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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1505 on: August 06, 2013, 01:22:05 AM »
Hmmm, I don't get the love for Start Of Something Beautiful. It's easily my least favourite on Deadwing.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1506 on: August 06, 2013, 02:06:51 AM »
 :( It's probably my second favourite on the album next to Mellotron Scratch.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1507 on: August 06, 2013, 02:20:16 AM »
Hopefully it will grow on me, but currently I just think it's annoying :D

EDIT: fucking grammar error
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1508 on: August 06, 2013, 02:49:40 AM »
The Start of Something Beautiful is lovely. Anyhow, my favorite PT-songs would look something like this atm:

1. Dark Matter
2. Hatesong
3. Trains
4. Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled
5. Drown With Me
6. Buying New Soul
7. Even Less (14 minute version)
8. Mellotron Scratch
9. Anesthetize
10. Sleep Together
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1509 on: August 06, 2013, 07:34:52 AM »
I've always liked The Start of Something Beautiful, but I didn't actually love it until a couple of years ago. So it can grow on you :)
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1510 on: August 06, 2013, 12:37:39 PM »
TSoSB is a real grower, I didn't like it at first but now I love it :)
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1511 on: August 06, 2013, 12:57:08 PM »
Cool :tup

There's hope :smiley:
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1512 on: August 07, 2013, 02:56:17 AM »
LBS is starting to really grow on me :metal
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1513 on: August 07, 2013, 08:28:22 AM »
Quote from: Sketchy on August 05, 2013, 02:39:22 PM
GfD is very good, and very moody, so if you're a King Crimson fan, you'll probably love it.


I hate King Crimson, so I guess I'll avoid that one  :lol






No one answered my question about "The Incident."  Any comments?  Good?  Bad? 


So far I'd have to say that "Deadwing" is BY FAR my favorite of theirs, with probably "In Absentia" in second place.  I went back and listened to "Lightbulb Sun" again, but was pretty "meh" on it overall....
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1514 on: August 07, 2013, 09:03:39 AM »
The Incident is great.  I know I am kind of in the minority on that one, but I think it is.  It's pretty rocking, too, for the most part.
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« Reply #1515 on: August 07, 2013, 09:10:02 AM »
Yeah, The Incident is good; you'll like it.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1516 on: August 07, 2013, 09:14:17 AM »
There is some amazing work on The Incident.   It's just that after you've heard it a couple of times, nothing really compels you to come back to it. 

Every time I hear it, I think of how great it is...but nothing as good as the rest of their stuff...so it ends up being labeled as 'OK' and gathering dust.
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« Reply #1517 on: August 07, 2013, 09:23:20 AM »
Quote from: jammindude on August 07, 2013, 09:14:17 AM
There is some amazing work on The Incident.   It's just that after you've heard it a couple of times, nothing really compels you to come back to it. 

Every time I hear it, I think of how great it is...but nothing as good as the rest of their stuff...so it ends up being labeled as 'OK' and gathering dust.

I totally disagree.  The Incident, Time Flies, Octane Twisted, I Drive the Hearse, Flicker and Bonnie the Cat are all great songs, ones I go back to all of the time when I listen to PT.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1518 on: August 07, 2013, 12:08:30 PM »
Alright, I'll put The Incident on my list then.  I still have about $80 worth of free shopping points on Amazon.com, so next time I do a download order I'll get it.


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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1519 on: August 07, 2013, 12:18:25 PM »
I think that I, along with lots of other fans, were so excited and amazed by FOABP that when TI came out, it was just way too hard for it to top FOABP. Expectations were high, there was a new bar to reach and I think TI just comes out just under that high-set bar.

However, that doesn't mean it's HORRIBLE album on it's own right. It was just over-shadowed by what came before it. I'd say it's as good as Deadwing (in many spots), but I also think the explicit concept of the main album probably turned some fans off from the onset. But to be honest, it's not much different than the ideas that their previous 3 albums were conceptual in nature as well, if not more so than TI in terms of creating a story.

TI isn't bad, and I do enjoy it from time to time, but it doesn't really do much different than the previous 3 albums did, it just sort of takes what they did, both good and bad, and refined it a bit more. I do like the idea and concept of the main disc, and I really enjoy the other four songs on the 2nd disc, so it's not a bad over-all.

I still like IA, DW and FOABP better though.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1520 on: August 07, 2013, 12:22:23 PM »
^ I mostly agree with that.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1521 on: August 07, 2013, 12:27:09 PM »
Good to hear, Barry. :hat

However, I have to take umbrage with the comment that The Incident didn't do anything that hadn't been done on the previous 00s albums...what other album features a song cycle the likes of The Incident Disc 1?

Besides, why in the hell does it even matter?  The quality of the music is what matters; the band doesn't have to reinvent the wheel on every damn album. 

Personally, I think some people were turned off by it a bit cause they heard "a song cycle" and automatically assumed it would be an epic, which it really isn't, at least not in the traditional prog sense.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1522 on: August 07, 2013, 12:29:22 PM »
I was turned off because it wasn't that good, in my opinion.
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« Reply #1523 on: August 07, 2013, 01:11:12 PM »
RATE THE GAVIN ALBUMS....

1. Deadwing
2. In Absentia
3. Fear of a Blank Planet
4. The Incident


And while the first three may shuffle on most lists...I'd bet that the majority will have TI in 4th place. 
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1524 on: August 07, 2013, 01:19:05 PM »
Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on August 07, 2013, 12:29:22 PM
I was turned off because it wasn't that good, in my opinion.
I agree with this.

1. Deadwing
2. Nil Recurring
3. Fear of a Blank Planet
4. In Absentia
5. The Incident
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« Reply #1525 on: August 07, 2013, 01:23:45 PM »
Fear Of A Blank Planet
In Absentia
Deadwing
The Incident
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1526 on: August 07, 2013, 01:23:57 PM »
Quote from: The Letter M on August 07, 2013, 12:18:25 PM


I still like IA, DW and FOABP better though.




That seems to be the prevailing opinion on Amazon.com as well.  I have a few of the other albums.  I enjoy about 3/4 of IA, pretty much all of DW and most of FOABP, although it seems to get a bit ponderous for a while....."Lightbulb Sun" has a few tracks I like, but I've never really felt compelled to listen to it again after a very rare spin once in a while.  Same goes for "Stupid Dream" and "The Sky Moves Sideways"
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1527 on: August 07, 2013, 01:28:44 PM »
Seems that Nil Recurring is made up of some leftovers from the FOABP sessions. 


Worth a listen?  It's less than $4.00 on Amazon.

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1528 on: August 07, 2013, 01:29:58 PM »
By the way, of these albums I have, Deadwing stands head and shoulders above the rest, imo
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« Reply #1529 on: August 07, 2013, 01:40:39 PM »
Quote from: kirksnosehair on August 07, 2013, 01:28:44 PM
Seems that Nil Recurring is made up of some leftovers from the FOABP sessions. 


Worth a listen?  It's less than $4.00 on Amazon.
Definitely worth a listen, especially for that price. I like it more than Fear of a Blank Planet and Normal is one of my favorites.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1530 on: August 07, 2013, 01:40:55 PM »
Quote from: kirksnosehair on August 07, 2013, 01:28:44 PM
Seems that Nil Recurring is made up of some leftovers from the FOABP sessions. 


Worth a listen?  It's less than $4.00 on Amazon.




I think it's worth it. An instrumental (with Robert Fripp), and three other cools songs. "Normal" is the original version of Sentimental before Steven Wilson decided to strip the soul song down into more of a simplified / ballad. What Happens Now and Cheating The Polygraph are both great too
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1531 on: August 07, 2013, 01:53:14 PM »
Alright, just downloaded Nil Recurring and The Incident.  If either of these is HALF as good as Deadwing I'll be a happy camper  :hat
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« Reply #1532 on: August 07, 2013, 02:05:03 PM »
It may be sacrilegious of me, but I think of Nil Recurring and FOABP as a single entity given that they were produced from the same/near the same writing sessions.

Also, all of the tracks (all 10) were included in the FOABP vinyl, and that running order how I listen to the album now, so it's more or less official. Besides, opening Side 4 with "Nil Recurring" is great, especially since the opening drum groove is the same used at the end of the opening/title track. "Normal" echoes "Sentimental" and quotes "Anesthetize" and "What Happens Now?" name checks "My Ashes" in the lyrics - it's also a better ending for the album, lyrically and musically, than "Sleep Together". I know that might sound weird, but I love it as the ending for the album...then again I also love "Half-Light" as the ending to Deadwing more so than "Glass Arm Shattering". I love the somber endings to PT albums like that, just like "Dark Matter" and "Collapse Light Into Earth".

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1533 on: August 07, 2013, 02:26:40 PM »
Quote from: kirksnosehair on August 07, 2013, 01:53:14 PM
Alright, just downloaded Nil Recurring and The Incident.  If either of these is HALF as good as Deadwing I'll be a happy camper  :hat

All of the songs on Nil Recurring rock, so I think you'll dig it.  What Happens Now? and Cheating the Polygraph are all kinds of awesome.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1534 on: August 07, 2013, 03:09:08 PM »
Gavin-albums would be:

FOABP
Deadwing
In Absentia
The Incident
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« Reply #1535 on: August 07, 2013, 07:44:28 PM »
The Incident
(Nil Recurring)
Deadwing
In Absentia
Fear Of A Blank Planet
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1536 on: August 07, 2013, 07:48:43 PM »
Deadwing
Fear Of A Blank Planet
In Absentia
(Nil Recurring)






The Incident
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« Reply #1537 on: August 07, 2013, 07:51:07 PM »
In Absentia
Deadwing
(Nil Recurring)
Fear of a Blank Planet
The Incident
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« Reply #1538 on: August 07, 2013, 11:00:08 PM »
Deadwing
The Incident
In Absentia
Fear of a Blank Planet

But all are tremendous.  Deadwing is 5 stars for me, and the others would all be 4 1/2.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1539 on: August 08, 2013, 06:00:29 AM »
(Nil Recurring)
In Absentia
Fear of a Blank Planet
The Incident
Deadwing

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