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Offline Scheavo

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Re: Gay Marriage Is Nothing To Fear, Bishops Say
« Reply #280 on: May 01, 2012, 10:50:56 PM »
Never said love equals procreation, but it is a vital and necessary part to properly raise a child to fit in with society.

As we've been over, and as you've agreed, "procreation" is more than simply impregnating another human being.

The obligations upon procreation extend further than just birthing a new member of our species, yes, but the main goal of procreation is the generation of a new member of our species, and you'd be unreasonable to deny that. You're losing sight of the primary objective of procreation in an attempt to somehow bridge over the term "procreation" as something that a same-sex couple "could" "do" or "participate in" when by its very principle such a feat would be impossible.

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Gay couples can also still impregnate and become pregnant, as I've also demonstrated (though, not by each other, at least not quite yet*...). So even ignoring the definition of marriage as ONLY ensuring the next generation exists survives, ensuring the next generation is something gay couples, and gay married couples, can partake in.

Exactly, a same-sex couple cannot, in principle, procreate. Hence marriage cannot be something that can be extended to them any more than the right to be recognized as a lizard can be granted to another human, any more than the law of gravity can be repealed.

You're losing the forest for a tree. Individually, gay couples may be not be able to do exactly as you say. However, we live in a society, one where there will be orphans and other persons who could use an adoption - which ties in with abortion - which is where gay and homosexual couples can fill a societal need.

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Re: Gay Marriage Is Nothing To Fear, Bishops Say
« Reply #281 on: May 01, 2012, 11:18:42 PM »
It is amazing how one holds to a definition of marriage that has been shown to be historically and factually incorrect.
Oh shit, you're right!

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Re: Gay Marriage Is Nothing To Fear, Bishops Say
« Reply #282 on: May 01, 2012, 11:25:58 PM »
since we are a democracy, the votes for closing this thread win.

goodnight all