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Re: All musicians unite! - The Musicians Chat Thread
« Reply #1750 on: November 27, 2018, 03:25:19 PM »
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Re: All musicians unite! - The Musicians Chat Thread
« Reply #1751 on: November 30, 2018, 03:18:46 PM »
So I heard from another band, a Skynyrd tribute band.  I told them I liked Skynyrd okay, but I'm not crazy enough about them to want to join a tribute band.  If I'm gonna play, I need more variety and stuff.  But I thanked them for the note and wished them luck in their search.

The band with the 12 videos and nine of them I'd never even heard of the songs, they followed up with another list of tunes (at my request) and they're mostly different, but still in the same vein.  Trower, Clapton, Doors, and it occurred to me that this is a band of all guys, because no way a girl's singing those songs.  Plus, other than The Doors, a lot of their songs don't even have keys.  ZZ Top, Cream.  The videos were all from three years ago and they don't do any of those songs anymore.  They have a different lineup now; it was really just to give me an idea.  In other words, we don't have the hot babe singer any more.  So I told them hey I'm sorry but I'm gonna pull out of this.  I used those words because it amused me.  But I thanked them and wished them luck in their search.

But this other band, the one with a song list that's kinda cool, I'm still gonna jam with them next Tuesday.  The leader is a woman named Carol who is the same age as me (56) but looks like she keeps in shape.  Once we got serious and exchanged song lists via email, I had her last name, so I stalked her out on Facebook and checked her out.  I'm still planning on going to her house to jam with three other dudes (guitar, bass, drums) so this could be cool.  She picked "Don't Stop" by Fleetwood Mac, "Born to be Wild", "Margaritaville", and "Come Sail Away".  She told me to pick two songs from her list to be my "showcase" for them.

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I think it's amusing how, throughout all of this, neither I nor any of the bands/persons I've communicated with have used the word "audition".  We've talked about getting together to jam, see if we have any chemistry, see if it's a good fit, but never used the "A" word.  And now that I think about it, I'm the only one who's really talked about chemistry and fit; they're just looking for a keyboard player, and I'm musically promiscuous.

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So anyway, I picked "Don't Stop Believin'" by Journey because I learned it recently and want to play it, and "Never Been Any Reason" by Head East.  Synth and B-3 all up in that bitch.  I would've picked "Come Sail Away" as one of my showcase tunes, but Carol had already picked it, because she wants to see what I can do with it anyway.  I hope she's prepared to have her britches blown off, in a not necessarily gentle fashion.

So two bands still on the hook right now.  I'm jamming with Carol and her band next Tuesday, and this other band still wants me to get back to them.  I'd told them already that the holidays get pretty crazy for me, but if they're okay waiting until after new year's, maybe we can do something then.  The guy got back to me and asked if Jan 7 worked.  It's a Monday.  Oh yeah, this is the band that practices Thursdays, which I thought ruled them out, but they're willing to do a Monday night.  Fuck.  They're like 45 minutes south of me, the opposite direction from work from my house.  I'd be driving over an hour to get there after work on a Monday night.  I'll give him credit: he's pushing, but not quite pushing too hard.  It just confirms my theory that I'm in control here.  I don't need them; they want me, or at least want to check me out.

I find this whole process to be very enlightening, and entertaining.  Win-win.  :hat

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Re: All musicians unite! - The Musicians Chat Thread
« Reply #1752 on: December 02, 2018, 06:48:45 AM »
Heard from yet another band yesterday, a Steampunk band.  I'm familiar with Steampunk as an aesthetic, but I have no idea what a band based on that concept would be.  But their stage sets and promo pictures all have a Steampunk aesthetic to them.  Also long hair, facial hair, black leather, and overall "badass" look.  I could conceivably fit in with the badass Asian thing going on.  But overall not my thing.  They do mostly studio and festival work; they have a CD of original music.  It sounds like they're a much more serious band and work a lot harder than what I'm looking for right now.  Also, the girl is kinda ugly.  I told them thanks for the note and I wish them luck.

I told the Monday night band I was pulling out.  I like that phrase.  It's common enough to where it doesn't have to carry sexual undertones, but it does anyway and when you tell someone you're pulling out, you're telling them that it's over, all the foreplay was for naught, and hey we're both a little disappointed here, but let's try to move on with our lives.

I changed my status from "seeking band to play with" to nothing.  I'm just a guy out there with a profile page.  I'm going jam with Carol and her band next Tuesday because I spent a couple more hours tweaking "Margaritaville" and "Don't Stop Believin'" and now I want to actually play them with someone, if only once.  Plus they're only like ten minutes from my house, so going over there on a weeknight isn't the complete pain it is going up to John's house after work.  If my regular band finally self-destructs or whatever, they could be a good fallback, so I want to keep them on good terms.  Something we tried but the timing just wasn't right.

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Re: All musicians unite! - The Musicians Chat Thread
« Reply #1753 on: December 04, 2018, 03:45:34 PM »
When I think about my main band, and the various musical side projects I have, I often find myself thinking in terms of relationships.  And yes, I mean that in a sense analogous to relationships between two people.  My main band (whose name some people may have noticed I don't use anymore, because it occurred to me that people could search for it and find this thread, and find out all kinds of gooey secrets that really ought not to be shared with the public (but I'm too lazy to go back and excise from earlier posts)) is obviously my main squeeze.  Tonight I jam with another band, one that's looking for a keyboard player.  I told my wife a few weeks back that I was flirting online with another band.  I find myself looking forward to this in some ways I assume are similar to having an affair, a piece on the side.  No one in the band knows about it.  I'm going to go get my rocks off tonight (hopefully) with some strange, do things that my main squeeze isn't into, and I'm excited about it.  Kinda like... you know.

Now seriously, I realize that the analogy only goes so far.  For one thing, there's no reason not to tell my main squeeze about it.  We're not monogamous; we're not in some kind of exclusive relationship.  Most of us have other musical endeavors that we're involved in.  David and JT each play regularly with another band.  Jerry has studio stuff that he does with some band.  Even I have all the musical stuff that I do at church.  But the church stuff is kinda like my female co-workers.  Appreciate, admire, enjoy the time together, but it's understood all the way around that it's 100% chaste and can never lead to anything more.

But this is different.  I learned two songs for tonight and have been practicing four others today.  I'm looking forward to rocking differently.  I'm looking forward to connecting with new musicians, playing new songs, and playing some old songs differently, because it's always different.  Everyone is different.  And jamming is much like pizza, or sex.  Even when it's bad, it's good.  It's all good.  I'm gonna take a shower, shave my face, cop a buzz, and go rock and roll.  I already assume that this will be a one-night stand, as my regular band is starting to line up gigs for early next year.  But this is kinduv exciting.

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Re: All musicians unite! - The Musicians Chat Thread
« Reply #1754 on: December 05, 2018, 07:35:09 AM »
There is the walk of shame, and then there is the "haul your keyboards, stand, and amp up a steep narrow staircase and out to your car" of shame.

Yeah, it was still good.  Making music.  But No, I'm not going to be joining this band.  And despite the fact that the guitarist was pretty bad but at least was a self-admitted "rhythm guitarist, not a lead guitarist" and the bassist was kind of an asshole, the Number One Reason why I'm not joining this band is because of that stairway.

Her email said to take the driveway all the way to the back, and she'll help me load in my stuff.  The driveway is long and narrow and runs between her house and the neighbors next door.  You either drive in and later back all the way out, or back all the way in so you can drive straight out, but there is no margin for error.  Once inside, the basement stairs are right there.  There is no room to set anything down for a second while you close the back door.  The stairway is steep and narrow; it's an older house and making stairways up to code was optional, if there was even a code back then.  The practice space is at the far end.  They cleared a spot for me by the drum kit in front of the big bookshelf with stuff on it that I kept bumping into.  Once we were all set up, I could not get to and from my keyboards without stepping on cords.  They were all over the floor, and there wasn't much room to begin with.  Also, it was loud as fuck in there, with acoustic drums and everyone amped, in a tiny basement.

They practice every Tuesday night, in that basement.  If the band was really good, or the singer was really hot, it might be worth it.  But I'm not going to make three trips up and down those stairs every week carrying my stuff in, and three more later carrying it back out, and deal with that driveway, too.  I'm the one in demand.  They wanted me; they wanted to add me to the emails "just in case" and start talking about next week's songs (even though half the guys hadn't bothered learning the ones we played last night), but I'm in control here.  I set the bar as low or as high as I want.  And fuck that stairway.  I'm not dealing with it.

I sent her an email this morning.  I told her I was sorry, I know I'd said I wouldn't make a decision right away, but I'd actually decided before we were done last night, and it was just awkward being there after I'd made my decision, and I couldn't say No to their faces.  I'm such a wimp.  But whatever, I sent the email.  I'm done with this particular experiment, for now.

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Re: All musicians unite! - The Musicians Chat Thread
« Reply #1755 on: December 06, 2018, 09:37:30 AM »
That's too bad.
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« Reply #1756 on: December 06, 2018, 11:56:04 AM »
Yes and No.  I wanted to test the waters, see if keyboard players really are in demand as I'd been led to believe, and as I kinda guessed was true anyway.  It is definitely true.  I was contacted by six people in a week, all looking for keyboard players.  So at the very least, I now know what I'd only suspected before, and I consider knowledge a good thing.

Kinda bad because the band and their situation turned out to be not great.  They're just starting out.  The guitarist is easily the weakest link, but he admits he's not lead guitarist material.  They are currently looking for keyboards and a lead guitarist.  Some of the songs we played, they'd never actually played through as a group before.  Maybe it's not fair to hold them to the same standards as my regular band, but I honestly don't see that as excuse for what I see as the biggest problem, musically anyway.  They just weren't prepared.  The drummer said he was glad he'd listened to the songs earlier that day, or it would've been much worse.  The guitarist was reading chord charts on his iPad while we were playing.  What the fuck, people?  I showed up there with all six songs in the bag, ready to go onstage and play.  Dual keys on three of the songs, background vocals down, the works.  You perform how you practice, which means you show up to practice ready to perform.  I'm just starting to come to terms with singers reading lyrics off an iPad or sheet, but I'm not going to play in a band where there's people reading the chord charts as they play.  There's being able to play the songs, there's knowing how to play the songs, then there's knowing the songs.  Don't tell me you know the song if you have to read it off a chart.  You can play the song, great, you know how to play the song, okay, but you don't know the song.

Turns out Tuesday night is their regular practice night.  They do this every week.  I have no idea how they expect to get anything done as a group if they don't individually do their homework first.  You don't waste band rehearsal time discussing how many times that one section repeats before you go into the solo, or how many bars the solo is.  Theoretically, you've been playing this song along with the mp3 or video or whatever and know exactly how it goes.  That goes for every song.

I told Carol the truth, that I'd forgotten how much work it is to get a band started, but it's not something I'm interested in.  Somehow I'd imagined "band looking for a keyboard player" to mean an established band, already together for a while and maybe even gigging.  All I'd have to do is learn the songs, show up, and suddenly we're awesome.  I didn't think to include that in my profile.  I'm definitely not interested in helping start a new band.  I mentioned the lack of preparation and the chord charts and people not knowing the songs we'd all agreed on a week earlier.

I didn't mention the staircase.

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Re: All musicians unite! - The Musicians Chat Thread
« Reply #1757 on: Today at 06:02:11 AM »
After a year of playing alone and trying to for a pop punk + metal band, I've been mailed by a pop punk band that just fired a lazy guitarist and that have a gig on 26th january.
Since we got along well on messenger, I think tonights rehearsal will be fine ^^
Even my wife is uber supportive because it's her favorite music ;)
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« Reply #1758 on: Today at 08:27:07 AM »
Good luck!

It can be tough when you have little kids.  I'd stopped playing in bands when I "got serious" and when back to school, got my degree, got a job, got married, and had kids, but once they were in grade school and junior high, life had settled into a new routine that allowed me time to get out and play again.  Gotta play.