Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb

[bout to crash]

Because I love when your blood flows to the right places (), I got less lazy. Here you go:

Rock Square: Steven has said that he is now tired of heavy metal and that he feels that the vocabulary of heavy metal sounds is now overly familiar and played out. So he’d like Porcupine Tree to ditch the metal sound next time and go somewhere new. What’s your take on that and do you have any ideas on what the next iteration of Porcupine Tree might sound like?

Richard Barbieri : I completely agree with him and I think we all feel the same. We’ve had three or four albums now in that kind of ballpark. There’s no doubt that it’s time for a change, a different direction. I spoke with Steven and he was saying, for a start, he’s not interested in that kind of guitar style anymore or particularly too much guitar. He’d like to be writing on keyboards and playing in the studio on keyboards. Which is great, because I think that brings about a completely different vibe and a different kind of composition.

As to what kind of music that we’re going to make, we really don’t know until we get together. We probably all have our own little agendas and our own manifestos. For me, it’s always been about trying to make the arrangements around the songs more experimental. That’s my big thing and that’s not changed since I got into music, as far back as Japan on tracks like “Ghosts” and things like that. A great song will hold up regardless of the backing. But instead of putting in those lovely, lush chords, just try to work in a different way. Just try to break the chords down a bit and make different sounds or arrange it just slightly different.

I guess the first thing would be to get together and just talk about what kind of direction. It just naturally will be different. It always has been in Porcupine Tree’s past. Often it’s down to Steven’s influences at the time. He’s generally quite open to musical influences so, who knows?

[TioJorge]

 

Awesome blossom! That's wonderful, I'm glad that Barbieri is on board with that train of thought as well. Oh boy! Now I'm gonna be anticipating the release of PT even more after Wilson is through touring for Raven. That's great news.

[Zantera]

A PT without the metal-influence and more keyboard-oriented sounds really interesting to me. Nothing against the last couple of albums, but it's really awesome to see the band try something else and not get stuck in the same rut. (if PT ever get back together and make that next album)

[orcus116]

I heard both The Blind House and Last Chance back to back at a bar last night. I have no idea who put it on but I was surprised even the jukebox had it.

[TioJorge]

Badass bar!

[The King in Crimson]

Some bars have pretty sweet jukeboxes.  I even heard some Opeth at a bar once.

I put "Arriving Somewhere..." and "Octavarium" on at a bar once.  I bet the other patrons hated me.

[Sketchy]

Keyboards? Experimental? FUCK YES EVERYWHERE

[bout to crash]

 

These new digital jukeboxes have just about everything. It can be pricey, but it's usually worth it. I played Arriving Somewhere in a bar once, and it got my friend and I into a conversation with an adorable dude who couldn't believe someone in there knew PT.

[Perpetual Change]

Very glad PT are done with "metal" finally.

[jammindude]

Very glad PT are done with "metal" finally.

THIS!

[Ħ]

Their metal style was cool. But there's not much more they can do with it. Good move.

[TioJorge]

Amen to that.

Shit. Now I really want some new PT. GOD DAMN IT I WAS DOING SO GOOD. *itchitchscratchscratch*

[Nel]

Their metal style was cool. But there's not much more they can do with it. Good move.

Pretty much. The "metal" era of PT is my favorite, but I'm all for exploring new ground.

[?]

The bit about writing more on keyboards sounds promising - I know PT aren't going to repeat themselves or revisit any old album, but it'd be nice to hear some shades of the psychedelic and electronic elements of the earlier stuff on the next album.

[Sketchy]

Amen to that.

Shit. Now I really want some new PT. GOD DAMN IT I WAS DOING SO GOOD. *itchitchscratchscratch*

Lol, this indeed.

[Mladen]

Porcupine tree is one of those ''free'' bands. They had their psychadelic period, then their slightly more accessible works, then they got heavier. Yet they remained interesting throughout all their musical incarnations. I'll look forward to any of their future releases whatever they might sound like, I'm really curious. 

[wasteland]

I just made Milena listen to "Normal" for the first time. I have a question for you diehard porcupines: why was the song left out of FOAB in the first place?

[?]

I read that Steven thought there were too many long songs on the album so he reworked Normal and the result was Sentimental, which made it to the album.

[MoraWintersoul]

I just made Milena listen to "Normal" for the first time. I have a question for you diehard porcupines: why was the song left out of FOAB in the first place?

Oh please, like I wouldn't have done it myself at some point

[wasteland]

I just made Milena listen to "Normal" for the first time. I have a question for you diehard porcupines: why was the song left out of FOAB in the first place?

Oh please, like I wouldn't have done it myself at some point

The wave function of the Universe has collepsed, Mili. What the future might have been is now immaterial to the eyes of men and gods. :3

[MoraWintersoul]

The wave function of the Universe has collepsed, Mili. What the future might have been is now immaterial to the eyes of men and gods. :3

You know that reality is immaterial, right?

Also, silly SW, there is no such a thing as too many long songs.

[wasteland]

The wave function of the Universe has collepsed, Mili. What the future might have been is now immaterial to the eyes of men and gods. :3

You know that reality is immaterial, right?

Eh, tell that to the man that just might come in through here with a gun...

[MoraWintersoul]

Eh, tell that to the man that just might come in through here with a gun...

I heard he doesn't wanna be here because of his suffering, because of his illness.

[?]

I'm kneeling on the floor... Wait, what?!

Also, silly SW, there is no such a thing as too many long songs.

There are albums with too many long songs (Black Clouds & Silver Linings, I'm looking at you!) but I don't think FOABP would've suffered much if they had put Normal on it instead of Sentimental.

[wasteland]

I'm kneeling on the floor... Wait, what?!

Also, silly SW, there is no such a thing as too many long songs.

There are albums with too many long songs (Black Clouds & Silver Linings, I'm looking at you!) but I don't think FOABP would've suffered much if they had put Normal on it instead of Sentimental.

I didn't know that the two songs are the same piece of music in different times of its evolution. I have always believed (and still do) that the album would have worked great with both songs in the lot, I tend to like in-album references.

[KevShmev]

Also, silly SW, there is no such a thing as too many long songs.

There are albums with too many long songs (Black Clouds & Silver Linings, I'm looking at you!) but I don't think FOABP would've suffered much if they had put Normal on it instead of Sentimental.

I agree with the former (too many long songs can be a hindrance to the flow of an album), but not with the latter (Sentimental works perfectly in the context of FOABP; the end of it is the perfect set-up for Way out of Here).

[Xanthul]

I prefer Sentimental over Normal. In fact Sentimental is probably my favorite song in the whole album.

[?]

I agree with the former (too many long songs can be a hindrance to the flow of an album), but not with the latter (Sentimental works perfectly in the context of FOABP; the end of it is the perfect set-up for Way out of Here).

It's true that Sentimental works better in the context of the album, but Normal wouldn't have made the album too long if it was there instead. But both songs are equally good IMO.

And since nobody seemed to notice this in the funny stuff thread, I'll put this here: PT shreds

[wasteland]

And since nobody seemed to notice this in the funny stuff thread, I'll put this here: PT shreds

That's just beautiful. Genius point on the one who created that 

[MoraWintersoul]

There are albums with too many long songs (Black Clouds & Silver Linings, I'm looking at you!)

In the light of your example: *too many GOOD long songs
(BCSL, now two people are looking at you)

[Big Hath]

And since nobody seemed to notice this in the funny stuff thread, I'll put this here: PT shreds

That's just beautiful. Genius point on the one who created that 

my love for the "<insert band> shreds" videos knows no bounds


hahaha - those keyboard sounds!!!

[TioJorge]

 
I love those videos too but somehow I missed that one. That's fucking brilliant. I love the keyboard parts....

[Heretic]

I prefer Sentimental over Normal. In fact Sentimental is probably my favorite song in the whole album.

THIS so much.

[nightmare_cinema]

Sentimental is also my favourite song on the album. I adore Aneasthetize but Sentimental just gets to me more, and I find myself listening to it far more frequently. Don't know whether I'd pick that or Normal if I could only have one forever, though. Probably would have to go for Normal purely based on the 'gotta see the waves'.

Anybody else ever noticed how similar Veneno Para las Hadas (solo SW) and I Find That I'm Not There (PT) are?

[seasonsinthesky]

I prefer Sentimental over Normal. In fact Sentimental is probably my favorite song in the whole album.

THIS so much.

indeed, though i find my main problem with "Normal" is the shoddy/demo-like recording quality of the acoustic instruments (i.e. not electric guitar and keys). it and "What Happens Now?" suffer from severe under-production compared to the rest, which a) makes it obvious they were the ones written after the fact, and b) makes it difficult to enjoy them in the same context.

however, they sound infinitely better on Anesthetize, which is totally awesome front to back. i'm glad those songs were on the setlist.

Anybody else ever noticed how similar Veneno Para las Hadas (solo SW) and I Find That I'm Not There (PT) are?

yeah, that was a common comment when Insurgentes came out. personally, i like the recycling, as both are some of my favourite SW songs.