Rush v. Dirk, Pratt, & Lerxst

[Lucien]

if anything, Hold Your Fire is the most uplifting album they put out


also from the spirit of the radio video

 

[Anguyen92]

^^ Speaking of that.  Here's the video! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jxfDuiDtzU

I don't think I have ever found a really good version of The Spirit of Radio, in these recent DVDs, where A. Geddy's voice is crisp, and B. The crowd goes really roaring during the "Concert Hall" part in these DVDs.  The closest to me was Snakes & Arrows Live.  This version seems all right.  Geddy sounds better here than in say the Time Machine DVD.

[King Postwhore]

Power Windows is uplifting??

Songs about war, nuclear bonbs, greed?

Musically you git.  Not lyrically. 

[Zydar]

Well, Marathon has pretty uplifting lyrics.

[jammindude]

Even though I put Power Windows as my #3 or 4 album overall, there is no question that it is Neil's greatest lyrical achievement.  Absolutely #1 in the lyrical department, and it's not even close.    Big Money is the only shaky one in the bunch, and even that one is not bad. 

[King Postwhore]

well all this Power Windows talk I just started playing it right after I&W finished.  Nice way to do paperwork I must say.

[RoeDent]

I bought Vapor Trails today. Listened to it, and nothing really grabbed me on first listen. Nothing I can hook onto and look forward to during subsequent listens.

[The Letter M]

I bought Vapor Trails today. Listened to it, and nothing really grabbed me on first listen. Nothing I can hook onto and look forward to during subsequent listens.

The original or the new remixes by Bottrill?

-Marc.

[Anguyen92]

On that note, I've been really digging Peaceable Kingdom as of late.  Didn't know what I didn't like it too much, when I heard the remixed version the 1st time, but it's pretty good. 

There are some good stuff on Vapor Trails.  Ceiling Unlimited, Earthshine, Freeze, Out of the Cradle, and Ghost Rider are still among my favorites on it.  I just wished they played one of those tracks as oppose to One Little Victory or the occasional How It Is for the Vapor Trails part of the R40 tour.

[fadetoblackdude7]

Power Windows is by far my favorite Rush album.

[KevShmev]

Watched R40 the other night at a friend's house...

-Geddy's vocals are probably better than they were on the last two DVDs/Blu-rays, but still rough at times
-Much like our show here in STL, Alex looked like he wasn't having fun most of the show
-Losing It was such a pleasure to finally see, even just on the Blu-ray
-2nd set/encore still just absolutely sick
-It's over

[Stadler]

Even though I put Power Windows as my #3 or 4 album overall, there is no question that it is Neil's greatest lyrical achievement.  Absolutely #1 in the lyrical department, and it's not even close.    Big Money is the only shaky one in the bunch, and even that one is not bad.

I might give you No. 1, but I wouldn't say "not even close".   That is a watershed album for me, because it is one of the first albums I bought on CD (that, Perfect Strangers, and Misplaced Childhood, when I got my first CD player), and the first tour I saw them.   But...

Presto gives it a run for it's money on lyrical content.

[King Postwhore]

I got to see Marillion play Misplaced Childhood live opening up for Rush on the Power Windows tour.  Hard to beat that.

[Orbert]

Most memorable concert experience?  Or just bragging?   

[King Postwhore]

Top ten.  And bragging.

[Stadler]

I got to see Marillion play Misplaced Childhood live opening up for Rush on the Power Windows tour.  Hard to beat that.

Damn you.   Just, damn you.

I got The Steve Morse Band as opener for that show; they came back around to I think Worcester Mass (or Springfield; it was in Mass).  I was new at UConn - which meant it was about a 20 minute ride from where I was - and though a guy in my chemistry class asked if I was interested, I passed.  My logic - then - was:

- I already saw this (Rush) tour;
- It was always an hour and a half or so to Mass from where I lived in CT, so I overestimated how long it would take to get there;
- I dug Marillion, but didn't know if it was worth an hour and a half drive (see above) for an opening act (40 minutes, in my experience);
- I was new to UConn, so there were girls there;
- I had beer;
- I didn't know the guy all that well (read: at all)

If I'm not mistaken, it was one of the shows where Marillion was booed, and while that isn't cool, in hindsight, I shoulda gone.   No question.   

[King Postwhore]

Damn Stadler.  That's exactly correct.  I saw them opening night in Maine, met Geddy, that's when I was front row, general admission right in front of the bass player, Jerry Peak and Alex for Rush.  In Springfield, that's when Marillion opened for them.

Edit:  No they were not booed.

[YtseCullen]

Watched R40 the other night at a friend's house...

-Geddy's vocals are probably better than they were on the last two DVDs/Blu-rays, but still rough at times
-Much like our show here in STL, Alex looked like he wasn't having fun most of the show
-Losing It was such a pleasure to finally see, even just on the Blu-ray
-2nd set/encore still just absolutely sick
-It's over

I could definitely sense that from the Vancouver show. Just kinda going through the motions. It must be hard though with his arthritis, so I can't say I'm surprised if he wasn't have a ton of fun.

[KevShmev]

I don't think "going through the motions" is the right way to put it.  I just think it was more of a struggle for Alex and Neil because of how much pain they were in, and it's hard to have fun or even look like you're having fun, when you're hurting and giving your all to get through a 3-hour show.

[King Postwhore]

I'll beg them to continue to "go throught the motions" because it's not true.

[TAC]

I haven't seen Rush in a long time but in the half dozen times I have seen them, half of those they were definitely going through motions. Neil has never looked like he was having fun.

But his playing on this tour was very inspired and I don't think he has ever sounded or played better.

[King Postwhore]

Tim I would say you also didn't connect to the newer music which affected how you enjoyed the show.

[jingle.boy]

I haven't seen Rush in a long time but in the half dozen times I have seen them, half of those they were definitely going through motions. Neil has never looked like he was having fun.

But his playing on this tour was very inspired and I don't think he has ever sounded or played better.

Neil just isn't a flamboyant entertainer.  He does his thing, and he does it brilliantly.  It's not like he's Portnoy or Mangini or anything.  His "schtick" hasn't changed much since the first concert vid I ever saw - A Show of Hands.  As for Alex... I don't know what I was watching then, because nothing stuck out as him going thru the motions in my mind. 

Gezuz guys, let's see what "motions" we're all going thru in our mid-60s.   

[TAC]

Since Rush regrouped for Vapir Trails the band has had a much different personality. It's like they now appreciate what they have and are enjoying it. There's a lot more joy eminating from the band that was absent from them previously.

[KevShmev]

Neil has never looked like he was having fun.
 

He always looks like that. I have often said he is the picture of concentration back there, and given that he has not liked playing live for a long time, I think he just concentrates on doing the job well.

But his playing on this tour was very inspired and I don't think he has ever sounded or played better.

There's no way I can say that.  For his age, his playing is still pretty ridiculous, but if you go back and watch Xanadu for ESL, for example, he does several fills that are just crazy fast, and he didn't come close to doing those this time around.  Not that speed means everything, but I think you know what I mean.  Again, for his age, his playing is still off the charts, but he is no longer at the top of his game (which, really, was THE best any rock drummer ever was).  Of the three, I think Geddy is the one you could argue is playing as good as ever (but not singing as good as ever ).

[Zydar]

Geddy is interested in getting Steven Wilson to remix Rush albums in 5.1

[King Postwhore]

I would die to hear that.

[Lucien]

I would die to hear that.

[TAC]

But his playing on this tour was very inspired and I don't think he has ever sounded or played better.

There's no way I can say that.  For his age, his playing is still pretty ridiculous, but if you go back and watch Xanadu for ESL, for example, he does several fills that are just crazy fast, and he didn't come close to doing those this time around.  Not that speed means everything, but I think you know what I mean.  Again, for his age, his playing is still off the charts, but he is no longer at the top of his game (which, really, was THE best any rock drummer ever was).  Of the three, I think Geddy is the one you could argue is playing as good as ever (but not singing as good as ever ).

What I should've said was he has never played better since their prime which to me was PW/MP era, so as you correctly cite ESL, we are actually in agreement. Like it or not!

[TAC]

Tim I would say you also didn't connect to the newer music which affected how you enjoyed the show.

I don't know. I think Hold Your Fire blows, but that might've been the best Rush show I ever saw.

[Big Hath]

Geddy is interested in getting Steven Wilson to remix Rush albums in 5.1

[King Postwhore]

Tim I would say you also didn't connect to the newer music which affected how you enjoyed the show.

I don't know. I think Hold Your Fire blows, but that might've been the best Rush show I ever saw.

T4E tour was killer every show I saw.

Geddy is interested in getting Steven Wilson to remix Rush albums in 5.1

Yup, we would all cream out pants.

[TAC]

I saw the show in Boston. Rush by numbers. That was the last time I saw them.

[Stadler]

I would die to hear that.

As would I.  Big time.

[KevShmev]

Geddy is interested in getting Steven Wilson to remix Rush albums in 5.1

Yup, we would all cream out pants.

Would?  Like we all haven't already??