Author Topic: Disney expects $200 million loss on John Carter (Read 7007 times)

Fluffy Lothario · « **on:** March 19, 2012, 11:54:37 PM »

https://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/20/entertainment-us-disney-carter-idUSBRE82I11E20120320

If it actually does reach this number, wouldn't that make it the biggest flop of all time?

Either way, between this and Mars Needs Moms from last year, that's a LOT of money down the drain.

Adami · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2012, 12:00:29 AM »

Disney needs to stay on earth it seems. Fantasy or reality, just on earth.

Nel · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2012, 12:12:53 AM »

Did Walt Disney piss off Mars, the god of war at some point in the past? If man ever colonized Mars, would it eject any Disney product back into space? That planet is like kryptonite to them.

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2012, 02:00:15 AM »

Wow. I went to a press screening at Disney Studios before the release... Was a good (ish) movie... but they are / were aiming at the wrong demographics. It is like they are trying to please both children and adult men in one movie. Doesnt happen.

Nekov · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2012, 04:06:46 AM »

That's weird. That movie has been the most watched here since it hit the theaters.

Chino · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2012, 04:55:07 AM »

In CT, It was beat by 21 Jump Street and The Lorax (which has been out like a month now)

GuineaPig · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2012, 05:41:55 AM »

That's what you get from a non-descriptive name and zero marketing.

It seemed that they were intentionally trying to make it fail.

pogoowner · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2012, 10:11:39 AM »

Quote from: GuineaPig on March 20, 2012, 05:41:55 AM

That's what you get from a non-descriptive name and zero marketing.

It seemed that they were intentionally trying to make it fail.

The name is bad, yes. I recall seeing plenty of commercials for it, though.

Implode · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2012, 10:17:26 AM »

I had never heard of this movie. But then again I don't watch TV.

PlaysLikeMyung · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2012, 11:30:01 AM »

I suspect theyll recoup their losses with Brave.

Dr. DTVT · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2012, 11:35:12 AM »

The TV commercials for that movie are like repelant. I don't think I'd go watch it given a free ticket.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2012, 11:40:42 AM »

Feel bad for Taylor Kitsch, who seems like a genuinely good guy. I hope this doesn't hurt his career too much.

Dr. DTVT · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2012, 11:43:12 AM »

It shouldn't effect the actors. Sean Connery made Zardoz and still had a successful acting career.

Nekov · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2012, 11:44:56 AM »

Quote from: DTVT on March 20, 2012, 11:43:12 AM

It shouldn't effect the actors. Sean Connery made Zardoz and still had a successful acting career.

Sean Connery has one of the most amazing accents. That alone probably got him a couple of parts.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2012, 11:46:23 AM »

Quote from: Nekov on March 20, 2012, 11:44:56 AM

Quote from: DTVT on March 20, 2012, 11:43:12 AM
It shouldn't effect the actors. Sean Connery made Zardoz and still had a successful acting career.

Sean Connery has one of the most amazing accents. That alone probably got him a couple of parts.

Especially the lady parts.

ariich · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2012, 12:56:01 PM »

Quote from: Nekov on March 20, 2012, 04:06:46 AM

That's weird. That movie has been the most watched here since it hit the theaters.

Same here, and there have been absolutely tons of adverts. I can only assume they spent a ludicrous amount making it.

Nick · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2012, 01:02:01 PM »

They spent nearly 300 million on the film and have made back only about 100 million.

MykeHavoc · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2012, 02:11:27 PM »

Quote from: Nick on March 20, 2012, 01:02:01 PM

They spent nearly 300 million on the film and have made back only about 100 million.

Internationally, by the time it leaves theaters, it'll make a bit more. Then you'll have DVD/blu-ray to bring in more scratch. By the end of it, it won't be a big of a flop as some would perceive. The problem is that it wasn't the hit they were hoping for. Green Lantern suffered the same fate.

TheOutlawXanadu · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2012, 05:08:16 PM »

The other thing we have to keep in mind is that the $250 million budget doesn't include what they spent on advertising.

emindead · « **Reply #19 on:** March 20, 2012, 05:36:30 PM »

Quote from: BlobVanDam on March 20, 2012, 11:46:23 AM

Quote from: Nekov on March 20, 2012, 11:44:56 AM
Quote from: DTVT on March 20, 2012, 11:43:12 AM
It shouldn't effect the actors. Sean Connery made Zardoz and still had a successful acting career.

Sean Connery has one of the most amazing accents. That alone probably got him a couple of parts.

Especially the lady parts.

HEY-YOOOOOOO o/

PuffyPat · « **Reply #20 on:** March 20, 2012, 09:37:13 PM »

Fluffy Lothario · « **Reply #21 on:** March 20, 2012, 10:04:04 PM »

To me, this movie looks okay. Probably not spectacularly bad or anything. I'm certainly not rushing out to see it though.

It seems a bit crazy to me to risk putting so much money into a movie that isn't more or less guaranteed to make it back. Shit like Spiderman or Lord of the Rings or the latest animated movie the kids are gonna flock to in the holidays, okay, you can spend as much as you like and know you've got a safe audience that is gonna come and see it. Spending 250-300 mil on something like this though seems like it's asking for trouble.

ReaPsTA · « **Reply #22 on:** March 20, 2012, 10:06:08 PM »

Hopefully, Finding Nemo and Wall-E will keep Andrew Stanton's reputation from being destroyed.

wolfandwolfandwolf · « **Reply #23 on:** March 21, 2012, 05:37:23 AM »

Not a bad movie, just not enough hype surrounding it. The trailer didn't help it either.

Tick · « **Reply #24 on:** March 21, 2012, 05:43:29 AM »

Quote from: Adami on March 20, 2012, 12:00:29 AM

Disney needs to stay on earth it seems. Fantasy or reality, just on earth.

Well, they need to stay off Mars that for sure. Perhaps they should branch out to Uranus or Neptune. I just love a good, gas ball planet adventure!

wolfandwolfandwolf · « **Reply #25 on:** March 21, 2012, 05:59:59 AM »

Quote from: Tick on March 21, 2012, 05:43:29 AM

Quote from: Adami on March 20, 2012, 12:00:29 AM
Disney needs to stay on earth it seems. Fantasy or reality, just on earth.
Perhaps they should branch out to Uranus

Yes. Perhaps.

Tick · « **Reply #26 on:** March 21, 2012, 06:18:43 AM »

Quote from: wolfandwolfandwolf on March 21, 2012, 05:59:59 AM

Quote from: Tick on March 21, 2012, 05:43:29 AM
Quote from: Adami on March 20, 2012, 12:00:29 AM
Disney needs to stay on earth it seems. Fantasy or reality, just on earth.
Perhaps they should branch out to Uranus
Yes. Perhaps.

Uranus needs moms too!

PlaysLikeMyung · « **Reply #27 on:** March 21, 2012, 06:27:35 AM »

skydivingninja · « **Reply #28 on:** March 21, 2012, 07:31:26 AM »

I don't get it.

But yeah I don't think "John Carter" is a name that many people except hardcore early sci-fi nerds would know, and I have seen almost zero advertising for this thing, so yeah, I can see why its losing money.

Nick · « **Reply #29 on:** March 21, 2012, 08:27:47 AM »

Quote from: skydivingninja on March 21, 2012, 07:31:26 AM

I don't get it.

But yeah I don't think "John Carter" is a name that many people except hardcore early sci-fi nerds would know, and I have seen almost zero advertising for this thing, so yeah, I can see why its losing money.

Are you serious? Prior to release the advertising on this thing was absolutely insane, it was fucking everywhere.

Dr. DTVT · « **Reply #30 on:** March 21, 2012, 08:32:27 AM »

Especially on ESPN, which is owned by Disney. I'm sure ABC got plastered as well.

AcidLameLTE · « **Reply #31 on:** March 21, 2012, 09:08:07 AM »

Going to see it tonight but I'm not paying for it.

Sorry Disney.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #32 on:** March 21, 2012, 09:21:55 AM »

I've only seen like 6 commercials for it and a Big ass banner on our biggest theater, which was up for a few.months with no advertising whatsoever, I was like what the fuck is john carter.

Nekov · « **Reply #33 on:** March 21, 2012, 09:27:44 AM »

Quote from: AcidLameLTE on March 21, 2012, 09:08:07 AM

Going to see it tonight but I'm not paying for it.

Sorry Disney.

AcidLameLTE · « **Reply #34 on:** March 21, 2012, 09:31:39 AM »

Nope. Friend works at the local cinema so he's getting me in for free

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