"HD" versions of SC and BC&SL

[Full Speed]

I'm interested in getting the HDtracks of ADTOE, but can anyone say how much better the quality is from the regular CD version? Is it worth it?

I found it much better and thought it was well worth it (never listen to the actual CD anymore).

[PixelDream]

I think it's pretty nonsensical to put out HD versions. I mean, just put it on the regular disc with a decent master.

[Zydar]

I'm interested in getting the HDtracks of ADTOE, but can anyone say how much better the quality is from the regular CD version? Is it worth it?

I found it much better and thought it was well worth it (never listen to the actual CD anymore).

Great, I'll be sure to get it. Thanks!

[goo-goo]

I'm interested in getting the HDtracks of ADTOE, but can anyone say how much better the quality is from the regular CD version? Is it worth it?

I dont' have a surround system or anything like that. I bought them and ripped them to a 320 mp3. The only notable difference I hear is the snare sound. It sounds a bit higher in the mix (as well as some of the cymbals). I'm pretty sure it should sound even better with a proper system.

[Zydar]

I'm interested in getting the HDtracks of ADTOE, but can anyone say how much better the quality is from the regular CD version? Is it worth it?

I dont' have a surround system or anything like that. I bought them and ripped them to a 320 mp3. The only notable difference I hear is the snare sound. It sounds a bit higher in the mix (as well as some of the cymbals). I'm pretty sure it should sound even better with a proper system.

I have a 5.1 system plugged into my PC, so I guess it should sound great.

[Orbert]

I think it's pretty nonsensical to put out HD versions. I mean, just put it on the regular disc with a decent master.

DVDs have a higher storage capacity than CDs.  Remastering may improve the sound, but won't increase the bitrate.  For higher resolution, you have to go to a different medium.

[BlobVanDam]

I think it's pretty nonsensical to put out HD versions. I mean, just put it on the regular disc with a decent master.

DVDs have a higher storage capacity than CDs.  Remastering may improve the sound, but won't increase the bitrate.  For higher resolution, you have to go to a different medium.

I think PixelDream is just referring to using the more dynamic master that the HDTracks version of ADTOE had vs the CD one, rather than the increase in sample rate and bit depth. I think that's the most noticeable advantage this version of ADTOE has over the CD version.

[serrano]

 Having a more dynamic master in the CD would make the HD tracks unattractive.

I think this was already posted by the time the ADTOE HD tracks were released:
There is discussion about the benefits of HD audio: https://xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

[dparrott]

Super is a very good audio converter program: https://www.erightsoft.com/Superdc.html  (download link is at bottom of page)

I think Winamp can burn flac's.  https://www.winamp.com/

[Orbert]

I think it's pretty nonsensical to put out HD versions. I mean, just put it on the regular disc with a decent master.

DVDs have a higher storage capacity than CDs.  Remastering may improve the sound, but won't increase the bitrate.  For higher resolution, you have to go to a different medium.

I think PixelDream is just referring to using the more dynamic master that the HDTracks version of ADTOE had vs the CD one, rather than the increase in sample rate and bit depth. I think that's the most noticeable advantage this version of ADTOE has over the CD version.

A better master helps a lot, of course, but so does higher resolution, and each can only go so far.  My objection was to the statement that you don't need one just because you have the other.

[BlobVanDam]

I think it's pretty nonsensical to put out HD versions. I mean, just put it on the regular disc with a decent master.

DVDs have a higher storage capacity than CDs.  Remastering may improve the sound, but won't increase the bitrate.  For higher resolution, you have to go to a different medium.

I think PixelDream is just referring to using the more dynamic master that the HDTracks version of ADTOE had vs the CD one, rather than the increase in sample rate and bit depth. I think that's the most noticeable advantage this version of ADTOE has over the CD version.

A better master helps a lot, of course, but so does higher resolution, and each can only go so far.  My objection was to the statement that you don't need one just because you have the other.

Fair enough, although personally I think the practical benefits of the higher resolution are arguable, whereas I think the benefits of the greater dynamic range are more obvious to those who have a problem with the loudness war. But point taken anyway.

[serrano]

See the link in my previous post, even if I agree to the point that a higher resolution results in a noticeable benefit, you would need a hell of an equipment to maintain that benefit. The result of a higher dynamic range is more "dramatic"

[TheGreatPretender]

This is really happening? Nice! I think Systematic Chaos is some of the best music they wrote since SFAM. It's about time people got a version of it where their enjoyment of it won't be marred by overcompression.

[Full Speed]

This is really happening? Nice! I think Systematic Chaos is some of the best music they wrote since SFAM. It's about time people got a version of it where their enjoyment of it won't be marred by overcompression.

Since the OP is from April of last year, I doubt this is going to happen.

[The Boomr]

This thread just made me so happy, and then so, so sad.... 

[TheGreatPretender]

This thread just made me so happy, and then so, so sad.... 

This.

Oh well. I like the way SC sounds, so I don't have a problem with its powah.

[The Boomr]

This thread just made me so happy, and then so, so sad.... 

This.

Oh well. I like the way SC sounds, so I don't have a problem with its powah.

I agree. I never particularly took notice of the production of SC. The first time I ever noticed enough to voice my opinion about it in DT music was TEI.

[johncal]

You know with all the negative comments about the sound, (just sayin") it's nice that they are putting out something that electronically has the actual capability of sounding much better than what you can get on CD. That, IMO shows that they do hear and care. You can even say the DVD's are much more HD as well, they really ARE.

[ProgressiveIce]

https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=catalogdetail&valbum_code=HD016861799236
https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=catalogdetail&valbum_code=HD016861788339



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[Mindflux]

Code: DREAM15 for 15% off hdtracks!

[Progmetty]

Really. I like the song and wanted it in quality betterr than mp3. Also I think that it fits the black clouds style... just my opinion!

Me too.

[ariich]

Best to keep it in one thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39194.