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5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0 = ?

0
32 (26.4%)
15
79 (65.3%)
20
8 (6.6%)
40
2 (1.7%)

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Voting closed: August 04, 2012, 12:54:40 PM

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2012, 01:47:03 PM »
The correct order of operations is actually:

1. Paste the equation into Wolfram Alpha, Matlab or compiled/interpreted language of your choice
2. Write down the answer it gives you.

This correctly yields the answer 15.
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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2012, 01:49:06 PM »
I accidentally inserted two imaginary parentheses...  :'(

I'm actually very good when it comes to higher level math (calculus, statistics, etc.)...
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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2012, 01:50:50 PM »
The correct order of operations is actually:

1. Paste the equation into Wolfram Alpha, Matlab or compiled/interpreted language of your choice
2. Write down the answer it gives you.

This correctly yields the answer 15.
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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2012, 01:51:38 PM »
LOL i dun goofed.. OH WELL hahaha

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2012, 01:57:57 PM »
I went with 0.  apparently I am missing something.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2012, 01:59:00 PM »
I went with 0.  apparently I am missing something.

that zero only cancels out the last 5. not every number

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2012, 01:59:58 PM »
order of operations...

parentheses exponents multiplication division addition subtraction

the 0 multiplies with the last five before the addition...

I did the same thing  :-\
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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2012, 02:06:35 PM »
15

Luckily this is less ambiguous than that other problem from a couple months ago.

EDIT: Okay. I can forgive the 20, but who answered 0?

Those of us who only saw * 0 and didn't really look at the problem.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2012, 02:23:03 PM »
15

Luckily this is less ambiguous than that other problem from a couple months ago.

EDIT: Okay. I can forgive the 20, but who answered 0?

Those of us who only saw * 0 and didn't really look at the problem.
Yeah, but if you saw the multiplication sign, you should have seen a lack of parentheses. There is no way to glance at that equation and assume the entire equation is to be multiplied by zero.
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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2012, 02:24:46 PM »
I don't think people who voted 0 were thinking of order of operations.  It's just a matter of 'Anything multiplied by zero is zero' flashing in one's brain.  I'd say the equation is meant to trick people more than anything else.
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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2012, 02:26:11 PM »
I don't think people who voted 0 were thinking of order of operations.  It's just a matter of 'Anything multiplied by zero is zero' flashing in one's brain.  I'd say the equation is meant to trick people more than anything else.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2012, 02:27:54 PM »
15

Luckily this is less ambiguous than that other problem from a couple months ago.

EDIT: Okay. I can forgive the 20, but who answered 0?

Those of us who only saw * 0 and didn't really look at the problem.
Yeah, but if you saw the multiplication sign, you should have seen a lack of parentheses. There is no way to glance at that equation and assume the entire equation is to be multiplied by zero.

apparently there is considering like 20 people went with that option. shit happens, mistakes are made. oh well.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2012, 02:29:40 PM »
15

Luckily this is less ambiguous than that other problem from a couple months ago.

 :lol

Yeah, this problem doesn't have anything to do with that one.  That one was vaguely written, but people are getting this one wrong because they're bad at math.
Actually I got it wrong because I didn't notice the zero at the end. :lol Clearly the answer is 15, but I managed to hit 20 before I realised. :faceplam:

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« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2012, 02:31:39 PM »
:faceplam:

I cannot be the only one who finds this hilarious.
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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2012, 02:33:38 PM »
:rollin Amazing.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2012, 02:56:25 PM »
 :lol
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« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2012, 02:56:56 PM »
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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2012, 03:11:54 PM »
I don't think people who voted 0 were thinking of order of operations.  It's just a matter of 'Anything multiplied by zero is zero' flashing in one's brain.  I'd say the equation is meant to trick people more than anything else.

This is exactly what I meant. Calm down MJ, not all of us are math geniuses. In fact, I'm borderline retarded at math.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2012, 03:16:08 PM »
I voted 40 just because this is a silly question.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2012, 03:21:23 PM »
I voted 40 just because this is a silly question.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2012, 03:25:44 PM »
I took math for 15 years and I've literally never heard of anything you guys are talking about. 

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2012, 03:26:42 PM »
faceplams are pretty advanced stuff.  You don't get to them until grad school.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2012, 03:28:33 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2012, 04:39:47 PM »
Unlike that other interesting arithmetic question with dodgy notation that made it more ambiguous, this one is clear, and 15 is the only correct answer.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #60 on: July 25, 2012, 04:40:42 PM »
25% percent of people voted 0.  I am confused.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #61 on: July 25, 2012, 05:14:25 PM »
25% of people think that anything times 0 is 0. No exceptions.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #62 on: July 25, 2012, 05:18:48 PM »
To be fair, in the original poll (which is here, by the way), something like 60+% voted for 0.

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« Reply #63 on: July 25, 2012, 05:22:57 PM »
It makes perfect sense. "Anything times 0 is 0" is much easier concept to remember and understand than "PEMDAS".

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« Reply #64 on: July 25, 2012, 05:23:08 PM »
25% of people think that anything times 0 is 0. No exceptions.
Howdy.  :hat

I know I'm wrong, know why I'm wrong, and know I'll make the same mistake again. But I didn't see the question and think "Here's an interesting equation, let's expand the brackets and see what comes out." I saw a string of banal equations multiplied by zero and went "Welcome to zerosville muthafuckas."

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« Reply #65 on: July 25, 2012, 05:25:27 PM »
I saw the question and thought, "Welcome to being reminded of how the average person doesn't understand math.

And I mean that in the least hostile way possible. I understand many people don't understand or care about math. As one who's always enjoyed it, it just baffles me how that can be.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #66 on: July 25, 2012, 05:30:24 PM »
25% of people think that anything times 0 is 0. No exceptions.
Well anything times zero is zero. There are no exceptions (in the real numbers of course).

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« Reply #67 on: July 25, 2012, 05:32:27 PM »
yeah, yeah. You got me there.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #68 on: July 25, 2012, 05:32:50 PM »
I'm curious what everyone thinks about dividing by zero. That's the real mindfuck.

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Re: 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 * 0
« Reply #69 on: July 25, 2012, 05:34:25 PM »
I'm curious what everyone thinks about dividing by zero.

Dividing by zero is strictly immoral.