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What are the 3 best songs on Clockwork Angels?

Caravan
71 (12.2%)
BU2B
46 (7.9%)
Clockwork Angels
85 (14.6%)
The Anarchist
44 (7.6%)
Carnies
19 (3.3%)
Halo Effect
11 (1.9%)
Seven Cities of Gold
21 (3.6%)
The Wreckers
46 (7.9%)
Headlong Flight
87 (14.9%)
BU2B2
4 (0.7%)
Wish Them Well
16 (2.7%)
The Garden
132 (22.7%)

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Re: Rush
« Reply #3255 on: May 11, 2018, 11:26:05 AM »
:lol

Power Windows is love. Power Windows is life.

Power Windows is...ummm....ummm....better than Hold Your Fire....

What are the five worst Rush albums of all time?

Power Windows... Counterparts, Grace Under Pressure, Hold Your Fire and Roll the Bones.


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If I'm going to fight over how bad some of Rush's stinkier albums are, I'm going to need to be pretty drunk, which means dawn will NOT work for me.   :lol :lol
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3256 on: May 11, 2018, 11:28:11 AM »
Then I'm Japanese and quietly attack in the morning! :lol
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3257 on: May 11, 2018, 11:47:37 AM »
Rush doesn't have any stinky albums, so it would be a very short discussion. :)

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3258 on: May 11, 2018, 01:55:13 PM »
Rush doesn't have any stinky albums, so it would be a very short discussion. :)

Yes, very short:  p/g and T4E.

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« Reply #3259 on: May 11, 2018, 03:52:53 PM »
Rush doesn't have any stinky albums, so it would be a very short discussion. :)

And RtB and HYF and Counterparts....
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3260 on: May 11, 2018, 05:04:28 PM »
No way - to both of you. :)  But you're right, we shouldn't argue about it. I'll just feel sorry for you, since you're so clearly missing out... ;)

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« Reply #3261 on: May 11, 2018, 05:26:48 PM »
No way - to both of you. :)  But you're right, we shouldn't argue about it. I'll just feel sorry for you, since you're so clearly missing out... ;)

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« Reply #3262 on: May 11, 2018, 07:57:33 PM »
No way - to both of you. :)  But you're right, we shouldn't argue about it. I'll just feel sorry for you, since you're so clearly missing out... ;)

"Grace Under Pressure:  Causing fans to miss out for nearly 35 years!"

That would be Signals.  That was a polarizing album with the heavy handed use of keyboards.  I remember a lot of friends did not like the direction.
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3263 on: May 12, 2018, 06:13:45 AM »
Yes, it definitely would be Signals, only reinforced with GUP. Both albums have aged very well. Well, 5 of the 8 tracks on GUP have.
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3264 on: May 12, 2018, 06:20:22 AM »
A Farewell To Kings and T4E are definitely stinkers. Presto and HYF aren't gems either...

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« Reply #3265 on: May 12, 2018, 06:21:57 AM »
GUP was a heavy guitar album and was a reaction to Signals.  They had Hugh Padgham (of The Police fame) set as the producer and he pulled out right before hitting the studio.
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« Reply #3266 on: May 12, 2018, 06:27:29 AM »
A Farewell To Kings and T4E are definitely stinkers. Presto and HYF aren't gems either...

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3267 on: May 12, 2018, 06:29:32 AM »
A Farewell To Kings and T4E are definitely stinkers. Presto and HYF aren't gems either...

Fight me. At dawn! Drunk!  :lol

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3268 on: May 12, 2018, 06:30:53 AM »
A Farewell to Kings - boring
Xanadu - boring and too long
Closer to the Heart - annoying
Cinderella Man - boring
Madrigal - boring
Cygnus - boring

I know it's a hot take. Just my opinion.  :lol Signals and GUP are far more enjoyable albums imo. But I love synths...
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3269 on: May 12, 2018, 06:36:30 AM »
A Farewell to Kings - boring
Xanadu - boring and too long
Closer to the Heart - annoying
Cinderella Man - boring
Madrigal - boring
Cygnus - boring

I know it's a hot take. Just my opinion.  :lol 


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« Reply #3270 on: May 12, 2018, 06:39:27 AM »
I don't know if I should



or



or

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3271 on: May 12, 2018, 06:48:33 AM »
 :rollin
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3272 on: May 12, 2018, 06:50:12 AM »
You told us to fight you, I think this is our method of combat  :lol
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3273 on: May 12, 2018, 07:04:12 AM »
A Farewell to Kings - boring
Xanadu - boring and too long
Closer to the Heart - annoying
Cinderella Man - boring
Madrigal - boring
Cygnus - boring

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« Reply #3274 on: May 12, 2018, 07:20:22 AM »
A Farewell to Kings - boring
Xanadu - boring and too long
Closer to the Heart - annoying
Cinderella Man - boring
Madrigal - boring
Cygnus - boring



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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3275 on: May 12, 2018, 08:27:34 AM »
I was never too crazy about A Farewell to kings, but I wouldn't go that far.  :lol

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« Reply #3276 on: May 12, 2018, 11:17:30 AM »
He's just as wrong as Stadler and pgIpretendnottolikep/gbutit'stherealreasonformyusername1067 are.  :)

Perhaps one day he'll see the error of his ways.

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3277 on: May 12, 2018, 11:28:24 AM »
Am not! Will not!   :biggrin:
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3278 on: May 12, 2018, 11:33:28 AM »
I'm not a religious person, but maybe I'll have a friend light a candle and say a little prayer for you that you'll one day allow the glory of Cygnus into your heart...

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« Reply #3279 on: May 12, 2018, 12:14:30 PM »
I already have the glory of Cygnus in my heart, and its name is Hemispheres.  :neverusethis:
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« Reply #3280 on: May 12, 2018, 12:36:18 PM »
Let's face the REAL truth here - ALL Rush albums are boring/bad*, but we still love them all anyway. Maybe WE are boring people?  :lol


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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3281 on: May 12, 2018, 12:52:56 PM »
A Farewell to Kings - boring
Xanadu - boring and too long
Closer to the Heart - annoying
Cinderella Man - boring
Madrigal - boring
Cygnus - boring

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3282 on: May 14, 2018, 06:43:58 AM »
GUP was a heavy guitar album and was a reaction to Signals.  They had Hugh Padgham (of The Police fame) set as the producer and he pulled out right before hitting the studio.

And that's why it misses for me.  It was SUPPOSED to be a "heavy guitar album" but rather than channel the "Jimmy Page" of most of the rest of the catalogue, he channeled "Andy Summers".   Andy Summers is a lot of things, most of them great, but "heavy guitar" is not one of them.   Plus, those drums sounds... ack. 

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« Reply #3283 on: May 14, 2018, 06:48:49 AM »
GUP was a heavy guitar album and was a reaction to Signals.  They had Hugh Padgham (of The Police fame) set as the producer and he pulled out right before hitting the studio.

And that's why it misses for me.  It was SUPPOSED to be a "heavy guitar album" but rather than channel the "Jimmy Page" of most of the rest of the catalogue, he channeled "Andy Summers".   Andy Summers is a lot of things, most of them great, but "heavy guitar" is not one of them.   Plus, those drums sounds... ack.

I would say you did a disservice to yourself.  This wasn't 1974 Alex,  This was 1984 Alex and you should have known the influences of that time.
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3284 on: May 14, 2018, 07:44:48 AM »
GUP was a heavy guitar album and was a reaction to Signals.  They had Hugh Padgham (of The Police fame) set as the producer and he pulled out right before hitting the studio.

And that's why it misses for me.  It was SUPPOSED to be a "heavy guitar album" but rather than channel the "Jimmy Page" of most of the rest of the catalogue, he channeled "Andy Summers".   Andy Summers is a lot of things, most of them great, but "heavy guitar" is not one of them.   Plus, those drums sounds... ack.

I would say you did a disservice to yourself.  This wasn't 1974 Alex,  This was 1984 Alex and you should have known the influences of that time.

I wouldn't argue that; oddly I love - I mean, "Top Five Or So Rush Albums Ever" love - the albums around it (Signals and Power Windows).   I don't know the best analogy, except maybe food:   Alex's guitar playing at that time was like garlic; in a spaghetti sauce, it's AWESOME (Signals), and on a pizza it's AWESOME (Power Windows), but on breakfast cereal, it's not (p/g).   My biggest beef with p/g is not Alex, it's Neil.   That drum sound.    The best example is the fill on "Red Sector A" right before Geddy sings "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..."; that should be an epic, for-the-ages Neil Peart drum fill - like the roll at the start of Subdivisions, textured, nuanced, evocative - and instead it sounds like Naked Eyes, "Always Something There To Remind Me".   If Rush was Dream Theater, instead of playing "Peruvian Skies" and interpolating "Have A Cigar" and "Enter Sandman", or playing "Surrounded" and interpolating "Mother" and "Sugar Mice", they'd play "Red Sector A" and interpolate "Always Something There To Remind Me".

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« Reply #3285 on: May 14, 2018, 07:46:55 AM »
I always thought that Alex's guitars around this time sounded like he was trying to be Andy Summers.  Now I know why.

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« Reply #3286 on: May 14, 2018, 08:58:13 AM »
GUP was a heavy guitar album and was a reaction to Signals.  They had Hugh Padgham (of The Police fame) set as the producer and he pulled out right before hitting the studio.

And that's why it misses for me.  It was SUPPOSED to be a "heavy guitar album" but rather than channel the "Jimmy Page" of most of the rest of the catalogue, he channeled "Andy Summers".   Andy Summers is a lot of things, most of them great, but "heavy guitar" is not one of them.   Plus, those drums sounds... ack.

I would say you did a disservice to yourself.  This wasn't 1974 Alex,  This was 1984 Alex and you should have known the influences of that time.

I wouldn't argue that; oddly I love - I mean, "Top Five Or So Rush Albums Ever" love - the albums around it (Signals and Power Windows).   I don't know the best analogy, except maybe food:   Alex's guitar playing at that time was like garlic; in a spaghetti sauce, it's AWESOME (Signals), and on a pizza it's AWESOME (Power Windows), but on breakfast cereal, it's not (p/g).   My biggest beef with p/g is not Alex, it's Neil.   That drum sound.    The best example is the fill on "Red Sector A" right before Geddy sings "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..."; that should be an epic, for-the-ages Neil Peart drum fill - like the roll at the start of Subdivisions, textured, nuanced, evocative - and instead it sounds like Naked Eyes, "Always Something There To Remind Me".   If Rush was Dream Theater, instead of playing "Peruvian Skies" and interpolating "Have A Cigar" and "Enter Sandman", or playing "Surrounded" and interpolating "Mother" and "Sugar Mice", they'd play "Red Sector A" and interpolate "Always Something There To Remind Me".

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3287 on: May 14, 2018, 09:00:38 AM »
GUP was a heavy guitar album and was a reaction to Signals.  They had Hugh Padgham (of The Police fame) set as the producer and he pulled out right before hitting the studio.

And that's why it misses for me.  It was SUPPOSED to be a "heavy guitar album" but rather than channel the "Jimmy Page" of most of the rest of the catalogue, he channeled "Andy Summers".   Andy Summers is a lot of things, most of them great, but "heavy guitar" is not one of them.   Plus, those drums sounds... ack.

I would say you did a disservice to yourself.  This wasn't 1974 Alex,  This was 1984 Alex and you should have known the influences of that time.

I wouldn't argue that; oddly I love - I mean, "Top Five Or So Rush Albums Ever" love - the albums around it (Signals and Power Windows).   I don't know the best analogy, except maybe food:   Alex's guitar playing at that time was like garlic; in a spaghetti sauce, it's AWESOME (Signals), and on a pizza it's AWESOME (Power Windows), but on breakfast cereal, it's not (p/g).   My biggest beef with p/g is not Alex, it's Neil.   That drum sound.    The best example is the fill on "Red Sector A" right before Geddy sings "I hear the sound of gunfire at the prison gates..."; that should be an epic, for-the-ages Neil Peart drum fill - like the roll at the start of Subdivisions, textured, nuanced, evocative - and instead it sounds like Naked Eyes, "Always Something There To Remind Me".   If Rush was Dream Theater, instead of playing "Peruvian Skies" and interpolating "Have A Cigar" and "Enter Sandman", or playing "Surrounded" and interpolating "Mother" and "Sugar Mice", they'd play "Red Sector A" and interpolate "Always Something There To Remind Me".

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« Reply #3288 on: May 14, 2018, 09:22:15 AM »
Well this discussion is similar to what we talk about with JP now with the Chocolate layer cake ect.......


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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #3289 on: May 14, 2018, 09:30:48 AM »
I don't know who Andy Summers is, but I really like the way Grace Under Pressure sounds.