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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #105 on: September 14, 2017, 09:45:56 AM »
I have been trying to get out of going to ESPN.com every time I want an update on the sports world. It is always a headline or two, then clips of what Stephen A. thinks about something, then some article about racial issues. It does have some great reporting, it can just be buried in the muck. And I can't find a good alternative resource for sports news. 
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #106 on: September 14, 2017, 09:50:37 AM »
I have been trying to get out of going to ESPN.com every time I want an update on the sports world. It is always a headline or two, then clips of what Stephen A. thinks about something, then some article about racial issues. It does have some great reporting, it can just be buried in the muck. And I can't find a good alternative resource for sports news.

And they laid off some of the good writers.  I only use the website to check live scores, just like I only use the tv channel to watch live sports.  It's not necessarily about political leanings for me, it's more about:

ESPN hasn't been about "sticking to sports" for a while. Turn on ESPN for an hour, and you'll see a few minutes of sports clips spliced in between talking heads spewing hot takes. Repeat every hour.

And those talking heads are just annoying too, I really don't like most ESPN personalities anymore.

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« Reply #107 on: September 14, 2017, 09:52:47 AM »
I have been trying to get out of going to ESPN.com every time I want an update on the sports world. It is always a headline or two, then clips of what Stephen A. thinks about something, then some article about racial issues. It does have some great reporting, it can just be buried in the muck. And I can't find a good alternative resource for sports news.

And they laid off some of the good writers.  I only use the website to check live scores, just like I only use the tv channel to watch live sports.  It's not necessarily about political leanings for me, it's more about:

ESPN hasn't been about "sticking to sports" for a while. Turn on ESPN for an hour, and you'll see a few minutes of sports clips spliced in between talking heads spewing hot takes. Repeat every hour.

And those talking heads are just annoying too, I really don't like most ESPN personalities anymore.

Yup, I pretty much never watch the actual flagship channel on TV anymore, they lost what I considered to be a lot of their best personalities. I basically just use the ESPN app to check scores and that's about it at this point.

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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #108 on: September 14, 2017, 11:25:51 AM »
She called a white supremacist a white supremacist. Anyone bothered by that is probably harboring some questionable beliefs.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #109 on: September 14, 2017, 11:29:54 AM »
She called a white supremacist a white supremacist. Anyone bothered by that is probably harboring some questionable beliefs.

I disagree. I'm not going to stand up for him as a decent human, but I don't believe he is a white supremacist.

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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #110 on: September 14, 2017, 11:59:40 AM »
Everyone's entitled to their opinion but imo he took any tiny shred of eligibility he had to not be considered one and doused it in kerosene and set it on fire the way he "handled" Charlottesville.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #111 on: September 14, 2017, 01:56:30 PM »
She called a white supremacist a white supremacist. Anyone bothered by that is probably harboring some questionable beliefs.

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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #112 on: September 14, 2017, 06:53:10 PM »
I have been trying to get out of going to ESPN.com every time I want an update on the sports world. It is always a headline or two, then clips of what Stephen A. thinks about something, then some article about racial issues. It does have some great reporting, it can just be buried in the muck. And I can't find a good alternative resource for sports news.

It's sports talk, not news, but I like Cowherd's show on FS1.  He always talk sports, sports and more sports, without all of the other crap 99% of the time.

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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #113 on: September 14, 2017, 07:47:06 PM »
ESPN hasn't been about "sticking to sports" for a while. Turn on ESPN for an hour, and you'll see a few minutes of sports clips spliced in between talking heads spewing hot takes. Repeat every hour. Jemele Hill made those comments on her personal twitter account, not on espn. She met with executives, and they came to a consensus that she should not have done that. Which IMO is why she deserves at most a suspension.

Right. I think people are calling a double standard because Curt Schilling was fired for political tweeting. But he was clearly warned and ignored it. THAT'S why he was fired. If she received a warning for violating a company policy, fine. If she also ignores it, then if she's not fired, it becomes an issue.
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« Reply #114 on: September 14, 2017, 08:00:30 PM »
It's not her first time tweeting like that. 

I'm of the mindset that these words, these tweets are not what's going to bring us together.  It separates us and in this day and age of the internet we need to stop this. We need better our communication and work things out not throw barbs at each other.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #115 on: September 14, 2017, 08:12:15 PM »
It's not her first time tweeting like that. 

I did not know that. I pay ZERO attention to ESPN.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #116 on: September 14, 2017, 08:18:53 PM »
I pay ZERO attention to ESPN.

With the exception being the opening segment of PTI, which I DVR and sometimes watch a little of still, the same applies to me.  I didn't even know about this Jemele Hill nonsense until I saw a blurb about it on FB last night. 

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« Reply #117 on: September 14, 2017, 08:19:06 PM »
I did not know that. I pay ZERO attention to ESPN.

The rock I live under is way, way bigger than yours. Before this story broke, I'd never even heard of this woman.

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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #118 on: September 14, 2017, 08:21:46 PM »
Maybe it's because I've seen so many of her Boston is racist tweets. Maybe it's because I'm on Twitter. But I've seen too much of her dialogue say that this kind of dialogue is not healthy. I believe there is racism in America I know it. But this dialogue will not help fix that.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #119 on: September 14, 2017, 08:25:06 PM »
She's awful. They used to trot her out on Sports Reporters (which was one of the few ESPN shows I still watched in recent years, before it was cancelled), and it was glaring how bad she was compared to the others on there.  Her opinions were so simple-minded and she is one of the least articulate people I have ever seen on television.  She might be a fine sportswriter (that's what I've heard), but she is a terrible TV personality (similar to Bill Simmons).

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« Reply #120 on: September 14, 2017, 08:28:21 PM »
 I'm just tired of the Boston is racist narrative. That was the 60's narrative, not today.

Racism is everywhere. When's the last time you saw an outbreak and vandalism in Boston?   if it's hired narrative she perpetuates it. Racism is all over, it's not isolated in one area
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #121 on: September 14, 2017, 08:30:01 PM »
I'm just tired of the Boston is racist narrative. That was the 60's narrative, not today.

Racism is everywhere. When's the last time you saw an outbreak and vandalism in Boston?  if it's hired narrative she perpetuates it. Racism is all over, it's not isolated in one area

I've never personally seen an outbreak or vandalism in Boston...I try to stay out of racist cities.





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« Reply #122 on: September 14, 2017, 08:35:15 PM »
 :lol

Someday we will ban each other over many beers and man hug in public.

Search your feelings. :lol
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #123 on: September 14, 2017, 08:38:16 PM »
I don't drink beer.  :hat

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« Reply #124 on: September 14, 2017, 08:38:48 PM »
When's the last time you saw an outbreak and vandalism in Boston?

According the the American history classes that I had to take when I was a kid, that's what Boston is most famous for. Granted, it was a long damn time ago, but...  :biggrin:
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« Reply #125 on: September 14, 2017, 08:40:08 PM »
I don't drink beer.  :hat


I'd backhand you but food works as well.
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« Reply #126 on: September 14, 2017, 08:42:11 PM »
When's the last time you saw an outbreak and vandalism in Boston?

According the the American history classes that I had to take when I was a kid, that's what Boston is most famous for. Granted, it was a long damn time ago, but...  :biggrin:

I was a young child in the seventies where segregation was a thing of the past. We went to school together I had friends that were Hispanic Dominican and Puerto Rican. Ecuadorian I had friends from Canada I live in a tough town of Lawrence Massachusetts. They were all my friends so the history of for the seventies is a thing of the past.

Obviously there still racism in Boston in the America it is nothing like the past. I reach out to all my friends of the past no matter what their skin color is and give him a big hug. Good people are good people skin doesn't matter.
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« Reply #127 on: September 14, 2017, 09:51:20 PM »
When's the last time you saw an outbreak and vandalism in Boston?

According the the American history classes that I had to take when I was a kid, that's what Boston is most famous for. Granted, it was a long damn time ago, but...  :biggrin:

I was a young child in the seventies where segregation was a thing of the past. We went to school together I had friends that were Hispanic Dominican and Puerto Rican. Ecuadorian I had friends from Canada I live in a tough town of Lawrence Massachusetts. They were all my friends so the history of for the seventies is a thing of the past.

Obviously there still racism in Boston in the America it is nothing like the past. I reach out to all my friends of the past no matter what their skin color is and give him a big hug. Good people are good people skin doesn't matter.

I was actually making an obscure reference to the Boston Tea Party as far as an outbreak of vandalism goes, but I was being too vague. Every place in this fine country of ours, whether it be North or South, has some tale of racism tied to it if you dig deep enough. The people that are singling out Boston are doing so just to try to validate their point.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #128 on: September 15, 2017, 05:00:12 AM »
Right over my head. :lol
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« Reply #129 on: September 16, 2017, 10:41:39 AM »
I did not know that. I pay ZERO attention to ESPN.

The rock I live under is way, way bigger than yours. Before this story broke, I'd never even heard of this woman.

My last job was for a major cruise line. They told all of us, from the CEO to the lowliest serf (me): If you represent yourself on social media as employee of this company, we expect your presence on the internet to be respectful and mindful of this. You may not be speaking on behalf of the company, but you are affiliated with this company, and (they said it nicer than this) we don't want any PR nightmares because of your bullcrap.


This is a good point CoolChris. I personally don't put my employers on my Facebook, which is tied the most privately to me. One of the many reasons is just this; I don't want anything I say in my private life so to speak to be associated with my professional career. But it goes beyond that too- even the questionable personal photos people post may not reflect well.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #131 on: October 10, 2017, 07:00:17 AM »
I did not know that. I pay ZERO attention to ESPN.

The rock I live under is way, way bigger than yours. Before this story broke, I'd never even heard of this woman.

My last job was for a major cruise line. They told all of us, from the CEO to the lowliest serf (me): If you represent yourself on social media as employee of this company, we expect your presence on the internet to be respectful and mindful of this. You may not be speaking on behalf of the company, but you are affiliated with this company, and (they said it nicer than this) we don't want any PR nightmares because of your bullcrap.


This is a good point CoolChris. I personally don't put my employers on my Facebook, which is tied the most privately to me. One of the many reasons is just this; I don't want anything I say in my private life so to speak to be associated with my professional career. But it goes beyond that too- even the questionable personal photos people post may not reflect well.

This is why DTF IS my facebook.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #132 on: October 10, 2017, 07:39:18 AM »
I'm just tired of the Boston is racist narrative. That was the 60's narrative, not today.

Racism is everywhere. When's the last time you saw an outbreak and vandalism in Boston?   if it's hired narrative she perpetuates it. Racism is all over, it's not isolated in one area

I want to second this.   I have spent and now spend a shit ton of time in Boston, and while there are meatheads there, I can tell you from first hand experience, the "simmering" racism is at least as bad, if not worse, in other cities (including my beloved Philly), and the "scene" at places like Murphy's in Chicago (by Wrigley Field) are as bad as anything I've experienced in Boston. 

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« Reply #133 on: October 10, 2017, 07:44:15 AM »
It just goes to show what assholes Michael Smith and Howard Bryant are. They have no career if they don't perpetuate that belief. Even when Smith was doing a little talk radio here, I just never understood his appeal.
Chris Gaspar is far more thoughtful, and Michael Holley, who has been all over, is easily the most reasonable.
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Re: ESPN Sucks
« Reply #134 on: October 10, 2017, 08:37:05 AM »
https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/10/09/jemele-hill-espn-suspension-legal-analysis

Her new tweets weren't nearly as bad as calling the President a White Supremacist.  I kind of thought these were tame, but Trump is already jumping all over this.  This whole thing feels like a reality TV show.

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« Reply #135 on: October 10, 2017, 06:44:03 PM »
ESPN host calls for a boycott of NFL advertisers.

ESPN and the NFL work together.

Brilliant.  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #136 on: October 10, 2017, 07:00:16 PM »
ESPN host calls for a boycott of NFL advertisers.

ESPN and the NFL work together.

Brilliant.  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #137 on: October 10, 2017, 07:34:12 PM »
Exactly. 

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« Reply #138 on: October 10, 2017, 08:56:54 PM »
The true irony would be if advertisers started abandoning ESPN due to Jemele's comments.
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