Theseoafs, I'm not relying upon any sort of weak historical assessment for my opposition to same-sex marriage (at least certainly not in my recent few posts). I'm not interested in diving into a desperate siege-thy-wikipedia-for-historical-occurrences-that-would-support-my-idea-of-marriage routine. What I am arguing is completely independent of historical examples and concerns itself with natural teleology and natural law, encapsulated within the confines of a more broader, metaphysical framework and discussion. These "but wait, in Spain in the 1340's, a lot of people married because of x" not only does not affect the proper, principal understanding of marriage, but also does nothing to justify same-sex "marriage" in any kind metaphysical foundation (indeed you can't).