2012-08-19/20 - Luna Park - Buenos Aires, ARG (being filmed for DVD)

[LCArenas]

This just in: James LaBrie/John Myung solos tomorrow night. Haven't heard much yet, aside from the word "scat" being thrown around.

I can just imagine it, James doing something to the effect of Clark Terry's "Mumbles"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJuFDvH8wGs

Imagine DT playing this song 

Also, Rena's watching us. WHY DIDN'T JOHN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DT'S GIG IN BOGOTA HE DIDN'T LIKE US RIGHT NEVER ENOUGH

[Ben_Jamin]

That's a great surprise, as TSM and WFS would sound great with a quartet. The same with BTS and FFH,, also gives people a reason to get the DVD.


Adami, i'm sure night 2 will have a better surprise.

[SystematicThought]

And apparently we will be blown away by the extras and such. So naturally, I am excited.

[Adami]

Oh I'm very much looking forward to hearing The Silent Man with strings......if for no other reason than I've never heard a version of it with strings. As opposed to playing a song like TALW which had strings to begin with.

[SystematicThought]

Wait, are we for sure getting strings?

[BlobVanDam]

Oh I'm very much looking forward to hearing The Silent Man with strings......if for no other reason than I've never heard a version of it with strings. As opposed to playing a song like TALW which had strings to begin with.

I think that bridge section is going to sound great with a quartet, since the original has those nice string lines there. I think that will work nicely. WFS should be interesting too. Both are very simple arrangements where an orchestra can supplement them without sounding busy.

[Adami]

I can't wait till the DVD comes out and Snake Eyes starts a thread about how James was a microtone flat on Beneath the Surface final chorus.

[Nekov]

Wait, are we for sure getting strings?

Unless they edit them out yes, we are

[Adami]

Wait, are we for sure getting strings?

Unless they edit them out yes, we are

Now that would be hilarious.

[SystematicThought]

Where did I miss the strings announcement?

[Cedar redaC]

Wait, are we for sure getting strings?

Unless they edit them out yes, we are

Now that would be hilarious.

Seconded. First I would laugh, then I would weep.

Edit: Kinda like Lil' Wayne playing guitar, but not being audible in the mix.

[ResultsMayVary]

After reading all this, I'm kind of disappointed in the surprises so far. The string quartet has kind of already been done with Orchestra on Score and the set is essentially the same thing they have been playing. I see no real surprises after show #1, imho.

I agree with Adami that I hope they play it less safe tomorrow. Let's see 'To Live Forever' and maybe 'Another Day' and hopefully they bust out a few songs that have NOT been played so far on the tour (or maybe a few that were played on the first few legs).

It seems like their 'extremely long' soundcheck (according to Mangini's FB) would be such a waste if they didn't do something crazy tomorrow (or at least different from the norm that has been the past year or so).

So far, I'm kind of disappointed. Here's to hoping night #2 can bring some crazy surprises. 

[DTFan0789]

People, Dream Theater is filming two nights at a 14,000 seat stadium in Buenos Aires for an upcoming DVD/Blu-ray release. Be happy, life is good.

[Perpetual Change]

This just in: James LaBrie/John Myung solos tomorrow night. Haven't heard much yet, aside from the word "scat" being thrown around.

I can just imagine it, James doing something to the effect of Clark Terry's "Mumbles"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJuFDvH8wGs

Imagine DT playing this song 

Also, Rena's watching us. WHY DIDN'T JOHN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DT'S GIG IN BOGOTA HE DIDN'T LIKE US RIGHT NEVER ENOUGH

We're finally gonna get that version of "Learning to Live" we've all been waiting for:














Ohooowoooaaahohhhhh....













ohoooowooooaahhH....











ohooowooaahaAAAAAA IBBLE DIBBLE DADADADOO LIBITTIY DEE DO DEE WHAAAAAAALE lee lee lu



EDIT: But seriously, I'd be cool for Nekov, if he's awake, to post a little blurb about the show. How was it? Any mishaps? How was James sounding? What was the crowd like? Etc.

[IdoSC]

There's got to be a (second recorded show) morning afterrrrr

Moreover: is there any JLB speech?

[?]

Decent setlist, although I wonder if every song will be included on the DVD after they edit both nights? Having WIMH/TTTSTA on this DVD seems a little odd considering they had the same combo on Budokan, and they had the full SDOIT with orchestra on the last full concert DVD. And TSCO? Enough said there.

In the live performances of OTBOA from this year they go straight into War/Test so they'll definitely be on the DVD unless they play OTBOA on its own the upcoming night. I agree that it'd be nice if they replaced War/Test and Spirit with something else today for the DVD but we'll see...

I kind of predicted the setlist last night wouldn't include any surprise songs but I bet/hope they'll add some especially special tune(s) there today. Well, it'll be interesting to hear TSM and BTS with strings and that's already something!

[BlobVanDam]

Decent setlist, although I wonder if every song will be included on the DVD after they edit both nights? Having WIMH/TTTSTA on this DVD seems a little odd considering they had the same combo on Budokan, and they had the full SDOIT with orchestra on the last full concert DVD. And TSCO? Enough said there.

In the live performances of OTBOA from this year they go straight into War/Test so they'll definitely be on the DVD unless they play OTBOA on its own the upcoming night. I agree that it'd be nice if they replaced War/Test and Spirit with something else today for the DVD but we'll see...

Thanks for the info. I didn't know they ran them into each other. I guess after tomorrow a lot will become clearer.

[Adami]

I haven't seen any vids for TTTSTA, but who is doing the falsetto vocals? Is it backing tracks or is someone else doing it? Or are they just not playing them?

[BlobVanDam]

I haven't seen any vids for TTTSTA, but who is doing the falsetto vocals? Is it backing tracks or is someone else doing it? Or are they just not playing them?

I just checked out a bootleg (from another show, not this one specifically), and they're using a backing tape of MP's vocals. JP isn't near the mic, so there's no mistaking it.

[Adami]

I haven't seen any vids for TTTSTA, but who is doing the falsetto vocals? Is it backing tracks or is someone else doing it? Or are they just not playing them?

I just checked out a bootleg (from another show, not this one specifically), and they're using a backing tape of MP's vocals. JP isn't near the mic, so there's no mistaking it.

Fascinating.

If they're using MP backing tracks, and also using at least one song with his lyrics......do they have to go into legal stuff about how much to pay him for his contribution to the DVD? What if he decides to be a dick (not that he will) and demand that DT not release anything features a contribution of his?

[Progmetty]

Checking in from my iPad since I won't be home til tomorrow night to see if Nekov had a kick ass time it looks like indeed he has! I can't read through the thread cause I'm dead tired so I just skimmed nekov's posts and I am so glad they kept the set list and hoping tomorrow would bring the other set list, to me this is about bringing as much of this tour that we experienced and enjoyed so much to a release we can own and relive over and over, it's about documenting this outstanding ADToE era IMO. So surprises and unexpected changes in the set list are not something I'd like to see for this particular occasion.
Man I really don't like typing on the iPad.

[Onno]

I mostly agree with Adami, they said that there would be a lot of surprises/crazy stuff and this setlists with the only different thing being the string quartets isn't really living up to my expectations, so I hope they will do something more surprising the 2nd show. At the same time, I have to say I was expecting the first night to have more of a standard setlist than the second one. Just hoping for Learning to Live 

[MoraWintersoul]

This was a bit anticlimactic but also expected. I'm happy with this setlist, more or less; it's all good songs, even if there are repetitions, because, you know, we're not the only ones who are going to buy this DVD.

If you're going to think of the casual fans, it's better to have actual songs from IAW and WDADU than To Live Forever/Don't Look Past Me; it's better to have two shorter, rockier tracks from Awake than one Scarred or even SDV, as treasured as they are in this fanbase (and not treasured by all, at all!); it's understandable that they're including TSCO in it, since that's becoming one of their "signatures"; it's not good, but it's also understandable that they decided to include the only fast-paced minutes of SDOIT outside of those 13 in TGP. And also, this is the concert that everyone's been seeing, more or less, this tour; and for us who haven't seen it, this should slightly make it up for it.

In short, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept the rarities to YJR from now on, though I'm still hoping there would be a surprise or two tonight.

[Perpetual Change]

I haven't seen any vids for TTTSTA, but who is doing the falsetto vocals? Is it backing tracks or is someone else doing it? Or are they just not playing them?

I just checked out a bootleg (from another show, not this one specifically), and they're using a backing tape of MP's vocals. JP isn't near the mic, so there's no mistaking it.

Fascinating.

If they're using MP backing tracks, and also using at least one song with his lyrics......do they have to go into legal stuff about how much to pay him for his contribution to the DVD? What if he decides to be a dick (not that he will) and demand that DT not release anything features a contribution of his?

Maybe they'll cut out MP's backing track, and let the crazy Argentineans handle it on the DVD.

But, upon further listen, I don't think it's MP's voice on the backing track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIs9ckfWw1Y

Does that sound like Mike? Not really, I don't think. It sounds like John, actually. He's just not bothering to pretend to be singing it for real. 

[Spacebar.]

People, Dream Theater is filming two nights at a 14,000 seat stadium in Buenos Aires for an upcoming DVD/Blu-ray release. Be happy, life is good.

[BlobVanDam]

But, upon further listen, I don't think it's MP's voice on the backing track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIs9ckfWw1Y

Does that sound like Mike? Not really, I don't think. It sounds like John, actually. He's just not bothering to pretend to be singing it for real. 

I actually can't really tell from bootleg quality, and I'm not that familiar with what JP's falsetto would sound like. But it would seem pretty silly to me to get JP to sing a vocal to trigger instead of actually singing it live. While it's not what I'd call an easy guitar part, I don't see why he couldn't play the guitar part and sing it too. Even if it's not perfect, that's what a live show is supposed to be.

[Adami]

Does that sound like Mike? Not really, I don't think. It sounds like John, actually. He's just not bothering to pretend to be singing it for real. 

Actually it might even be JLB on backing tracks for the falsetto part.


And good god, did JLB just leave before one of the chorus's and skip it?

[nikatapi]

Pretty awesome they got strings on the stage for the acoustic interlude, i'm sure we'll get more surprises on the second night, and don't forget the potential for extra material on the dvd, like backstage documentary etc.

I'm very excited just for the ADTOE songs and it's amazing that we are getting all the album in a live version, i think this happened only with the Live Scenes album?

Just hoping they get a good sound and mixing, i want to hear MM's drums loud and clear, CiM was quite low quality both picture and sound wise.

[wasteland]

And good god, did JLB just leave before one of the chorus's and skip it?

It was the first show the song was being played. Maybe he just plainly forgot the part.

[Perpetual Change]

Does that sound like Mike? Not really, I don't think. It sounds like John, actually. He's just not bothering to pretend to be singing it for real. 

Actually it might even be JLB on backing tracks for the falsetto part.


And good god, did JLB just leave before one of the chorus's and skip it?

I was talking about the vocals in "War Inside My Head". Didn't sound like Mike.

And yeah, according to the uploader, JLB came out afterwards and apologized. He was choking. You can hear it in the prechorus actually.

[Adami]

Oh it's cool. I don't mind weird goofy stuff like that.


And on War Inside My Head.........I dunno that actually seemed like JP. And I wouldn't be surprised if he were singing them live.

[Onno]

Does that sound like Mike? Not really, I don't think. It sounds like John, actually. He's just not bothering to pretend to be singing it for real. 

Actually it might even be JLB on backing tracks for the falsetto part.


And good god, did JLB just leave before one of the chorus's and skip it?

Yeah he did, but it's actually in the comments. "Labrie was actually choking to his own spit. After he came back he apologized for not finishing the song"

[wasteland]

I expected nothing more for last night. Usually it's the second night to be stuffed with surprises and oddballs. Clearly the string quartet cannot be accounted for the whole lot of "stellar surprises" that has been promised.

[Zydar]

Nice touch though, with the string section.

[GasparXR]

I think it would be really cool if TROAE was the encore for tomorrow, and they can use the ending they made for the 2012 European leg. It would be like closing the show with Octavarium since it is after all, a reprise of the main theme, and is really grandoise.