Author Topic: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2 (Read 339566 times)

Scheavo · « **Reply #1435 on:** February 16, 2012, 01:46:58 PM »

Quote from: kirksnosehair on February 16, 2012, 01:31:00 PM

Quote from: Vivace on February 16, 2012, 01:20:03 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 12, 2012, 04:24:44 AM
*snipped*

One of my biggest questions on this whole thing (which I completely side with the RCC on) is what exactly does it mean that woman cannot control their reproductive health because of someone else's beliefs? Maybe I'm just ignorant to a woman's reproductive system but what exactly does a pill do that is better than sexual abstinence in general? It just seems the problem exists because of a social issue we have created.

Not sure if seriously asking what the pill does compared to abstinence? How about it allows my 48 year old wife and I to enjoy an intimate sex life without having to worry about her getting pregnant at her age and without us having to diminish our enjoyment of the experience because I have a hunk of latex covering my johnson?

Let's start there.

I'm pretty sure there's been a variety of health benefits from taking hormonal birth control. It's not just about not getting pregnant, though that's obviously a main one.

https://www.nytimes.com/ref/health/healthguide/esn-contraception-ess.html

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Studies have shown that all those methods reduce the risk of ovarian and endometrial cancer. Some may also help protect against osteoporosis.

Using contraception can also give women a chance to get healthy before they conceive — to stop smoking, lose weight or lower their blood sugar.

If those reasons aren’t enough, ads for pills like Yaz cite beautiful skin and relief from premenstrual bloating and mood swings.

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #1436 on:** February 16, 2012, 01:49:37 PM »

^I'm well aware of that, and it's one of the reasons my wife has been on the pill for close to 30 years.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1437 on:** February 16, 2012, 01:51:16 PM »

So actually, now that secondary benefits have been mentioned, I should mention there are some women whose periods are so severe that in the absence of a birth control pill, menstruation is excruciatingly painful. For some it can be so severe that it causes them to vomit whenever they go on their period, or worse.

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #1438 on:** February 16, 2012, 02:08:07 PM »

Quote from: Super Dude on February 16, 2012, 01:51:16 PM

So actually, now that secondary benefits have been mentioned, I should mention there are some women whose periods are so severe that in the absence of a birth control pill, menstruation is excruciatingly painful. For some it can be so severe that it causes them to vomit whenever they go on their period, or worse.

You could swap out "some women" with "Mrs. NoseHair" here. That was a big problem for her in the early 90's when she came off the pill for a while due to some other medical issues. Getting back on the pill deal and it brought an incredible amount of relief.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1439 on:** February 16, 2012, 02:26:30 PM »

It also helps with something called endometriosis, and without the use of the pill, those afflicted could potentially become infertile. The pill delays the process long enough until they're old enough to receive actual treatment.

Scheavo · « **Reply #1440 on:** February 16, 2012, 03:32:23 PM »

Quote from: kirksnosehair on February 16, 2012, 01:49:37 PM

^I'm well aware of that, and it's one of the reasons my wife has been on the pill for close to 30 years.

I was chirping in, not rebutting.

jsem · « **Reply #1441 on:** February 16, 2012, 05:00:30 PM »

This whole contraception debate really is distracting from the key issue here.

Government mandates are just wrong. It relies on the use of force, i.e there's always a gun behind a government law, to solve a supposed problem. Government coercing insurance companies to cover birth control is just wrong, there's no reason they shouldn't pay for it themselves - or have private donors paying for it.

wolfandwolfandwolf · « **Reply #1442 on:** February 21, 2012, 08:52:55 PM »

Quote from: jsem on February 16, 2012, 05:00:30 PM

This whole contraception debate really is distracting from the key issue here.

Government mandates are just wrong. It relies on the use of force, i.e there's always a gun behind a government law, to solve a supposed problem. Government coercing insurance companies to cover birth control is just wrong, there's no reason they shouldn't pay for it themselves - or have private donors paying for it.

This is easily the best and most balanced thought I've seen on the issue. I missed the forest for the trees on this thing entirely and got pissy that people were bothered about the morality issue of birth control. What you're saying is something else entirely that I'm ashamed I hadn't even thought of.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1443 on:** February 26, 2012, 06:42:32 AM »

God, liberals are insane.

chknptpie · « **Reply #1444 on:** February 26, 2012, 09:45:51 AM »

antigoon · « **Reply #1445 on:** February 26, 2012, 09:46:35 AM »

dont be bringing god into this bro

Super Dude · « **Reply #1446 on:** February 26, 2012, 05:43:42 PM »

Quote from: chknptpie on February 26, 2012, 09:45:51 AM

wha?

https://www.facebook.com/events/260033744071085/

And I know not everyone agrees with me here on this issue, but there has to be a more moderate way of doing this. And I just thought they were all being huge jerks.

Adami · « **Reply #1447 on:** February 26, 2012, 05:55:01 PM »

Quote from: Super Dude on February 26, 2012, 05:43:42 PM

Quote from: chknptpie on February 26, 2012, 09:45:51 AM
wha?

https://www.facebook.com/events/260033744071085/

And I know not everyone agrees with me here on this issue, but there has to be a more moderate way of doing this. And I just thought they were all being huge jerks.

I'm sure it will accomplish a lot. I know Bibi doesn't listen to his own citizens or the Palestinians in the slightest, but I'm sure a few Brandies idiots will get his attention. I look forward to all of my countries problems being solved thanks to this brave and original group.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1448 on:** February 26, 2012, 06:08:24 PM »

Oh I realize all that, I'm just sorta peeved about the principle of the whole thing. You'll take my meaning once you read comments by myself, Michelle and Michael and some of the responses tied to them.

Scheavo · « **Reply #1449 on:** February 29, 2012, 05:58:58 PM »

Apparently birthirism is coming back.

Riceball · « **Reply #1450 on:** February 29, 2012, 11:27:15 PM »

..................che?

Scheavo · « **Reply #1451 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:28:04 AM »

Some (mostly white) people don't seem to be able to accept that Obama is a citizen, and legally allowed to be President. Sherrif Joe formed a posse to investigate it, and they're promising results.

Riceball · « **Reply #1452 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:47:59 AM »

Wow.

Australian politics is pretty...silly...most of the time, but thats very silly.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1453 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:05:26 AM »

Because apparently we still haven't laid this one to rest either....

I'm sure I'm pointing out the obvious here, but I think we've found the new JFK assassination.

Nick · « **Reply #1454 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:55:17 AM »

Well I know 160 A/E specialists who should lose their license for incompetence...

antigoon · « **Reply #1455 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:33:12 AM »

So apparently Andrew Breitbart died...

Super Dude · « **Reply #1456 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:34:45 AM »

Excuse my ignorance, but who?

antigoon · « **Reply #1457 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:40:17 AM »

nut job sensationalist blogger

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/01/andrew-breitbart-dies-natural-causes-website-reports/

wolfandwolfandwolf · « **Reply #1458 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:54:02 AM »

Random. Guy was still pretty young. I first heard of him when Weinergate broke.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1459 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:55:00 AM »

They're seriously calling it Weinergate? Wow.

antigoon · « **Reply #1460 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:55:56 AM »

my weinergate is kept well guarded at all times

wolfandwolfandwolf · « **Reply #1461 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:56:51 AM »

No...I called it that.

EDIT:

Quote from: antigoon on March 01, 2012, 08:55:56 AM

my weinergate is kept well guarded at all times

Lol'd pretty hard at that.

Ħ · « **Reply #1462 on:** March 01, 2012, 05:26:23 PM »

What's the best way to stay on top of current events? I've always been terrible at this. I don't even know any of the positions of the presidential candidates.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1463 on:** March 01, 2012, 05:34:19 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on March 01, 2012, 05:26:23 PM

What's the best way to stay on top of current events? I've always been terrible at this. I don't even know any of the positions of the presidential candidates.

Watch the news, or read news websites.

El Barto · « **Reply #1464 on:** March 01, 2012, 05:39:47 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on March 01, 2012, 05:26:23 PM

What's the best way to stay on top of current events? I've always been terrible at this. I don't even know any of the positions of the presidential candidates.

I set up my browser start page (iGoogle) with a ton of RSS feeds. Currently:
CNN
Reuters
Google's top stories (draws form all sources, including podunk town newspapers)
FOX
Wired
Techdirt
ESPN
Some entertainment thing

It's constantly updating with current headlines, allowing you to read whatever article looks like it'd interest you. I set each feed up for 5 headlines, except the Google top stories which is 8 or 9.

I've also go a half dozen or so search boxes, plus some other crap like weather and Cracked/The Onion/TED Talks, etc.

j · « **Reply #1465 on:** March 01, 2012, 05:44:05 PM »

Quote from: El Barto on March 01, 2012, 05:39:47 PM

Quote from: Ħ on March 01, 2012, 05:26:23 PM
What's the best way to stay on top of current events? I've always been terrible at this. I don't even know any of the positions of the presidential candidates.
I set up my browser start page (iGoogle) with a ton of RSS feeds. Currently:
CNN
Reuters
Google's top stories (draws form all sources, including podunk town newspapers)
FOX
Wired
Techdirt
ESPN
Some entertainment thing

It's constantly updating with current headlines, allowing you to read whatever article looks like it'd interest you. I set each feed up for 5 headlines, except the Google top stories which is 8 or 9.

I've also go a half dozen or so search boxes, plus some other crap like weather and Cracked/The Onion/TED Talks, etc.

I do something similar for a small handful of sites. And for sites I don't care to have immediate feeds from, I just have them bookmarked and I'll look over those when I'm checking my e-mail or have some down time.

-J

GuineaPig · « **Reply #1466 on:** March 01, 2012, 06:18:56 PM »

Quote from: El Barto on March 01, 2012, 05:39:47 PM

Quote from: Ħ on March 01, 2012, 05:26:23 PM
What's the best way to stay on top of current events? I've always been terrible at this. I don't even know any of the positions of the presidential candidates.
I set up my browser start page (iGoogle) with a ton of RSS feeds. Currently:
CNN
Reuters
Google's top stories (draws form all sources, including podunk town newspapers)
FOX
Wired
Techdirt
ESPN
Some entertainment thing

It's constantly updating with current headlines, allowing you to read whatever article looks like it'd interest you. I set each feed up for 5 headlines, except the Google top stories which is 8 or 9.

I've also go a half dozen or so search boxes, plus some other crap like weather and Cracked/The Onion/TED Talks, etc.

Not the BBC?

snapple · « **Reply #1467 on:** March 01, 2012, 06:32:41 PM »

Fuck Brits

El Barto · « **Reply #1468 on:** March 01, 2012, 06:36:31 PM »

Quote from: snapple on March 01, 2012, 06:32:41 PM

Fuck Brits

First thing I thought of.

The BBC and al Jazeera will pop up on the Google feed somewhat regularly. I kind of had to balance the amount of information on there with the amount that I'd pay attention to. I've already got 3 columns and it takes 3 pages worth of scrolling to see it all. I tried to cover the ideological spectrum with CNN, Reuters and FOX, and the google mish-mash fills in the gaps.

AcidLameLTE · « **Reply #1469 on:** March 02, 2012, 04:14:32 AM »

Don't worry, I don't read any American news sites

News: Video of online chat between fans and members of Dream Theater: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx8cLlXnHpA&feature=youtu.be (*no chickens were harmed during the filming of this chat)

Author Topic: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2 (Read 339566 times)