right:

"Over the years, there were over thirty newsletters released, some were full of timelines from Neil, some contained tentative upcoming tour dates, and some were merely merchandise catalogues. We have reprinted and bound the most meaningful of these newsletters in a 9” X 12”, 72-page folio."

I suspect, however, that the ones that aren't included are those that are only merch catalogs.

[Fritzinger]

Guys, I usually never do this, but this time I just have to:
I follow a pretty nice FB page voting for the "greatest album of all time" - while the original voting is already done (Dark Side Of The Moon won), the admin made a new voting to find the "greatest album of the 2010s".

And Clockwork Angels is about to be kicked out and I cannot accept that 

https://www.facebook.com/greatestalbumofalltime/posts/2684886278290733

[ytserush]

Rush (or Rush's business manager) is now selling a bound collection of all of the old Backstage Club newsletters.

https://www.rushbackstage.com/product/6XAMRU169/rush-backstage-club-newsletters?cp=102112_102150

$40 for 72 pages of material seems pretty steep

Right before I read about this, I pulled out all of my original newsletters.  I have them from roughly GUP through Presto (the one that was released in advance of GUP refers to a new song called "Red Section A."   

Several of the newsletters had Q&A from Neil, and my god was that man snarky!  Unfortunately, while the first blip about the lyrics to Freewill is in one of them, the follow up is not in any of the newsletters that I have, so it may have come from somewhere else (I think I posted a link several pages back).  I may scan and upload a few of these, although I suspect they're readily available elsewhere on the interweb.

I'd get these (even though I have many of the originals anyway) but I got the impression it's not all of them so if that's the case I'm out. I'd want them if it was everything, but that does not appear to be the case.

You're right:

"Over the years, there were over thirty newsletters released, some were full of timelines from Neil, some contained tentative upcoming tour dates, and some were merely merchandise catalogues. We have reprinted and bound the most meaningful of these newsletters in a 9” X 12”, 72-page folio."

I suspect, however, that the ones that aren't included are those that are only merch catalogs.

Worth considering I suppose. Might be nice to have them bound in one place.

[WildRanger]

What's your favorite guitar riff and solo by Lifeson?

My picks would be: riff - Spirit of the Radio; solo - La Villa Strangiato