Cheers appreciation thread

[yorost]

So?  Best beers of most locations stay in that location.  Mass beers are what gets around the most because they make deals to brew each others beer.  Miller/Coors/Bud just fill something many brewers could have filled and the world wouldn't be different.  Kudos to them for capturing their market.

[black_biff_stadler]

An interesting twist in this story is that German immigrants in the 19th century were a strong presence both by numbers and by influence in bringing in and popularizing lower-flavor, more watery, more adjuncted beer to America.

[yorost]

They weren't the only brewers around, though.  Milwaukee had 23 brewers before it had been a city for 23 years, but only 4 or 5 were ever the Milwaukee Beer Barons.  Milwaukee did have the first mass brewery in the US, though, and I think before we were even a state.  It shipped along the Great Lakes, especially Chicago.

What's really interesting is prohibition and it's influence on all these old brewers.  Wisconsin passed a referendum allowing sale of 'near' beer, something like a 2% by weight cap.  Some went to soda and stuff, a really old brewer(1850's) I grew up by sells as much or more soda than they do beer.  They make it all in the same little brewery.   If you know Leinenkugel's, I think they survived by bottling and shipping water.  I should find the article, but when prohibition was lifted I think the mayor led a city wide party in Milwaukee.

[AcidLameLTE]

CHEERS IS PERFORMED IN FRONT A LIVE STUDIO AUDIENCE.

Christ, I get it. I started watching this show again and I forgot that they did that at the start of every episode. It gets really annoying when you watch a whole bunch of them in a row

[yorost]

https://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2010/07/some-things-you-wanted-to-know-about.html

I have some rather anal questions about the "Cheers is filmed before a live studio audience" announcement.

a) What prompted it?
b) Was there some rule about which actor would introduce each episode?

We were getting complaints from viewers who thought we were leaning on the laugh track too hard. They didn't believe that the laughs were real (which they were). So the decision was made to tell the viewers that the show was filmed in front of a live studio audience. Of course the complaints continued. People still didn't believe that the laughs were genuine (which they were).

There was no rule as to which actor voiced it from week to week. They all recorded the disclaimer and the post production guys just rotated them I guess.

[AcidLameLTE]

Yeah, I kind of guessed it was something like that.

I find the disclaimer more annoying than the laugh track

[T-ski]

Classic show.  Loved when Harry the Hat showed up.

[KevShmev]

The laughs being real is always better than a laugh track.  Listen to the crowd roar at Frasier's one-liner at 8:30 here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJcpe8IZicM  That is like the best one-liner ever in the history of the show (helped immensely by Kelsey Grammer's deadpan delivery), given the context, and the crowd recognizes how awesome it is and howls like crazy.

[AcidLameLTE]

"Excuse me, I've been experiencing grief all afternoon and instead of killing myself, I would like to take you out to dinner" - best pick up line ever

[black_biff_stadler]

https://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2010/07/some-things-you-wanted-to-know-about.html

I have some rather anal questions about the "Cheers is filmed before a live studio audience" announcement.

a) What prompted it?
b) Was there some rule about which actor would introduce each episode?

We were getting complaints from viewers who thought we were leaning on the laugh track too hard. They didn't believe that the laughs were real (which they were). So the decision was made to tell the viewers that the show was filmed in front of a live studio audience. Of course the complaints continued. People still didn't believe that the laughs were genuine (which they were).

There was no rule as to which actor voiced it from week to week. They all recorded the disclaimer and the post production guys just rotated them I guess.

The disclaimer wasn't uttered before a live studio audience?!? 

[AcidLameLTE]

Screaming Viking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBazaWO03Fo

I just watched this episode

[KevShmev]

20 years ago today, the final episode of Cheers aired.  Wow, how time flies.

[El Barto]

Wow, I would have guessed it was older than that. Seems like a show from my youth, rather than my mid twenties.

[hefdaddy42]

20 years ago today, the final episode of Cheers aired.  Wow, how time flies.

Holy shit, I feel old.

[black_biff_stadler]

I remember eating my first blueberry toaster strudel as I watched it.

[lonestar]

20 years ago today, the final episode of Cheers aired.  Wow, how time flies.

Holy shit, I feel old.

Yup.

[TAC]

RIP Kirstie Alley

[King Postwhore]

Damn Cancer.

[The Realm]

Yes RIP Kirsty Alley. A big part of what made Cheers such an iconic show.

[jingle.boy]

 

F#ck cancer.

[KevShmev]

R.I.P.

She was a very good addition to the show following Long's departure.  She has many LOL moments in her six seasons. 

[jingle.boy]

I was a much bigger fan of the Rebecca era. Cheers is my #1 sitcom (maybe #1 overall) of all time.

[Adami]

Not a fan of the person but loved her as Rebecca and a few other roles of hers.

[Cool Chris]

I was a much bigger fan of the Rebecca era. Cheers is my #1 sitcom (maybe #1 overall) of all time.

I discovered Cheers in that era as well, so that was my favorite. It was strange to backtrack. I never bought in to the Sam & Diane relationship, and found Woody funnier, and a better fit within the cast, than Coach.

Star Trek II director Nicholas Meyer said he really enjoyed working with her as Saavik, because that character was so unlike the jovial person she was in real life.

[El Barto]

That's a damn shame. I liked her as both versions of Rebecka Howe, and she was cute as fuck with the ears.

What made Cheers so good was being able to change courses as they did. Woody was a great change-up from Coach, and Rebecka 1 was the polar opposite of Diane. Great direction to go with it. I didn't like Rebecka 2 as much, but Kirstie did great with her and I understand why they needed to change things around.

[MetalJunkie]

[KevShmev]

That's a damn shame. I liked her as both versions of Rebecka Howe, and she was cute as fuck with the ears.

What made Cheers so good was being able to change courses as they did. Woody was a great change-up from Coach, and Rebecka 1 was the polar opposite of Diane. Great direction to go with it. I didn't like Rebecka 2 as much, but Kirstie did great with her and I understand why they needed to change things around.

Agreed. Smart move as well to change the Rebecca character early on, as her stoic personality apparently really wasn't doing much for viewers, but once the episode aired (I think her 5th or 6th) where Norm painted her office and she became a bit of a mess and cried to him about something, the writers realized that that was the way to go, and she became a hot mess on a regular basis.  And she played it well.

[Stadler]

That's a damn shame. I liked her as both versions of Rebecka Howe, and she was cute as fuck with the ears.

What made Cheers so good was being able to change courses as they did. Woody was a great change-up from Coach, and Rebecka 1 was the polar opposite of Diane. Great direction to go with it. I didn't like Rebecka 2 as much, but Kirstie did great with her and I understand why they needed to change things around.

Agreed. Smart move as well to change the Rebecca character early on, as her stoic personality apparently really wasn't doing much for viewers, but once the episode aired (I think her 5th or 6th) where Norm painted her office and she became a bit of a mess and cried to him about something, the writers realized that that was the way to go, and she became a hot mess on a regular basis.  And she played it well.

I actually got to see a taping of Cheers back in the day.  Like Jingle, it might be my favorite sitcom of all time. Frasier is really the only character I didn't fully go for. 

I had a huge crush on Kirstie Alley from Day One (which would have been that horrible movie Runaway with Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons), which endured even into her later life.

[jammindude]

Hey! Runaway was awesome! And I thought Simmons made a pretty great villain in both the movies he was in!

(Love the "F*** the bonus.." ending in Wanted Dead or Alive with Rutger Hauer)

Re: Kirstie. This news made me really sad. I too had a crush on her back in the day. She was the first "hot Vulcan" as Saavak in Wrath of Khan, and I was always bummed she didn't continue that character. She brought a level of vulnerability to the role that was sorely missed in her replacement's performance.

RIP

[KevShmev]

That's a damn shame. I liked her as both versions of Rebecka Howe, and she was cute as fuck with the ears.

What made Cheers so good was being able to change courses as they did. Woody was a great change-up from Coach, and Rebecka 1 was the polar opposite of Diane. Great direction to go with it. I didn't like Rebecka 2 as much, but Kirstie did great with her and I understand why they needed to change things around.

Agreed. Smart move as well to change the Rebecca character early on, as her stoic personality apparently really wasn't doing much for viewers, but once the episode aired (I think her 5th or 6th) where Norm painted her office and she became a bit of a mess and cried to him about something, the writers realized that that was the way to go, and she became a hot mess on a regular basis.  And she played it well.

I actually got to see a taping of Cheers back in the day.  Like Jingle, it might be my favorite sitcom of all time. Frasier is really the only character I didn't fully go for. 

I had a huge crush on Kirstie Alley from Day One (which would have been that horrible movie Runaway with Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons), which endured even into her later life.

Oh, wow, that makes me a little sad, considering Frasier is one of my favorite TV sitcom characters ever based solely off Cheers.  He was good on his own show as well, but he had a little extra bite as a supporting character on the mother show.  I still love that he was originally supposed to be in a handful of episodes, but was so funny that they kept him around and the rest is history. And the writers said they would give them the worst lines on paper because they knew he could make anything funny with his delivery.  And he always did.

[Harmony]

Me and hubby rewatched Cheers from start to finish shortly after the pandemic shut us all down.  it is an awesome show and I thoroughly enjoyed it as much as I did when it originally aired.  Probably more.  I liked Rebecca's addition to the show, but I'm team Diane.  There was more chemistry there between Sam and Diane.

Kristie Alley was a fine actress and definitely a very beautiful woman.  On a personal level, esp with the Scientology bent - she got a bit too far out there for me.  But she seemed essentially harmless.  It was an honor to be blocked on Twitter by her.  I'm fairly certain I asked a question about Scientology that she didn't like.  Her Trump posts always amused me though.


The first few seasons of Fraiser IMO are some of the best episodes of comedic television writing out there.  Hands down.  I can see someone not liking the actors I guess.  I thought it was a helluva spin off.


As tribute to this beauty - which is your favorite?

[jingle.boy]

[pg1067]

As tribute to this beauty - which is your favorite?

If rows are letters and columns are numbers, I'm going with, in no particular order, A2, B1, B4, D1 and D2.  So much excess fabric in some of those shots!

[Stadler]

That's a damn shame. I liked her as both versions of Rebecka Howe, and she was cute as fuck with the ears.

What made Cheers so good was being able to change courses as they did. Woody was a great change-up from Coach, and Rebecka 1 was the polar opposite of Diane. Great direction to go with it. I didn't like Rebecka 2 as much, but Kirstie did great with her and I understand why they needed to change things around.

Agreed. Smart move as well to change the Rebecca character early on, as her stoic personality apparently really wasn't doing much for viewers, but once the episode aired (I think her 5th or 6th) where Norm painted her office and she became a bit of a mess and cried to him about something, the writers realized that that was the way to go, and she became a hot mess on a regular basis.  And she played it well.

I actually got to see a taping of Cheers back in the day.  Like Jingle, it might be my favorite sitcom of all time. Frasier is really the only character I didn't fully go for. 

I had a huge crush on Kirstie Alley from Day One (which would have been that horrible movie Runaway with Tom Selleck and Gene Simmons), which endured even into her later life.

Oh, wow, that makes me a little sad, considering Frasier is one of my favorite TV sitcom characters ever based solely off Cheers.  He was good on his own show as well, but he had a little extra bite as a supporting character on the mother show.  I still love that he was originally supposed to be in a handful of episodes, but was so funny that they kept him around and the rest is history. And the writers said they would give them the worst lines on paper because they knew he could make anything funny with his delivery.  And he always did.

Well, to be clear, I don't like Frazier BECAUSE of his show; they sanded off the rough edges as they almost always have to do with a main character.  I did like him on Cheers, especially with Lilith.

[Stadler]

Me and hubby rewatched Cheers from start to finish shortly after the pandemic shut us all down.  it is an awesome show and I thoroughly enjoyed it as much as I did when it originally aired.  Probably more.  I liked Rebecca's addition to the show, but I'm team Diane.  There was more chemistry there between Sam and Diane.

Kristie Alley was a fine actress and definitely a very beautiful woman.  On a personal level, esp with the Scientology bent - she got a bit too far out there for me.  But she seemed essentially harmless.  It was an honor to be blocked on Twitter by her.  I'm fairly certain I asked a question about Scientology that she didn't like.  Her Trump posts always amused me though.


The first few seasons of Fraiser IMO are some of the best episodes of comedic television writing out there.  Hands down.  I can see someone not liking the actors I guess.  I thought it was a helluva spin off.


As tribute to this beauty - which is your favorite?

My favorite?  Yes.  I thought she was beautiful even later in life (size doesn't matter to me).   I'm also a hair guy, so for me, using PG's system, A2, B5, E2.