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What are the 3 best songs on Clockwork Angels?

Caravan
71 (12.2%)
BU2B
46 (7.9%)
Clockwork Angels
85 (14.6%)
The Anarchist
44 (7.6%)
Carnies
19 (3.3%)
Halo Effect
11 (1.9%)
Seven Cities of Gold
21 (3.6%)
The Wreckers
46 (7.9%)
Headlong Flight
87 (14.9%)
BU2B2
4 (0.7%)
Wish Them Well
16 (2.7%)
The Garden
132 (22.7%)

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #2765 on: November 25, 2017, 12:36:26 PM »
I think Tai Shan is a great song, provided I'm in the mood for it.  It's like the Rivendell of HYF.  It just doesn't fit the right mood for just about any Rush album, so it just seems wrong.  But if you take it on its own, that song really transports me to China, and I love it.  I don't know if I"ve ever seen anyone else say anything positive about it.

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« Reply #2766 on: November 25, 2017, 12:39:07 PM »
I think it's nice. There's one tiny instrumental bit that comes right after the verses and before the chorus and it's very pretty, that's my favorite part.

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« Reply #2767 on: November 26, 2017, 12:50:10 PM »
My least favorite Rush song is probably The Speed of Love, or Neurotica.. I'll give them a pass, because their entire catalogue rocks!
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« Reply #2768 on: November 26, 2017, 07:18:35 PM »
I get why many do not like those songs, and neither is a favorite of mine by any stretch, but both have a lot of good going on.  That guitar lead during The Speed of Love's intro is so dreamy, I can't help but like it.  And the vibe during the verses of Neurotica is really cool; it's just let down by a bland chorus.

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #2769 on: November 26, 2017, 07:23:45 PM »
I love Neurotica.
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« Reply #2770 on: November 26, 2017, 09:17:46 PM »
That's a good list.  My 3 least favorite Rush songs are Face Up, Neurotica, and You Bet Your Life....so obviously I'm not super high on the RtB album.

I used to include The Big Wheel and Heresy on that list as an even "top 5 worst"....but I actually warmed up to those two just a little bit.
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« Reply #2771 on: November 27, 2017, 06:46:21 AM »
Heresy is not a good song.  The Big Wheel is an awesome song.
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #2772 on: November 27, 2017, 06:48:22 AM »
An even better song is Double Agent. Been stuck on my brain for almost a week now. The 'wilderness' part is the best.
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« Reply #2773 on: November 27, 2017, 07:18:28 AM »
An even better song is Double Agent. Been stuck on my brain for almost a week now. The 'wilderness' part is the best.

It was fun seeing them play it live!
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« Reply #2774 on: November 27, 2017, 11:57:57 AM »
I think Tai Shan is a great song, provided I'm in the mood for it.  It's like the Rivendell of HYF.  It just doesn't fit the right mood for just about any Rush album, so it just seems wrong.  But if you take it on its own, that song really transports me to China, and I love it.  I don't know if I"ve ever seen anyone else say anything positive about it.

I’m with you. I love the song and never felt it doesn’t fit on the album. Fits for me.

I never listen to Rivendell though.

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« Reply #2775 on: November 27, 2017, 01:31:12 PM »
I just checked my last.fm and I've listened to over 500 Rush songs since October 25th when I first started. Damn. :)
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« Reply #2776 on: November 27, 2017, 07:03:41 PM »
An even better song is Double Agent. Been stuck on my brain for almost a week now. The 'wilderness' part is the best.

It was fun seeing them play it live!

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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #2777 on: November 27, 2017, 07:37:44 PM »
An even better song is Double Agent. Been stuck on my brain for almost a week now. The 'wilderness' part is the best.

It was fun seeing them play it live!

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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #2778 on: November 28, 2017, 06:33:21 AM »
An even better song is Double Agent. Been stuck on my brain for almost a week now. The 'wilderness' part is the best.

It was fun seeing them play it live!

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« Reply #2779 on: November 28, 2017, 06:40:45 AM »
Did I mention seeing it played live on my 26th birthday? :metal :metal :metal :metal
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« Reply #2780 on: November 28, 2017, 10:31:59 AM »
Love the lyrics to that song!  :tup
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #2781 on: November 28, 2017, 11:31:03 AM »
An even better song is Double Agent. Been stuck on my brain for almost a week now. The 'wilderness' part is the best.

It was fun seeing them play it live!
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #2782 on: November 28, 2017, 11:35:45 AM »
Or Alex doing them.  ;D
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« Reply #2783 on: November 28, 2017, 11:50:08 AM »
Or Alex doing them.  ;D


With the biohazard sign over his face. :lol
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« Reply #2784 on: November 28, 2017, 12:00:38 PM »
An even better song is Double Agent. Been stuck on my brain for almost a week now. The 'wilderness' part is the best.

It was fun seeing them play it live!

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« Reply #2786 on: November 28, 2017, 12:23:24 PM »
Better start throwing stones.    I . . . think Time and Motion is in my top 10 songs from the 90's.

Yeah, but that's a little like saying that Yutaka Fukufuji is in your top 10 list of Japanese ice hockey players.  The pickins are mighty slim.
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« Reply #2787 on: November 28, 2017, 12:52:04 PM »
My least favorite Rush song is. . . .

How about least favorite on each album:

Rush - Need Some Love or Before and After
Fly by Night - Rivendell
Caress of Steel - I Think I'm Going Bald or Panacea
2112 - This is tough, but I'll say Lessons
A Farewell to Kings - Madrigal
Hemispheres - Circumstances (solely by process of elimination)
Permanent Waves - Different Strings (again, process of elimination)
Moving Pictures - Witch Hunt
Signals - The Weapon
Grace Under Pressure - Red Lenses or The Body Electric
Power Windows - Pretty much everything on side 2, but probably Mystic Rhythms if were were forced to choose
Hold Your Fire - Prime Mover or Tai Shan
Presto - Scars or Hand Over Fist
Roll the Bones - Face Up or the title track
Counterparts - This is a tough one because it's a consistently "meh" album.  Nothing really stands out, but I'll say Speed of Love
Test for Echo - Virtuality
Vapor Trails - Sweet Miracle
Snakes and Arrows - Workin' Them Angels or The Larger Bowl
Clockwork Angels - Wish Them Well
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #2788 on: November 28, 2017, 01:55:32 PM »
Rush: Need Some Love
Fly By Night: Best I Can
Caress Of Steel:  I Think I'm Going Bald
2112: Lessons
A Farewell To Kings" Madrigal
Hemispheres:  Can't do it.  Can't even list "The Trees" as the least great song.
Permanent Waves:  Spirit Of Radio
Moving Pictures: Vital Signs
Signals: Chemistry
p/g: Kid Gloves
Power Windows: Emotion Detector
Hold Your Fire:  Tai Shan?  (Not committed to this)
Presto:  Chain Lightning?  (Not committed to this)
Roll The Bones:   Heresy
Counterparts:  Nobody's Hero
Test For Echo:  All of it???  Virtuality
Vapor Trails: Nocturne
Snakes And Arrows:  Spindrift (Not committed to this)
Clockwork Angels: BU2B2 (Not committed to this)


This was WAY harder than "Top 50". 

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« Reply #2789 on: November 28, 2017, 02:04:42 PM »
Rush: Before and After
Fly By Night: Rivendell
Caress of Steel: I Think I'm Going Bald
2112: Lessons
A Farewell To Kings: Madrigal (Cinderella Man is close)
Hemispheres: Circumstances if there's a gun to my head but not a single bad note of music here
Permanent Waves: Freewill
Moving Pictures: Witch Hunt
Signals: Losing It
Grace Under Pressure: Between The Wheels
Power Windows: Middletown Dreams (see Hemispheres)
Hold Your Fire: High Water
Presto: Presto
Roll The Bones: Neurotica
Counterparts: Nobody's Hero (Speed of Love is close)
Test For Echo:  Daaaawg Years (Virtuality is close)
Vapor Trails: Earthshine (or Freeze, unsure on this)
Snakes And Arrows: Armor and Sword
Clockwork Angels: BU2B2... maybe Carnies
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« Reply #2790 on: November 28, 2017, 02:10:48 PM »
Just in the interest of discussion, "Prime Mover" (pg1067) and "Losing It" (Kattoelox) are both in my top 10 or 15 Rush songs ever.   :)

I do agree with Dog Years and Speed of Love.  They could be on the least favorite list, too.

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« Reply #2791 on: November 28, 2017, 02:12:38 PM »
Just in the interest of discussion, "Prime Mover" (pg1067) and "Losing It" (Kattoelox) are both in my top 10 or 15 Rush songs ever.   :)

Just in the interest of rebuttal, I like both of those songs, especially Losing It.
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« Reply #2792 on: November 28, 2017, 02:15:00 PM »
That's funny. I think Losing It and Countdown are the only underwhelming songs on Signals (not bad, just underwhelming) - everything else? Gold, Jerry.
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« Reply #2793 on: November 28, 2017, 02:36:32 PM »
Rush: Never played it all
Fly By Night: Rivendell
Caress of Steel: I enjoy it all
2112: Nothing less than great here
A Farewell To Kings: Nothing less than great here either
Hemispheres: Hemispheres- just don’t love it and it’s nothing compared to Cygnus
Permanent Waves: No, another excellent album
Moving Pictures: Vital Signs by an absolute mile. Yuk.
Signals: Chemistry. See Vital Signs
Grace Under Pressure: Red Lenses
Power Windows: Pretty flawless throughout
Hold Your Fire: Prime Mover if I had to pick one
Presto: Anagram.
Roll The Bones: Neurotica
Counterparts: Stick It Out, but it’s miles better than Vital Signs, Chemistry and all the others I’ve picked.
Test For Echo:  All of it, though the title track is ok.
Vapor Trails: All Of it
Snakes And Arrows: All of it
Clockwork Angels: Mom, not played it enough but I enjoy it all when I do

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« Reply #2794 on: November 28, 2017, 02:41:06 PM »

Clockwork Angels: Mom, not played it enough but I enjoy it all when I do

Pretty sure my Mom has not played it enough either.


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« Reply #2795 on: November 28, 2017, 03:10:42 PM »

Clockwork Angels: Mom, not played it enough but I enjoy it all when I do

Pretty sure my Mom has not played it enough either.


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She told me she didn’t rate it when I was round ther3 the other night 😜

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« Reply #2796 on: November 28, 2017, 03:12:56 PM »
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #2797 on: November 28, 2017, 03:38:49 PM »
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« Reply #2798 on: November 28, 2017, 03:43:38 PM »

Clockwork Angels: Mom, not played it enough but I enjoy it all when I do

Pretty sure my Mom has not played it enough either.


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She told me she didn’t rate it when I was round ther3 the other night 😜

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« Reply #2799 on: November 28, 2017, 04:38:36 PM »
That's funny. I think Losing It and Countdown are the only underwhelming songs on Signals (not bad, just underwhelming) - everything else? Gold, Jerry.
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