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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1400 on: July 28, 2013, 09:44:55 AM »
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The Incident > Fear of a Blank Planet.

That's right.  Both are great, but The Incident is just a little bit better.



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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1401 on: July 28, 2013, 09:49:07 AM »
Quote from: KevShmev on July 28, 2013, 09:43:08 AM
The Incident > Fear of a Blank Planet.

That's right.  Both are great, but The Incident is just a little bit better.
Maybe if you compare the first disc of TI to FOABP, since both are basically perfect. But disc 2 drags it down.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1402 on: July 28, 2013, 10:26:48 AM »
Quote from: aprilethereal on July 28, 2013, 06:27:01 AM
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Thinking back, I did grade it too harshly; it should at least be above FoaBP.

What's not to like about FOABP?


Musically it's not bad but lyrically it's borderline atrocious. I'm probably in a minority here but I find Nil Recurring a much better, more concise listen for material that came out of that recording session.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1403 on: July 28, 2013, 11:20:30 AM »
Musically it's boring and lyrically it's atrocious. And you're not in the minority as to Nil Recurring. I think that should've been the album.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1404 on: July 28, 2013, 12:30:43 PM »
Nil Recurring is indeed awesome, although I do not share the previous poster's thoughts about FOABP.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1405 on: July 28, 2013, 12:31:43 PM »
I like the lyrics to Fear Of A Blank Planet.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1406 on: July 28, 2013, 12:34:52 PM »
Listened to FoaBP earlier today. I don't know what you're talking about :metal
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1407 on: July 28, 2013, 12:45:01 PM »
I used to not like FoaBP as much, now that's completely changed. Sleep Together and Anesthetize are both amongst their best songs. Still think Nil Recurring is possibly better though.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1408 on: July 28, 2013, 12:48:53 PM »
My only beef with FOABP is still that the title track is not that great.  I mean, it's enjoyable, but PT probably has 70-75 songs that are better, and kicking off the album with such an average (by PT standards) song makes it hard for me to rate it higher than the albums that start off with songs that are much better, and are also just as good, if not better, the rest of the way.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1409 on: July 28, 2013, 01:05:17 PM »
I really enjoy the titled track (well not as much as I used to)... it was THE song that made me interested in PT and finally break down and check them out.
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1410 on: July 28, 2013, 01:13:28 PM »
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I really enjoy the titled track (well not as much as I used to)... it was THE song that made me interested in PT and finally break down and check them out.
Same here.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1411 on: July 28, 2013, 01:17:06 PM »
My buddy burned me a copy of FoaBT and it sat there for months. I'd listen to the title track and get bored and turn it off. One day I said fuck it and played it all the way through and :heart
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1412 on: July 28, 2013, 01:18:59 PM »
Quote from: JayOctavarium on July 28, 2013, 01:05:17 PM
I really enjoy the titled track (well not as much as I used to)... it was THE song that made me interested in PT and finally break down and check them out.

This is true for me as well. I really liked the almost rap-like quality it had.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1413 on: July 28, 2013, 01:28:38 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on July 28, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
My only beef with FOABP is still that the title track is not that great.  I mean, it's enjoyable, but PT probably has 70-75 songs that are better, and kicking off the album with such an average (by PT standards) song makes it hard for me to rate it higher than the albums that start off with songs that are much better, and are also just as good, if not better, the rest of the way.

I actually think the title track is one of the highlights of the entire album, and probably one of, if not THE best album opener of their entire catalog.   I've turned many people on to PT, and this track was often the first one that really "hooked" them.    I will usually open up my mix CD's with this song because of how strong it is.

It's not just the quality of the song itself, it's the message that resonates.   It's something extremely relatable.  We see this problem in society everywhere we look.  Even if you're not a part of it, you see it...so you instantly relate to what the song is talking about. 
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1414 on: July 28, 2013, 01:49:53 PM »
Quote from: Super Dude on July 28, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
It's a very boring album. Some nice melodies here and there, but nothing that sticks.
That's how I feel about The Incident.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1415 on: July 28, 2013, 01:59:49 PM »
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Quote from: Super Dude on July 28, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
It's a very boring album. Some nice melodies here and there, but nothing that sticks.
That's how I feel about The Incident.

I agree about TI.   When I hear it, I hear some amazing things.   But it doesn't really have anything that really sticks with you.   
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1416 on: July 28, 2013, 02:03:45 PM »
I would say FOABP (the song) musically is fantastic. It's the lyrics that has some issues (and you could say this about most of the album if you are picky), but I'd say it's their best album by far. It doesn't have any filler-songs, which most of the other albums has. (The filler songs doesn't have to be bad, just sorta meh)
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« Reply #1417 on: July 28, 2013, 02:15:09 PM »
I agree with the love for the title track. It, along with Piano Lessons, got me into Porcupine Tree. It's a 10/10 song.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1418 on: July 28, 2013, 02:34:38 PM »
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Quote from: Super Dude on July 28, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
It's a very boring album. Some nice melodies here and there, but nothing that sticks.
That's how I feel about The Incident.

I would say on the whole I also feel that way, the exceptions again being Kneel and Disconnect and Time Flies, and even that is more a matter of "better than everything else" than excellent on their own.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1419 on: July 28, 2013, 04:51:54 PM »
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Quote from: ? on July 28, 2013, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: Super Dude on July 28, 2013, 07:17:39 AM
It's a very boring album. Some nice melodies here and there, but nothing that sticks.
That's how I feel about The Incident.

I would say on the whole I also feel that way, the exceptions again being Kneel and Disconnect and Time Flies, and even that is more a matter of "better than everything else" than excellent on their own.
Yeah the piano in Kneel and Disconnect is beautiful. Shame it's so short.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1420 on: July 28, 2013, 07:27:18 PM »
Quote from: jammindude on July 28, 2013, 01:28:38 PM
It's not just the quality of the song itself, it's the message that resonates.   It's something extremely relatable.  We see this problem in society everywhere we look.  Even if you're not a part of it, you see it...so you instantly relate to what the song is talking about.

I get the message the song is trying to send but it comes across as if it was written by a curmudgeon with no real grasp on what they are writing about. Wilson's made his opinions about this type of subject matter before but for some reason it really comes off exaggerated and borderline cringeworthy. 
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1421 on: July 30, 2013, 10:37:57 AM »
The package with Deadwing, Stupid Dream and Lightbulb Sun arrived today.

Deadwing was absolutely awesome. I didn't really enjoy the other two though, apart from the last three songs on LBS, which were pretty nice.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1422 on: July 30, 2013, 10:39:09 AM »
Stupid Dream will probably grow on you, maybe LBS too :)
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« Reply #1423 on: July 30, 2013, 10:42:04 AM »
Really? Well, PT's pre - In Absentia takes more time to digest, IMO. Actually, Lightbulb Sun is my favorite PT record because it's extremely personal to me. Their last 4 are absolutely mindblowing (IA, Deadwing, FOABP, Incident), but there's a super peculiar quality in their earlier albums that is magical... (and by earlier albums I'm refering to Signify onwards, their first records are not for everyone  :lol although I enjoy them from time to time.)
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« Reply #1424 on: July 30, 2013, 11:38:00 AM »
Yes, I hope they will grow on me, they just did nothing to me in the first listen :smiley:
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« Reply #1425 on: July 30, 2013, 11:49:57 AM »
They are a bit amateurish, but they'll grow on you.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1426 on: July 30, 2013, 12:43:44 PM »
Quote from: ? on July 30, 2013, 10:39:09 AM
Stupid Dream will probably grow on you, maybe LBS too :)

yep - don't give up on that one
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« Reply #1427 on: July 30, 2013, 12:57:06 PM »
And why should I give up on LBS? :P
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1428 on: July 30, 2013, 01:04:33 PM »
You shouldn't give up, but LBS is still one of my least favorite PT albums, although I've given it many chances.
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« Reply #1429 on: July 30, 2013, 01:05:08 PM »
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You shouldn't give up, but LBS is still one of my least favorite PT albums, although I've given it many chances.

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« Reply #1430 on: July 30, 2013, 01:08:51 PM »
The story behind it:
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I took it from this video as a kind of compromise, because this pic looked funnier than the Signify one and someone was using the original In Absentia cover here, so I thought the Photoshopeth'd version might not look different enough when it's so small.
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« Reply #1431 on: July 30, 2013, 01:26:31 PM »
Honestly, LBS's first impression was much better than Stupid Dream's. But that's just the first impression, so it doesn't really mean anything.
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« Reply #1432 on: July 30, 2013, 01:39:01 PM »
Lightbulb Sun is definitely a grower, trust me.
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Re: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb
« Reply #1433 on: July 30, 2013, 02:39:55 PM »
Stupid Dream actually had the best first impression on me. Sometimes I argue it might be my favourite by them even today. I'm in love with every track. And Baby Dream in Cellophane is their most underrated song imo.
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« Reply #1434 on: July 30, 2013, 02:48:53 PM »
I always thought Deadwing was a very forgettable album. It has a couple of my favorite songs on there (Glass Arm Shattering, Mellotron Scratch) but the rest of the album is a very big meh.
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