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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #735 on: March 22, 2010, 02:22:33 PM »
Instead of a new health care bill, Congress should be working to enact a law that says a person must be intelligent, educated, and legally sane in order to quote Cicero. 
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« Reply #736 on: March 22, 2010, 02:36:30 PM »
Even if some do, people should start looking for the best option and not for better options. I mean, you guys used to have the best medical treatment and the great majority found it affordable. Those who couldn't, found a helping hand with charity. What I find baffling is why people aren't asking why.
I think everybody knows why.  All aspects of the industry have become incredibly expensive because all of the people within it are trying to get rich.  Doctors, hospitals, big pharm, lawyers, insurance companies. An entire subset of civilization, all trying to get rich off of humanities interest in staying alive.  When it was nothing more than a doctor who wanted to treat people, of course it was affordable.  The days of doctors taking livestock for payment are long past.  They all want to be driving Porsches now. 
You really think that it's because they want to be driving a fancy car that costs have risen up?

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« Reply #737 on: March 22, 2010, 02:42:03 PM »
Even if some do, people should start looking for the best option and not for better options. I mean, you guys used to have the best medical treatment and the great majority found it affordable. Those who couldn't, found a helping hand with charity. What I find baffling is why people aren't asking why.
I think everybody knows why.  All aspects of the industry have become incredibly expensive because all of the people within it are trying to get rich.  Doctors, hospitals, big pharm, lawyers, insurance companies. An entire subset of civilization, all trying to get rich off of humanities interest in staying alive.  When it was nothing more than a doctor who wanted to treat people, of course it was affordable.  The days of doctors taking livestock for payment are long past.  They all want to be driving Porsches now. 
You really think that it's because they want to be driving a fancy car that costs have risen up?
Of course that was a generalization, but I absolutely believe that the motivation of most doctors has changed from altruism to prestige and money. 
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #738 on: March 22, 2010, 04:31:17 PM »
Of the ones I personally know, the vast majority couldn't care less about prestige.  Money, perhaps.  But not at the expense of their patients.  Many feel entitled to make good money because of (1) the amount of time, effort, and money it took them to get to be a doctor in the first place; (2) the amount of time, stress, and personal commitment they put into their work; and (3) they have to spend an obscene amount of money on malpractice insurance because the odds are they will be sued multiple times for malpractice during their careers whether they actually commit malpractice or not.
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« Reply #739 on: March 24, 2010, 10:51:31 AM »
George W. Bush doing his thing as always V. Haitians.

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« Reply #740 on: March 24, 2010, 02:48:43 PM »
George W. Bush doing his thing as always V. Haitians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DtwkTS9mq8

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Gotta say, wiping his hand on Clinton's sleeve was pretty slick. 
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« Reply #742 on: March 25, 2010, 12:19:20 PM »
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« Reply #744 on: April 04, 2010, 02:38:13 PM »
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« Reply #745 on: April 04, 2010, 02:52:44 PM »
Of the ones I personally know, the vast majority couldn't care less about prestige.  Money, perhaps.  But not at the expense of their patients.  Many feel entitled to make good money because of (1) the amount of time, effort, and money it took them to get to be a doctor in the first place; (2) the amount of time, stress, and personal commitment they put into their work; and (3) they have to spend an obscene amount of money on malpractice insurance because the odds are they will be sued multiple times for malpractice during their careers whether they actually commit malpractice or not.
Great post.  I have a number of friends becoming MD's and I can't think of a single one that is doing it for money or prestige.  The dedication they must have to have in order to finish all of their phases of training has to be incredible.  Now, some of the friends they've made in med school are pompous asses, but we can all meet that kind of person all over.

I think it is unfair to judge doctors so negatively.  They put so much time and effort into their field that if they don't actually have some sort of altruistic base their life must be miserable.  Money and prestige aren't going to make someone happy when their life is so closely attached to their job.

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« Reply #746 on: April 04, 2010, 03:55:53 PM »
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« Reply #747 on: April 05, 2010, 04:20:54 AM »
I've spoken to a person who is becoming a doctor for the money. He laughed at me for studying computing science as I wouldn't get near as enough money as he would.

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« Reply #748 on: April 05, 2010, 07:27:41 AM »
I've spoken to a person who is becoming a doctor for the money. He laughed at me for studying computing science as I wouldn't get near as enough money as he would.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #749 on: April 06, 2010, 01:51:22 AM »
"Man Attempts to Assassinate President Obama, 'But Not Because He's Black or Anything'"

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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #750 on: April 06, 2010, 02:30:26 PM »
I wouldn't want to imply that all doctors care more about money than their patient's well being; I'm sure that's not the case.  My Dr. isn't raking in the dough, and I'm positive he genuinely cares about my health.  What I do think is that people trying to figure out what to do with their life don't suddenly go "I want to help total strangers for the rest of my life."  The money and the prestige are a big part the decision to become a doctor in the first place.

Riddle me this.  If doctors are still practicing for truly altruistic reasons, why is so much of America under-served?  People in bum-fuck Nevada have terrible access to medical treatment.  The people working in hospitals up there are the altruists.  They're working for next to nothing and living in the asshole of America.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #751 on: April 16, 2010, 03:08:40 PM »
So my conservative cousin posted this video: https://www.spike.com/video/brilliant-woman/3212215 on his facebook, with the comment, "this is the best and brightest in CA, and if its not obvious enough, she is a democrat."

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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #752 on: April 17, 2010, 12:09:44 PM »
Dude, there's a chat thread here?



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« Reply #753 on: April 17, 2010, 06:03:21 PM »
So my conservative cousin posted this video: https://www.spike.com/video/brilliant-woman/3212215 on his facebook, with the comment, "this is the best and brightest in CA, and if its not obvious enough, she is a democrat."

I hate him.
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« Reply #754 on: April 18, 2010, 08:45:55 PM »
I'm watching our presidential debates and it's :corn:

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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #755 on: April 21, 2010, 02:05:37 PM »
I doubt anybody cares, but the Dutch elections are going to be pretty interesting...

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« Reply #757 on: April 22, 2010, 08:11:13 PM »
I doubt anybody cares, but the Dutch elections are going to be pretty interesting...
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« Reply #758 on: April 22, 2010, 08:16:17 PM »
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« Reply #759 on: April 26, 2010, 05:34:59 AM »
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« Reply #761 on: May 06, 2010, 02:56:23 PM »
Now that was a fun market plunge!

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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #762 on: May 07, 2010, 04:22:53 PM »
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/06/rolando-negrin-full-body_n_566465.html

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TSA screener Rolando Negrin is facing assault charges in a case that involves the controversial, full body scanners being adopted in airports as part of increased security measures.

The images produced by the powerful x-ray scanners--detailed enough to show breast implants--have been compared to "virtual strip-searching."

Negrin reportedly passed through the screener during a training session on how to use the device, and the revealing x-ray image of him produced by the x-ray prompted teasing from coworkers, "who joked about the size of the man's genitalia," reports The Smoking Gun.

The Smoking Gun adds,
"The X-ray revealed that [Negrin] has a small penis and co-workers made fun of him on a daily basis," reported cops. Following his arrest, Negrin told police that he "could not take the jokes anymore and lost his mind.


Negrin allegedly confronted his colleague, Hugo Osorno, in a parking lot after work and assaulted him with a police baton while demanding an apology.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #763 on: May 07, 2010, 04:33:24 PM »
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/06/rolando-negrin-full-body_n_566465.html

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TSA screener Rolando Negrin is facing assault charges in a case that involves the controversial, full body scanners being adopted in airports as part of increased security measures.

The images produced by the powerful x-ray scanners--detailed enough to show breast implants--have been compared to "virtual strip-searching."

Negrin reportedly passed through the screener during a training session on how to use the device, and the revealing x-ray image of him produced by the x-ray prompted teasing from coworkers, "who joked about the size of the man's genitalia," reports The Smoking Gun.

The Smoking Gun adds,
"The X-ray revealed that [Negrin] has a small penis and co-workers made fun of him on a daily basis," reported cops. Following his arrest, Negrin told police that he "could not take the jokes anymore and lost his mind.


Negrin allegedly confronted his colleague, Hugo Osorno, in a parking lot after work and assaulted him with a police baton while demanding an apology.
I was gonna set that guy's mugshot up as my wallpaper at the shop.  While the story itself is funny as hell, the picture is absolutely priceless.  You can just look at him and tell A. he's got a little dick, and B.  he has absolutely no sense of humor about it whatsoever.  He looks exactly what the person in the story should look like. 
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #764 on: May 07, 2010, 04:51:57 PM »
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/06/rolando-negrin-full-body_n_566465.html

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TSA screener Rolando Negrin is facing assault charges in a case that involves the controversial, full body scanners being adopted in airports as part of increased security measures.

The images produced by the powerful x-ray scanners--detailed enough to show breast implants--have been compared to "virtual strip-searching."

Negrin reportedly passed through the screener during a training session on how to use the device, and the revealing x-ray image of him produced by the x-ray prompted teasing from coworkers, "who joked about the size of the man's genitalia," reports The Smoking Gun.

The Smoking Gun adds,
"The X-ray revealed that [Negrin] has a small penis and co-workers made fun of him on a daily basis," reported cops. Following his arrest, Negrin told police that he "could not take the jokes anymore and lost his mind.


Negrin allegedly confronted his colleague, Hugo Osorno, in a parking lot after work and assaulted him with a police baton while demanding an apology.
I was gonna set that guy's mugshot up as my wallpaper at the shop.  While the story itself is funny as hell, the picture is absolutely priceless.  You can just look at him and tell A. he's got a little dick, and B.  he has absolutely no sense of humor about it whatsoever.  He looks exactly what the person in the story should look like.  


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Nevermind...
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« Reply #765 on: May 09, 2010, 03:25:53 PM »
I was gonna set that guy's mugshot up as my wallpaper at the shop.  While the story itself is funny as hell, the picture is absolutely priceless.  You can just look at him and tell A. he's got a little dick, and B.  he has absolutely no sense of humor about it whatsoever.  He looks exactly what the person in the story should look like. 

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« Reply #766 on: May 10, 2010, 05:38:43 AM »
Just as I thought I finally understood what Agnostic means that guy says "Athiests who hate our heavenly father and Agnostics who're aren't sure if they hate our heavenly father"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P47OC439x88
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« Reply #767 on: May 12, 2010, 06:27:33 PM »
Millahh - your inbox is full

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« Reply #768 on: May 13, 2010, 02:23:42 PM »
Hey, zerogravityfat, what's the deal between Greece and Turkey?
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