The official Opeth thread v. Bring on the new album!

[skydivingninja]

Heritage

1. I Feel the Dark
2. Lines in my Hand
3. Nepenthe
4. The Devil's Orchard
5. Haxprocess
6. Folklore
7. Marrow of the Earth
8. Famine
9. Slither

[glaurung]

When this is over the forum is never allowed to rank Opeth songs again.

[pogoowner]

When this is over the forum is never allowed to rank Opeth songs again.

God, that would be great.

[DebraKadabra]

SPD is great. It's easily up there with Demon of the Fall as far as being their de facto ass kicker yet has that gorgeous first solo and melodic section leading into what's probably Mike's most hell-summoning roars ever (5:28-6:14) plus there's a beautiful air of despair in the clean vocal section after the 2nd solo. Also gotta love the random Peewee Hermancore outro.

I'd voted it #1 in my rankings so I'm totally agreeing with this.  LOL @ Peewee Hermancore...

When this is over the forum is never allowed to rank Opeth songs again.

Party pooper.

[skydivingninja]

When this is over the forum is never allowed to rank Opeth songs again.

This.  I only contributed to Heritage because there weren't many replies. XD

[black_biff_stadler]

Why is anyone burnt out on the rankings? Barely anybody else was even posting in this thread for the last few months and, even with the rankings going on, this thread seldom had even 10 posts in a day so it's not like it was getting in the way of anything.

[DebraKadabra]

Really, especially since there's not a new Opeth album to speculate about/post about.  I thought it was a nifty way to move the thread along and chat with other of you nice like-minded folks about my musical obsession for 2012.

[black_biff_stadler]

Also, the nice thing about these rankings was the fact that we did it from the beginning so every album was represented. Also, the turnout seemed to be a bit higher than other rankings since the way it usually goes is someone picking an album willy nilly and ranking it and then some other folks either rank that album or just pick another album out of order and interest drops off altogether soon thereafter. I think the way folks avidly participated in this thing was very good for the thread.

[DebraKadabra]

I'm just happy that I was able to participate.

[Big Hath]

you guys ready for the Blackwater Park rankings?

[black_biff_stadler]

Of course I doubt anyone would be bothered if you didn't ask first.

[Big Hath]

Stats and Observations on the Blackwater Park rankings:

Song                     Avg Rank
Bleak                    2.63
The Leper Affinity       3.31
The Drapery Falls        3.38
Blackwater Park          3.63
Harvest                  5.00
The Funeral Portrait     5.50
Patterns in the Ivy      5.88
Dirge For November       6.69




- Fairly clear separation between the top four and bottom four songs.
- Bleak had five 1st place votes.  The Drapery Falls and Blackwater Park each had four 1st place votes, although TDF did have one last place vote.
- The Leper Affinity only had two 1st place votes and it had two last place votes, but TDF and BP had a lot more lower votes bringing their averages down.
- 6 of the 8 songs received at least one last place vote.  Patterns and Dirge each had five last place votes, tied for the most.
- Of the 16 votes, Dirge had 11 that were last or next to last.

[Buddyhunter1]

Blackwater Park is three spots too low.

[Big Hath]

Three people voted it next to last place and two others had it at 6th.  That's what brought it down.

[black_biff_stadler]

I was one of the 6ths. I like it and frequently catch myself working out parts of it for the sheer fun of it when my guitar's in drop D but I just happen to like 5 others more than it. I like this album more than most folks would think.

[?]

Blackwater Park is three spots too high.

Fixed for me.

[black_biff_stadler]

o/

[DebraKadabra]

 

Screw you two, Blackwater Park (the song) is the fucking tits.  THE FUCKING TITS, I SAY.

 

[black_biff_stadler]

Blackwater Park is three spots too low.

Three people voted it next to last place and two others had it at 6th.  That's what brought it down.

I was one of the 6ths. I like it and frequently catch myself working out parts of it for the sheer fun of it when my guitar's in drop D but I just happen to like 5 others more than it. I like this album more than most folks would think.

[?]

o/

\o

Blackwater Park (the song) is the fucking tits.  THE FUCKING TITS, I SAY.

If "the fucking tits" is the synonym for "a song that starts promisingly but loses all momentum after a few minutes and drags on towards the end", then I totally agree with you.

[TioJorge]

I don't know why, but I've lost a lot of momentum in my love for Opeth. Granted, that isn't to say I don't like them any less or that their discography has waned; more that I'm finding it hard to want to listen to them. Despite that, I still love their music and they're still a special band to me, but lately I've just had absolutely no desire to listen to anything but Heritage. That probably sounds so very weird given that the most ferocious, vicious of songs of Opeth are my favorite; but BTBAM has filled the hardcore part of music, which leaves the soft beauty open, and Heritage does that part very well. Another side of me is very eager to hear from the guys again, and I'm kind of worried for their future as it seems they're in a bit of a bind. No matter what they do they will alienate a group was again. If they continue the route of going down a more 70's-psychedelic vibe without any growls, they will disappoint the group that figured this would be a one-shot; and if they go back to the old stuff, they will disappoint the (small) group that wanted that road to go even further.

That said, if they had an album with the best of Heritage and went back to a few growling songs with some harshness, that would be perfection. So I'm really eager to hear from them. I'm not sure what'll happen but for some reason I'm a bit worried for the bands future. Either way, I'm sure I'll be spinning Heritage and Deliverance soon enough. Marrow of the Earth is such a wonderful Fall song to  to during those cold, breezy nights. Alone.

[Buddyhunter1]

If "the fucking tits" is the synonym for "a song that starts promisingly but loses all momentum after a few minutes and drags on towards the end", then I totally agree with you.

your opinion is bad and you should feel bad

[DebraKadabra]

Blackwater Park is three spots too low.

Three people voted it next to last place and two others had it at 6th.  That's what brought it down.

I was one of the 6ths. I like it and frequently catch myself working out parts of it for the sheer fun of it when my guitar's in drop D but I just happen to like 5 others more than it. I like this album more than most folks would think.

Yeah, my comprehension skills were for shit earlier this morning.

If "the fucking tits" is the synonym for "a song that starts promisingly but loses all momentum after a few minutes and drags on towards the end", then I totally agree with you.

Cute.  That's not what I meant and sarcasm about it isn't funny.

your opinion is bad and you should feel bad

 

[TheOutlawXanadu]

I don't know how I would rank its songs, but after re-listening to Blackwater Park recently, all I have to say is this: What a monster of a friggin' album. Absolutely amazing.

[DebraKadabra]

Completely agreed, dude.  BWP is nothing short of completely friggin outstanding.

[?]

I don't know why, but I've lost a lot of momentum in my love for Opeth. Granted, that isn't to say I don't like them any less or that their discography has waned; more that I'm finding it hard to want to listen to them. Despite that, I still love their music and they're still a special band to me, but lately I've just had absolutely no desire to listen to anything but Heritage.

I agree. I haven't lost my interest in Opeth but I haven't really been in the mood for them in a while, except for occasional listens of the mellow stuff. I don't know if I've become exhausted of the prog death sound, it's just that I prefer bands like Paradise Lost and Katatonia right now and for me they're the best bands to listen to in the fall.

your opinion is bad and you should feel bad

Ok... I just don't get the massive " " hype people have for that song - I simply find it pretty meh compared to songs like Bleak, Leper Affinity and The Drapery Falls, let alone the highlights of the other Opeth albums.

[LyterTheDestroyer]

I recently had to reacquire Heritage and I haven't listened to the album in a long time but tonight I happened upon the song, "Folklore" and I must say, that song is so beautiful...

It was like I was transported into the vessel of a tired, adolescent boy spending the night at his friend's house, whom woke up during the night and had to urinate. As he tiptoed through his friend's house toward the bathroom and passed his friend's mother's room, he accidentally caught a glimpse at his friend's hot, single mother's breasts as she changed into a night gown. Overjoyed with happiness and raging hormones, he then died from heart failure.

[Big Hath]

Stats and Observations on the Deliverance rankings:

Song                          Avg Rank
Deliverance                   1.62
Master's Apprentices          2.54
A Fair Judgement              2.77
Wreath                        4.08
By the Pain I See in Others   4.46
For Absent Friends            5.54




- Like Blackwater Park, Deliverance had clear separation between the top and bottom half.
- Deliverance, Master's Apprentices, and A Fair Judgement all received at least two 1st place votes and no last place votes.  Deliverance was clearly the top track with 9 of the 13 1st place votes.  Interestingly, the other four votes for Deliverance were all for 3rd place.
- Wreath, By The Pain, and For Absent Friends all received at least one last place vote and no 1st place votes.
- For Absent Friends received 8 of the 13 last place votes.
- And many people were confused by the sheer awesomeness of the song, because By The Pain had 4 last place votes.

[Buddyhunter1]

Move By The Pain I See In Others up two slots and that ranking is perfect.

[Big Hath]

unfortunately the numbers are the numbers

[DebraKadabra]

- And many people were confused by the sheer awesomeness of the song, because By The Pain had 4 last place votes.

That's kind of what I'm thinking.

[Zantera]

By the Pain I see in Others is nowhere near as bad as some people make it sound. It's not one of Opeth's best, but it has a lot of great moments.

[Mladen]

I really like By the pain I see in others, but it's hard to follow up Master's apprentices, obviously. 

[seasonsinthesky]

By the Pain I see in Others is nowhere near as bad as some people make it sound. It's not one of Opeth's best, but it has a lot of great moments.

indeed it does, especially the main riff after the intro (a true bit of genius Åkerfeldt writing). however, i find the song feels long for the sake of being long, as does "Wreath." the rest of them feel appropriately paced.

[ZKX-2099]

Have they denounced Heritage and started working on an album that doesn't suck yet?