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What are the 3 best songs on Clockwork Angels?

Caravan
58 (12.3%)
BU2B
32 (6.8%)
Clockwork Angels
72 (15.2%)
The Anarchist
36 (7.6%)
Carnies
16 (3.4%)
Halo Effect
10 (2.1%)
Seven Cities of Gold
17 (3.6%)
The Wreckers
39 (8.2%)
Headlong Flight
72 (15.2%)
BU2B2
4 (0.8%)
Wish Them Well
13 (2.7%)
The Garden
104 (22%)

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« Reply #105 on: September 09, 2012, 03:50:31 PM »
1 Body Electric dropped for Middletown Dreams
2 Bravado for The Pass
3 Carnies for Seven Cities
4 Manhattan Project for Dreamline
5 Spirit of Radio for 2112

1B, 2B, 3B, 4equal, 5B.

Just got around to really comparing this now. If this is true, Philly is going to be fucking insane.
Philly will be a B show? hadnt counted up to see  :P
Not sure how i feel one way or the other, i think id have to listen to all the songs to decide.. i would like TSOR, but 2112 is epic too  :hefdaddy

"2112" Would be MORE epic if it's the Overture/The Temples Of Syrinx/Grand Finale medley they did on the R30 tour. I did see the picture of Geddy's set list on his keyboard rig, from the Manchester show, which had "Limelight" crossed out between "Tom Sawyer" and "The Spirit Of Radio", so making "2112" the 3-part medley in place of "Limelight" and "The Spirit Of Radio" would make sense, considering it runs about 8:15 long, it would keep the encore at about the same length.

Although, IIRC, this might be the first time they've rotated songs in the encore on an A/B format, but they have changed songs in the encore mid-tour before, like on the Presto Tour, the encore began with "The Big Money", then changed to "The Spirit Of Radio".

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« Reply #106 on: September 09, 2012, 06:26:51 PM »
Middletown is being played. Color me surprised, this is awesome. It's like the band has taken everything I've ever wanted for the past few tours and thrown it into this, fucking amazing!
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Re: Rush v. Dirk, Pratt & Lerxst
« Reply #107 on: September 09, 2012, 06:49:18 PM »
I'd rather see Middletown over Body Electric, Seven Cities instead of Carnies, and 2112 instead of TSOR, but I want to see Bravado and Manhattan Project more than any of those others, so A wins out.

And it turns out one of my friends is trying to sell a Rush ticket for the Charlotte show, which would be an A show.  Hopefully I'll nail this interview and I can finance it for $20/month for six months.  That would be RAD.

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« Reply #108 on: September 09, 2012, 09:01:31 PM »
I suspect that if they end the show with 2112, they will play The Grand Finale after the Overture and Temples.

Kev - you were right! They brought back the R30 version of "2112" and played "Grand Finale" tonight, though no word on whether or not Alex played the solo at the end. I hope he does!

As noted, the alternate "Night B" set list was played tonight. Now the only question that remains, for the set list this tour, is whether or not "Limelight" will make it to the encore between "Tom Sawyer" and "The Spirit Of Radio" in the "Night A" set list.

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« Reply #109 on: September 09, 2012, 09:20:11 PM »
This tour is totally tits. Seriously, this is the best tour of Rush's post golden age career.
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« Reply #110 on: September 09, 2012, 09:28:49 PM »
This tour is totally tits. Seriously, this is the best tour of Rush's post golden age career.

Totally! This is probably one of my favorite set lists of the last 20 years (from the RTB tour to now), I'd say right up there with the Counterparts and Test For Echo tour set lists.

I really hope both sets make it to the DVD/CD set!

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« Reply #111 on: September 09, 2012, 09:50:16 PM »
Save for 2112, I love the A set so much more.

I guess this means I'm headed to Bridgeport instead of Philly.


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« Reply #112 on: September 09, 2012, 09:55:05 PM »
For my father and my brother, the fact that they are playing Limelight pissed them off
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« Reply #113 on: September 09, 2012, 10:39:44 PM »
So I'm watching a video of "Headlong Flight" from Manchester, and Neil's short solo in the middle of the song features him playing to samples of Alex/Geddy playing riffs from the song. It seems like Neil has dissected his traditional 8-10 minute drum solo and divided it into three parts:
The Acoustic Drum Solo - played in the middle of "Where's My Thing?", features some of Neil's old solo bits, like the Waltz and cross-overs
The Samples Play-Along - played in the middle of "Headlong Flight", taking the place of his usual horn-samples he's played since the Power Windows Tour
The Electronic Drum Solo - played before "Red Sector A", features a whole new first half with techno sounds, then does some 7/8 things Neil loves to do, then brings back the steam-y sound bits from his Time Machine Tour solo

Over-all, between these 3 solo spots, he's featured for about 5:45 of the show, considerably less than he's done in recent years. I thoroughly enjoy that Neil is shaking things up with his solo. His solo, as it was, had been growing and evolving since 1986, and while it's changed a bit more in the last few tours, I'm glad he's decided to do something different. I wonder if he was just getting tired of doing 8-10 minute solo spots for himself? Either way, it's a neat way for him to be featured throughout the set!


EDIT - some more notes about this tour that I've compiled (and thusly sent to Eric @ the Power Windows website)

Also of note:
"2112" played on the "Night B" set list is the R30 version with Grand Finale after Overture/The Temples Of Syrinx
Alex has a keyboard rig on his right, which (so far that I've seen) he plays during "The Garden"
With "Night B" being real, only 8 out of 20 albums are not represented on this tour: FBN, COS, AFTK, HEMI, CP, TFE, VT and FB.

A total of 30 songs are featured on this tour, with 5 swapping out each night. In Comparison:
24 - Time Machine Tour
31 - Snakes & Arrows Tour (both legs)
34 - R30 Tour (counting the 6 parts of the R30 Overture separately, otherwise, it's 29)
31 - Vapor Trails Tour (counting song swaps and the addition of CTTH)
25 - Test For Echo Tour
(Drum solos were not counted in the song counts above)

Over-all, the show is longer than the previous tour (by about 18 minutes), but shorter than the Snakes & Arrows Tour (by about 15 minutes), and about as long as the average Vapor Trails Tour show (music only, not counting intro/outro videos).

Song Notes:
-The band plays a total of 10 new songs from the album, dismissing only "BU2B" and "BU2B2", though the former was played on the Time Machine Tour, meaning all but ONE of the album's songs will have been played live.
-"Subdivisions", along with staples "Tom Sawyer", "The Spirit Of Radio", "YYZ", "Working Man", and "Far Cry", all return from the Time Machine Tour
-"Dreamline" returns from the Snakes & Arrows Tour
-"Force Ten", "Red Sector A" and the "2112" Medley both return from the R30 Tour
-"The Big Money", "The Pass" and "Bravado" all return since last being played on the Vapor Trails Tour in 2002
-"The Analog Kid" returns since last being played on the Counterparts Tour
-"Where's My Thing?" returns having ONLY been played on the Roll The Bones Tour
-"Manhattan Project" returns, last seen on the Presto Tour
-"Territories" returns since last being played on the Hold Your Fire Tour
-"Grand Designs" AND "Middletown Dreams" both return, having ONLY been played on the Power Windows Tour
-"The Body Electric" returns since last being played on the Power Windows Warm-Up Tour in March 1985

-Only 5 songs are played from their Pre-Signals albums: "Working Man", "2112", "The Spirit Of Radio", "Tom Sawyer", and "YYZ" (possibly 6 if "Limelight" does indeed return), and they're all played at the end of the show.
-Only 5 songs are played from albums between Presto and Snakes & Arrows: "The Pass", "Dreamline", "Bravado", "Where's My Thing?", and "Far Cry", and all but "Dreamline" are played in the first set.
-A total of 10 songs hail from their 80's/Synth material (Signals-Hold Your Fire), and a total of 10 songs are being played from the new album, both chunks making up 2/3rds of the total songs played this tour.

-Since the R30 Tour, Rush have played SEVEN out of EIGHT tracks from Power Windows: "Mystic Rhythms" on the R30 Tour, "Marathon" on the Time Machine Tour, and the other five on this tour. The only track not played (and still remains to be) - "Emotion Detector"
-Similarly, since the Vapor Trails Tour, 4 songs from Signals have been played ("Subdivisions", "The Analog Kid", "Digital Man", and "New World Man") and 4 songs from Grace Under Pressure have been played ("Distant Early Warning", "Red Sector A", "The Body Electric" and "Between The Wheels").
-However, only 3 tracks have been played from Hold Your Fire and are the only tracks from that album that were played AFTER the Hold Your Fire Tour - "Force Ten", "Time Stand Still" and "Mission".

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« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2012, 11:45:41 PM »
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« Reply #115 on: September 10, 2012, 04:30:00 AM »
I didn't quite believe it when I read the setlist - a LOT of 80's stuff. Fortunately, I love that era, and I'm stoked about seeing that stuff live. I'm glad they're shaking things up.  :metal

Prefer Set A, though - TSOR is a better closer than 2112, and I'd rather hear Bravado and Manhatten Project over Dreamline and The Pass (although I'd much rather hear both!)
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« Reply #117 on: September 10, 2012, 08:49:38 AM »
It was a nice surprise seeing Alex play the piano section before the guitar solo.
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« Reply #119 on: September 10, 2012, 10:00:21 AM »
Looking forward to the show in a couple of weeks!

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« Reply #120 on: September 10, 2012, 11:21:12 AM »
I just realized they're making the pop corns next to Neil's set. They've always had ridiculous stage props like this, although the washing machines were teh best.  :lol

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« Reply #121 on: September 10, 2012, 11:27:32 AM »
Now I really hope they add another US   leg in spring next year. Summer would be nice as well
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« Reply #122 on: September 11, 2012, 02:45:44 PM »
"The measure of a life, is a measure of love and respect; so hard to earn, so easily burned..."  :metal

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« Reply #123 on: September 11, 2012, 09:28:22 PM »
Hmmm, back to Set List A tonight, but it looks like 2112 was still played instead of The Spirit of Radio, Wish Them Well was dropped and they played both Carnies and Seven Cities of Gold. 

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« Reply #124 on: September 11, 2012, 09:47:42 PM »
Hmmm, back to Set List A tonight, but it looks like 2112 was still played instead of The Spirit of Radio, Wish Them Well was dropped and they played both Carnies and Seven Cities of Gold.

It's very interesting. Still no sign of "Limelight", and it would be a shame if they've permanently dropped "The Spirit Of Radio", although having that solo in "Grand Finale" again is pretty fantastic.

Also, having both "Carnies" AND "Seven Cities Of Gold" is pretty epic. Guess we'll have to wait a few more shows to see how this set list pans out!

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« Reply #125 on: September 11, 2012, 10:16:45 PM »
2112 >> SoR

I'm shocked as hell that SoR isn't being played at every show, as I've always considered it and Tom Sawyer the two that would never be dropped (although they did try it with SoR once before), but I'm happy about it.

Also, I think it's pretty clear why the setlists look a lot like they do. I think Geddy was reaching the point where they either had to cut down the show time a lot to keep playing the amount of older material they were used to, or they could keep the length and play more stuff he can sing easier. It's telling that all the old staples are at the end of the set as well. Sing the easy stuff for most of the night and then it's not as bad if you end up blowing it out a bit at the end.
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« Reply #126 on: September 11, 2012, 10:20:52 PM »
2112 >> SoR

I'm shocked as hell that SoR isn't being played at every show, as I've always considered it and Tom Sawyer the two that would never be dropped (although they did try it with SoR once before), but I'm happy about it.

Also, I think it's pretty clear why the setlists look a lot like they do. I think Geddy was reaching the point where they either had to cut down the show time a lot to keep playing the amount of older material they were used to, or they could keep the length and play more stuff he can sing easier. It's telling that all the old staples are at the end of the set as well. Sing the easy stuff for most of the night and then it's not as bad if you end up blowing it out a bit at the end.

True. It is pretty odd. I just hope that ALL Of the songs being played this tour (that is, all 30 of them) will be recorded and filmed for a future live DVD and CD release. There's just no excuse not to release all of these wonderful songs, many of which would see their first live release!

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« Reply #127 on: September 12, 2012, 03:12:19 AM »
Wish Them Well was dropped and they played both Carnies and Seven Cities of Gold.

IMO, Seven Cities is one of the stronger tracks on the new album, and the one that I was most looking forward to seeing live, so I was very surprised it was a rotational song. Wish Them Well is my least favourite song, so I'm quite glad that's not a permanent feature of the setlist after all.

Still can't quite believe there's no Limelight, no Freewill, Spirit of Radio is on rotation, and they're playing five songs from Power Windows plus The Body Electric...
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« Reply #128 on: September 12, 2012, 05:23:02 AM »
Wish them well is a classic, I like it better than Carnies and Seven cities.  :metal

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« Reply #129 on: September 12, 2012, 06:26:50 AM »
As a fan who's seen them 29 times, I'm glad they are mixing it up.  I know they have to play some standards but I am glad it's not 10 standard songs deep.  Good to see them cut the amount of standard songs.
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« Reply #130 on: September 12, 2012, 07:48:21 AM »
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« Reply #132 on: September 12, 2012, 09:47:04 AM »
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« Reply #133 on: September 12, 2012, 09:55:40 AM »
I'll join in, too! Happy Birthday to one of my greatest inspirations and influences as a musician, percussionist and drummer - Neil Peart! a.k.a. The Professor a.k.a. Pratt a.k.a. Dr. Braino

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« Reply #135 on: September 12, 2012, 09:23:06 PM »
1 Body Electric dropped for Middletown Dreams
2 Bravado for The Pass
3 Carnies for Seven Cities
4 Manhattan Project for Dreamline
5 Spirit of Radio for 2112

1B, 2B, 3B, 4equal, 5B.

Just got around to really comparing this now. If this is true, Philly is going to be fucking insane.

No it isn't. This is why I'm dropping Philly and driving 4 hours to Bridgeport without a ticket.

 I love 2112 and all, but I'm not missing my shot at The Body Electric and Manhattan Project before they've realized their mistake!

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« Reply #136 on: September 12, 2012, 09:25:39 PM »
Now I really hope they add another US   leg in spring next year. Summer would be nice as well

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« Reply #137 on: September 12, 2012, 10:37:17 PM »
That's cool to hear. They usually come back to Minnesota when they do that
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« Reply #138 on: September 12, 2012, 10:39:28 PM »
And by then, they will have dropped Tom Sawyer and Subdivisions for Open Secrets and Everyday Glory. :coolio :hat :eek :biggrin:

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« Reply #139 on: September 12, 2012, 10:41:24 PM »
And by then, they will have dropped Tom Sawyer and Subdivisions for Open Secrets and Everyday Glory. :coolio :hat :eek :biggrin:

I want to laugh, but at this point who the fuck knows. I still seriously can't wrap my head around how far out the window they've thrown out the playbook, it's awesome.
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