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Re: The Official Ghost Thread v. Popestar tour info on page 11
« Reply #665 on: June 16, 2018, 12:32:54 PM »
Looking a bit in the future.... I've heard an interview snippet with Tobias Forge talking about having for each album a Papa was becoming predictable, hence the introduction of the Cardinal to change things up, which they plan to keep around for 4-5 years as a character.

He hinted that there could be a change for him in the future, and that he has anyway the different eyes of the previous Papas.... and we all know in real life what's the next step for a cardinal, if he ever gets "promoted". I was thinkin that it would be cool if Cardinal Copia becomes a Papa (maybe a promotion after this tour cycle?), and they stage their own habemus papam to announce the new Pope, qui sibi nomen imposuit Emeritus IV most likely   :D
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« Reply #666 on: June 16, 2018, 01:14:28 PM »
Okay I take back what I said about the instrumentals before. Miasma kicks ass.

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« Reply #667 on: June 17, 2018, 09:56:42 AM »
Interesting train of though, MirrorMask. I'm very intrigued by what may follow and I'm trying to be very open-minded and not get attached to Cardinal Copia - after all, he's just a phase.

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« Reply #668 on: June 17, 2018, 07:28:14 PM »
Okay I take back what I said about the instrumentals before. Miasma kicks ass.

The sax solo in that song is absolutely perfect.  The song is just rocking out and then the sax comes in and makes it so much better.

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Re: The Official Ghost Thread v. Popestar tour info on page 11
« Reply #669 on: June 18, 2018, 06:32:26 PM »
Okay I take back what I said about the instrumentals before. Miasma kicks ass.

The sax solo in that song is absolutely perfect.  The song is just rocking out and then the sax comes in and makes it so much better.

Now see, on rare exceptions, I generally do not like brass in my rock music. So when I heard there was an instrumental (which I am usually not fond of either) with a sax solo, I was all...ughhhh. But damn if it doesn't work in Miasma. And somehow that's what Ghost does. They make everything they set out to do work.
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Re: The Official Ghost Thread v. Popestar tour info on page 11
« Reply #670 on: June 18, 2018, 08:28:58 PM »
Okay I take back what I said about the instrumentals before. Miasma kicks ass.

The sax solo in that song is absolutely perfect.  The song is just rocking out and then the sax comes in and makes it so much better.

Now see, on rare exceptions, I generally do not like brass in my rock music. So when I heard there was an instrumental (which I am usually not fond of either) with a sax solo, I was all...ughhhh. But damn if it doesn't work in Miasma. And somehow that's what Ghost does. They make everything they set out to do work.

I love it, and I love how they bring out the sax in the live show as well.   :metal

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Re: The Official Ghost Thread v. Popestar tour info on page 11
« Reply #671 on: July 11, 2018, 10:55:14 AM »
To continue talking about Miasma, there's one part that I can't stop rewinding back to after his happens. It's after the drum roll at the 2:58 mark and kicks into the chugging riff and that synth playing over it. I can't stop listening to it. The way I tried describing it to my dad is that it felt ethereal. It's dark yet beautiful and if that synth sound isn't there, the part just isn't as good.


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« Reply #672 on: September 06, 2018, 12:12:05 PM »
A few weeks in and i still think this is their best yet. Fantastic work. Life eternal is a favourite - both dark and moving. The writing and direction of the album is so perfect for me.

The carpenter brut Dance Macabre is fab, too, in case you've not heard it. Shows that Tobias' voice is great in another setting and that synthwave really benefits from great vocal songs, afaic.

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Re: The Official Ghost Thread v. Popestar tour info on page 11
« Reply #673 on: September 06, 2018, 12:26:57 PM »
This is really cool of Ghost to do for the guy who died during their concert earlier in the year:

http://www.metalinjection.net/tour-dates/ghost-to-return-to-milwaukee-for-show-to-honor-deceased-fan

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Re: The Official Ghost Thread v. Popestar tour info on page 11
« Reply #674 on: September 09, 2018, 09:13:59 PM »
The trial for the lawsuit against Tobias by the former Ghouls is well underway in Sweden.

You can read the rough transcripts of the proceedings over on the lawsuit reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghost_Lawsuit/

There's been some interesting things coming out of it thus far through the first three days (there's three more).

One of the more interesting things is that Martin Persner (the Ghoul that went on to revive Magna Carta Cartel and did a lot of PR for the band and was the guy who designed the costumes and such) was fired from the band. Apparently Tobias and everyone else except Mauro was having issues with him and they voted to fire him. Martin takes the stand on Monday or maybe Tuesday, so it will be interesting to see how that goes.

The other takeaway is that Tobias was definitely not prepared for questioning. He kinda shoots himself in the foot a few times such as not knowing what a companionship agreement was despite sending an email to the band members telling them to sign a companionship agreement.

Another tidbit. The intro to Cirice was not played the way it was originally written. Henrik, who played bass on Meliora, was fiddling around on the acoustic guitar and played the part a different way. Klas Ahlund, the producer, liked it and told him that was the correct way that part should be played. Apparently, Tobias was pissed off (furious, as the testimony says).

Very interesting transcripts though.

Tobias is gonna have a very short night though. They had a show Sunday night in London at Royal Albert Hall and he has to be in court Monday morning for cross examination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8r8DsIONeU

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Another thing that maybe I misread, but thought was kinda funny. Tobias requested to go through a different door of the court room so he didn't have to run into the Ghouls suing him, since during breaks you can freely roam the halls of the courthouse. I can understand not wanting to run into them, but I don't think they're gonna want to talk to him either
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Re: The Official Ghost Thread v. Popestar tour info on page 11
« Reply #675 on: September 10, 2018, 01:03:32 AM »
Wow very interesting. Thanks for the insight.
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« Reply #676 on: September 10, 2018, 08:40:54 AM »
I'd always figured it was just a massive communications clusterfuck instead of malign intent on anyone's part, and this all seems to underscore that.  I think this could be taught in future Swedish contract law classes as "what not to do".  Seriously, having them sign contracts on merch and management when they were just "employees" with no say in anything???  That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.  And the commingling of funds?  Oy.

If I read TF's testimony right, at times Sissi (his lawyer) held herself out as TF's atty, at other times as the band's atty...that is some bad juju.  In the US, that could carry some serious professional consequences.  Not sure about Sweden.

Also, it seems like MP saw that the ship was headed for an iceberg from early on and kept pushing for clarity, saying how badly things would turn out if there were not clear agreements in place.

EDIT: and speaking of MP, new MCC single next week!
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Re: The Official Ghost Thread v. Popestar tour info on page 11
« Reply #677 on: September 12, 2018, 04:24:17 PM »
Looking forward to that MCC single and eventual album. Martin's a great musician, voice, and personality. I look forward to seeing what they do. His testimony had a bit that made me laugh:
"Universal could pay to put us in one of the top five most expensive recording studios in the US, yet they couldn't afford to give us a wheat roll or Capri Sun?"

He had another one in an email where he was talking about merchandise and how there was a fine line between stepping on people's toes and farting in their mouths (in regards to having stupid merchandise and tasteful merchandise.)

Anyways, I agree. It just seems like a giant clusterfuck and miscommunication. Maybe Tobias knew all of this and is playing dumb, or maybe he genuinely didn't know what was going on. All they had to do was communicate though, and they didn't. That Sissi (TF's lawyer) was playing the Ghoul's. Hopefully he doesn't do business with her anymore.

The Ghouls definitely came out looking better, except Mauro, who just seemed like he was along for the ride.
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