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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1295 on: November 24, 2011, 08:45:46 PM »
Ah, my bad. :P
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1296 on: November 25, 2011, 08:54:25 AM »
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1297 on: November 25, 2011, 09:02:29 AM »
Quote from: antigoon on November 23, 2011, 11:10:39 PM
Do we have a war thread? Thought this article was interesting. The US is trying to lift the UN ban on cluster bombs, apparently. 

https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/22/us-pushing-un-cluster-bombs
Cluster bombs are actually pretty damned useful.  I can see arguing for their continued use, but only if you start adding secondary fuses to them so that one way or the other, every munition blows up after it's deployed.  It'd probably also be wise to start making them look different than the food rations we often times drop for civvies. 
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1298 on: November 25, 2011, 12:45:43 PM »
Quote from: MasterShakezula on November 25, 2011, 08:54:25 AM
https://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-17/justice/justice_dc-white-house-shooting_1_white-house-initial-court-hearing-assassination?_s=PM:JUSTICE

I'm surprised no one's posted this here, as of yet.

The picture they send out of the guy makes him look half sane, but when you see video of the guy talking, he's clearly unstable.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1299 on: November 26, 2011, 08:36:22 AM »
I knew the U.S voted against admitting Palestine into the UNESCO but I didn't know it was gonna make a donation and canceled it because of this. That was so low. I only found out from this Egyptian Political show, the Egyptian Stephen Colbert if you will, it's in Arabic but you can see the slut @ 3:16 and the sheer fucktard expressions while she announces the fund cut. https://youtu.be/vCxw2YsWhtA
If you keep watching til the end you'll notice that it's not even the point he's trying to make; his point is the wealthy Arabian Gulf countries are spending so much insane amounts of money on so much nonsense although they could have proved to the UNESCO in a great stand that we won't all collapse just cause the U.S lobbyists have horns and breath fire. So the blame here really is on the Arab countries.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1300 on: November 26, 2011, 12:14:08 PM »
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1301 on: November 26, 2011, 01:01:15 PM »
As usual. The statistics game.
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« Reply #1302 on: November 26, 2011, 01:01:43 PM »
It's moronic.  There's no justification for it.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1303 on: November 26, 2011, 02:21:38 PM »
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Sure makes me glad my town told cops they have to address anything and everything before they deal with pot. They don't always follow it, but they also have trouble seating juries for it anyways.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1304 on: November 27, 2011, 09:51:39 PM »
Read this on another forum, in response to that Senate bill allowing home deployment:

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I read about this yesterday. Obama's gotta be drooling with all of the power he's soon to be getting. Not only can he kill American citizens without due process, now he can do it on our own turf and even imprison them if he wants.

There's a good chance I'll be on one of his lists for speaking the truth and posing a threat to him.

That bottom part... :lolpalm:
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1305 on: November 27, 2011, 10:22:41 PM »
Bender: What is this the Middle Ages?
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1306 on: November 27, 2011, 11:35:29 PM »
I've gotta be on a list somewhere for buying this book for class a few years ago :lol
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1307 on: November 29, 2011, 05:19:24 PM »
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/29/senate-defies-obama-veto-threat-terrorist-custody-/


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Defying a veto threat from President Obama, the Senate voted Tuesday to preserve language that would give the U.S. military a crack at al Qaeda operatives captured in the U.S., even if they are American citizens.

The White House and its Senate allies objected and tried to block the changes, instead calling for the issue to be studied further.

They argued giving the military priority could complicate investigations into terrorist suspects in the U.S., and said it opens the door to indefinite military detention of U.S. citizens.

Not sure if the defense of Habeus Corpus is sincere, but I think this is an example of one area where McCain and Obama might have come to different conclusions.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1308 on: November 29, 2011, 05:58:39 PM »
Good to see Obama is trying to fight this one. See? He ain't all bad.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1309 on: December 01, 2011, 08:02:43 AM »
I think the Obama Administration just doesn't want the military messing with its executive authority in those areas.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1310 on: December 01, 2011, 08:20:10 AM »
I suspect that their rationale is exactly what the quote says.  The federales have already given themselves the right to do whateverthehell they want to American citizens,  whenever and however they want.  There's no need to try and move that authority over to the military, as people would balk about it (which they should have done 10 years ago).  It would just be a huge layer of complication in a situation that already favors them greatly.

I'm surprised that the Republicans don't get that, as they're the ones who should be so happy about the decimation of habeas corpus.   I suspect that they're just trying to put forth a "strong on terror" front, and involving the military,  useful or otherwise,  is a good way to go about it.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1311 on: December 01, 2011, 08:43:33 AM »
Yes, thanks for expanding.

Also, I don't know what took me this long (3 years) but I've finally unsubscribed from Obama's campaign emails. The one that did it was an email I just got from the First Lady saying that if I donated $30 or something like that I could be entered into a contest to have dinner with her and the President. No thank you :lol

edit: it was $3, not $30.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1312 on: December 01, 2011, 09:43:39 AM »
Hey,  I think he's a crappy president,  but I'd be all over a dinner at the White House. 
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1313 on: December 01, 2011, 10:18:56 AM »
I don't know what I would talk to him about. I feel like it would be extremely uncomfortable and awkward for me.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1314 on: December 01, 2011, 11:23:00 AM »
Ask him what it's like being black. 

Seriously,  you'd be one of 20 guests.  I doubt you'd get much conversation time with the guy.  My guess is that you'd spend more time talking to the girl scout sitting next to you that sold the most cookies that year. 
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« Reply #1315 on: December 01, 2011, 11:42:20 AM »
:lol I'd just go on behalf of EPICVIEW and ask how his buddies Alinsky, Wright, Soros, and Uncle Odinga are doing.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1316 on: December 01, 2011, 11:58:03 AM »
Quote from: antigoon on December 01, 2011, 11:42:20 AM
:lol I'd just go on behalf of EPICVIEW and ask how his buddies Alinsky, Wright, Soros, and Uncle Odinga are doing.

CIA has now made it impossible for you to win this raffle...  :lol
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1317 on: December 01, 2011, 11:59:36 AM »
:lol Oh ALSO, I'll need to see that birth certificate in person
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1318 on: December 01, 2011, 02:15:08 PM »
Quote from: antigoon on December 01, 2011, 08:02:43 AM
I think the Obama Administration just doesn't want the military messing with its executive authority in those areas.

This doesn't make sense to me though... Obama is the Commander in Chief, so how is giving the military priority in any way undermine Obama's authority?
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« Reply #1319 on: December 01, 2011, 02:53:36 PM »
It would undermine his executive authority.  He's got everything he wants right now in terms of the ability to hose us all,  and trying to expand that to the military would raise flags, suspicions, objections,  and basically just more attention that he wants or needs. 
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« Reply #1320 on: December 01, 2011, 03:37:37 PM »
But it's still under his executive authority? I'm obviously missing something hear. Undermining his authority would be to give this power to Congress, not give it to Obama in a different way.

I think the bill would be damaging in other ways, but not becuase it "undermines" Obama's authority. He would still have authority over the cases, he would still be able to authoritatively decide how the cases would be handled, etc.
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« Reply #1321 on: December 01, 2011, 04:03:17 PM »
What I'm saying is that I think adding a whole new layer of complication and scrutiny to the powers he already has would weaken and jeopardize them.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1322 on: December 01, 2011, 05:34:33 PM »
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1323 on: December 03, 2011, 07:39:54 AM »
If anyone would like a lighthearted look back, here's This Land by JibJab, back from the '04 elections:

https://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/this_land
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« Reply #1324 on: December 03, 2011, 10:59:16 AM »
It's weird to think about how popular that video was back then :lol
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1325 on: December 08, 2011, 09:41:19 AM »
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1326 on: December 08, 2011, 11:23:29 AM »
"Partial remains" ... does that mean like someone's cremated leg, another persons cremated arm... and things along those lines?
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1327 on: December 08, 2011, 04:53:33 PM »
The Allied American forces did that to corpses they found at the concentration and death camps. The reason for that was sanitation, don't know if it applies here but possibly.
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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1328 on: December 09, 2011, 12:15:38 PM »
And if y'all want something else to chew on for a bit:

https://www.cnbc.com/id/45612773/

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Re: The P/R-side Chat Thread v.2
« Reply #1329 on: December 09, 2011, 01:07:25 PM »
'cos he's a huge fucking douchebag :lol
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