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New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« on: March 20, 2012, 01:37:22 PM »
Two congressmen have introduced a bill that would require almost all video games to feature a warning label concerning exposure to violent games, similar to the health warnings on tobacco products.

 Called the Violence in Video Games Labeling Act (H.R. 4204, PDF link), the bipartisan bill seeks to label games in the U.S. with a message that reads "WARNING: Exposure to violent video games has been linked to aggressive behavior" on their packaging (or in another clear and conspicuous location, if distributed digitally).

 "Just as we warn smokers of the health consequences of tobacco, we should warn parents — and children — about the growing scientific evidence demonstrating a relationship between violent video games and violent behavior," said Virginia Representative and the bill's co-sponsor Frank Wolf, according to The Hill.

 California Representative Joe Baca, who also co-sponsored the bill, added, "The video game industry has a responsibility to parents, families and to consumers — to inform them of the potentially damaging content that is often found in their products. They have repeatedly failed to live up to this responsibility."

 Many video games are already labeled with ratings and content descriptors from the Entertainment Software Rating Board. If passed, the Video Games Labeling Act would empower the Consumer Product Safety Commission to label all games rated by the ESRB, with the exception of those with "Early Childhood" ratings, with the warning.

 Several recent attempts to penalize violent video games have failed, such as the 2005 California law that sought to ban the sale of such games to minors without their parents' approval. The Supreme Court eventually overturned the law, and ruled that video games quality for First Amendment protections, just like books and other media.

 And earlier this year, a proposed Oklahoma bill looked to impose an extra 1 percent tax on all games rated T (for Teens) or higher, which would fund anti-bullying and outdoor education programs for children -- New Mexico had a similar bill in 2008, which failed to clear the state legislature.

 The Oklahoma proposal was eventually struck down in a 5-6 vote, but not before the Entertainment Software Association, the game industry trade group that typically fights laws like California's violent video game law in court, condemned the bill as "patently unconstitutional."

I can understand tobacco warnings - there's an understood mechanism behind the increased cancer risk. However, the "growing scientific evidence" for video games causing violence is still extremely shoddy, both in establishing a correlation between video games and 'violent tendancies' and even moreso is establishing causation.

Moreover, the fact that they want this warning on every game that is rated over EC, regardless of whether it has any violence even in it. I mean, Tetris would get stamped with this ffs. :facepalm:
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2012, 01:42:26 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2012, 03:58:02 PM »

 California Representative Joe Baca, who also co-sponsored the bill, added, "The video game industry has a responsibility to parents, families and to consumers — to inform them of the potentially damaging content that is often found in their products. They have repeatedly failed to live up to this responsibility."


Wait. What happened to the Parents being responsible for what their kids can and can't watch. The Video Game Industry has no responsibility whatsoever except to deliver high quality games to its consumers. I swear man, Parents aren't responsible anymore which is one reason why they depend on the Gov't to do the parenting for them, like they do with schools.  :facepalm:
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 04:01:46 PM »
I haven't played a video game in ten years, and haven't been in a fight in those same ten.  Coincidence? I think not.

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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 04:05:54 PM »
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2012, 04:40:20 PM »
Things I've done in video games that I haven't done in real life:
Killed other humans with swords
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 04:58:23 PM »
 :lol

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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 08:00:01 PM »
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 08:05:40 PM »
 How about they just enforce the existing rating system?
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 08:06:01 PM »
Is there any sort of policy where you have to knowledgeably defend any bill you propose in front of a panel of experts, much like with a dissertation? Because if not we sure as hell need one.

How about they just enforce the existing rating system?

Because that would require minimal effort.

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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 08:09:53 PM »
This is laughable and I hardly see it's necessity. I think the ESRB ratings for the games are a good status quo for the gaming industry right now. Everyone knows what a game is rated and thus what the content of the games are likely to be, especially with the ESRB ratings containing some explanation for why a game is rated a certain way right on the box (Rating 'M' for violence, drug use, etc).
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 08:21:08 PM »
:lol

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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 08:55:04 PM »
Video games are a perfect stress relief. Especially violent ones.

fuck, they're already labeled. This shit is stupid as hell. well, i guess i'm 22 in an hour anyway, so it's not like it affects me.

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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2012, 12:57:34 PM »
Y'know Washington, seriously, it's hard to keep defending you assholes when you keep stabbing me in the back...
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2012, 01:27:16 PM »
I can understand tobacco warnings - there's an understood mechanism behind the increased cancer risk. However, the "growing scientific evidence" for video games causing violence is still extremely shoddy, both in establishing a correlation between video games and 'violent tendancies' and even moreso is establishing causation.
The inability to comprehend simple logic is almost as confounding to me as the ability of simpletons to get themselves elected  to positions where they can fuck with the rest of us (who actually can comprehend such matters). 
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Re: New bill proposes tobacco-style warning labels for games
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2012, 05:33:15 PM »
I can understand tobacco warnings - there's an understood mechanism behind the increased cancer risk. However, the "growing scientific evidence" for video games causing violence is still extremely shoddy, both in establishing a correlation between video games and 'violent tendancies' and even moreso is establishing causation.
The inability to comprehend simple logic is almost as confounding to me as the ability of simpletons to get themselves elected  to positions where they can fuck with the rest of us (who actually can comprehend such matters).

I dunno, I think the electorate describes pretty well why such simpletons get into office.

What amazes me is... do these people not have kids who play violent video games (or, not know that their kids do)? Or know kids who play violent video games?