Author Topic: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb (Read 226857 times)

Zantera · « **Reply #1085 on:** November 25, 2012, 02:55:48 AM »

Russia on Ice is quite awesome, but I prefer Hatesong from LBS.

Sketchy · « **Reply #1086 on:** November 25, 2012, 05:03:47 AM »

Quote from: Ħ on November 24, 2012, 12:03:39 AM

Ya I don't know either. I just thought that RWF was universally just regarded as one of LBS's "sellout" songs (like WWWB)

...But RWF is genius. Those strings at the end are godly.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #1087 on:** November 25, 2012, 10:03:52 AM »

Since we're talking about Lightbulb Sun so much...

1: Hatesong
2: Russia On Ice
3: Lightbulb Sun

4: Rest Will Flow
5: Feel So Low
6: Where We Would Be
7: Shesmovedon
8: Last Chance
9: How Is Your Life Today?
10: Four Chords That Made A Million

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #1088 on:** November 25, 2012, 10:06:50 AM »

1. Russia On Ice
2. Hatesong
3. Shesmovedon
4. Lightbulb Sun
5. Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled
6. The Rest Will Flow
7. Feel So Low
8. Where We Would Be
9. How is Your Life Today?
10. Four Chords That Made a Million

Zantera · « **Reply #1089 on:** November 25, 2012, 10:09:53 AM »

1. Hatesong
2. Last Chance
3. Lightbulb Sun
4. Russia on Ice
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5. Shesmovedon
6. How is Your Life Today?
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7. Where We Would Be
8. Feel So Low
9. Four Chords That Made a Million
10. The Rest Will Flow

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #1090 on:** November 25, 2012, 10:16:17 AM »

1. Russia On Ice
2. Lightbulb Sun
3. Last Chance...
4. Shesmovedon
5. Hatesong
6. Rest Will Flow
7. Four Chords...
8. How Is Your Life Today?
9. Where We Would Be
10. Feel So Low

Heretic · « **Reply #1091 on:** November 25, 2012, 11:26:24 AM »

Feel So Low
The Rest Will Flow
Lightbulb Sun
Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled
Russia on Ice
Shesmovedon
Hatesong
How Is Your Life Today?
Where We Would Be
Four Chords That Made a Million

Ħ · « **Reply #1092 on:** November 25, 2012, 12:25:43 PM »

Lightbulb Sun
Feel So Low
Shesmovedon
Russia On Ice/Hatesong

Last Chance To Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled

How Is Your Life Today?
Four Chords That Made A Million
Where We Would Be
The Rest Will Flow

jag66 · « **Reply #1093 on:** November 25, 2012, 12:33:24 PM »

Lightbulb Sun
Shesmovedon
Russia on ice
Hatesong
The rest will flow
Last chance to evacuate earth
Feel so low
How is your life today
Where would we be
4 chords that made a million

jammindude · « **Reply #1094 on:** November 25, 2012, 01:04:46 PM »

1. Hatesong
2. Lightbulb Sun
3. Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before it is Recycled
4. Feel So Low
5. How is Your Life Today

6. Shesmovedon
7. The Rest Will Flow
8. Where We Would Be

9. Russia On Ice
10. Four Chords That Made a Million

bout to crash · « **Reply #1095 on:** November 25, 2012, 03:39:15 PM »

I strongly prefer the first half of Russia on Ice. In the beginning I loved all of it, but the second half just started to sound more and more like meaningless wanking after what I find to be a very strong emotional start. That fucking sigh crushes me every time.

As for Strip the Soul, I didn't really like it the first couple years of having that album, and now I love the whole thing.

Also, totally disagree with the idea of Rest Will Flow and Where We Would Be being "sellout" songs. They're both beautiful... and SW can write a great fucking pop song. Nothing wrong with that. My friend actually just sent me a clip of him doing an acoustic WWWB, and it was awesome.

Ħ · « **Reply #1096 on:** November 25, 2012, 04:36:42 PM »

Quote from: bout to crash on November 25, 2012, 03:39:15 PM

I strongly prefer the first half of Russia on Ice. In the beginning I loved all of it, but the second half just started to sound more and more like meaningless wanking after what I find to be a very strong emotional start. That fucking sigh crushes me every time.

Timestamp for the sigh?

Yeah, the second half of ROI just isn't done well. It's cool but the mix is kinda...flat. It's lacking an essential lower register to give it that fullness.

bout to crash · « **Reply #1097 on:** November 25, 2012, 05:18:51 PM »

Dunno the timestamp, but right after he says "Can't stop myself drinking"

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #1098 on:** November 25, 2012, 06:18:29 PM »

Both parts of Russia On Ice are equally awesome in two totally different ways.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #1099 on:** November 25, 2012, 08:55:57 PM »

I decided to give Porcupine Tree a chance today and I'm currently working my way through my first listen of The Incident. Am I starting with the right album? What should I go for next? etc, etc. Please post recommendations, since I like what I hear so far.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1100 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:05:24 PM »

Personally, I wouldn't say it's the right album, although from an objective standpoint it does give the best general summary of their most recent sound. Basically I feel like I wouldn't have liked it had I not already been a fan. I started from In Absentia, then Deadwing, Fear of a Blank Planet, Lightbulb Sun, and then backwards from there.

glaurung · « **Reply #1101 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:05:58 PM »

It's not the album I'd pick as a first one but if you like that one just work your way back. Their sound has changed a lot over the years so going in sequence like that wouldn't be too big of a shock.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #1102 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:09:49 PM »

I like what I hear so far, but the short songs in the front half of the album feels really strange when you listen to them together in a row.

Ħ · « **Reply #1103 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:10:20 PM »

Yeah, just work your way backward, RMV.

Nel · « **Reply #1104 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:15:11 PM »

The Incident was my first one, and I turned out fine.

Just work your way back, man. That's what I did.

Super Dude · « **Reply #1105 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:16:32 PM »

I've personally been on an intense Deadwing kick lately.

The Letter M · « **Reply #1106 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:19:55 PM »

If you listen to their discography backwards, you end up with something like Anathema's discography going forwards.

You start heavy and go softer and more atmospheric/Floydian!

Really though, start with any of these three - Lightbulb Sun, In Absentia, Fear Of A Blank Planet.

-Marc.

Ħ · « **Reply #1107 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:25:07 PM »

LBS as a good album to get acquainted with PT? Like it or not, it really is the oddball out of the SD - TI era. I'd say it's not so good for a PT n00b.

The Letter M · « **Reply #1108 on:** November 25, 2012, 09:28:26 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on November 25, 2012, 09:25:07 PM

LBS as a good album to get acquainted with PT? Like it or not, it really is the oddball out of the SD - TI era. I'd say it's not so good for a PT n00b.

It's a pretty transitional and experimental album, something that PT does very well. I'd say Stupid Dream, too, as it is a bit more consistent, but I think LBS has more to offer in terms of range of sounds and styles. Whether one likes it or not has no bearing on whether one objectively thinks it's a good place to start. Personally, I *love* SD over LBS, but I would still recommend LBS first. If I wanted to recommend SAFER albums, I'd go with SD and DW, but LBS and IA have more to offer, like I said, whereas the other two are more consistent and not as wildly experimental.

-Marc.

ColdFireYYZ · « **Reply #1109 on:** November 25, 2012, 10:25:09 PM »

Quote from: Ħ on November 25, 2012, 09:25:07 PM

LBS as a good album to get acquainted with PT? Like it or not, it really is the oddball out of the SD - TI era. I'd say it's not so good for a PT n00b.

It was my first PT album. I was pretty unimpressed. I didn't think it was bad, but after hearing how great PT was I wasn't entirely convinced. Luckily I heard Deadwing (or maybe it was IA?) next and that made me a fan. At that time, though, I was more into heavier stuff as I had been a Rush fan for a few months and had just started listening to DT. LBS really didn't align with what I listened to. I remember thinking that Russia on Ice was boring but I love it, and the whole album, now.

So overall I wouldn't recommend it as a starting place.

? · « **Reply #1110 on:** November 26, 2012, 10:48:36 AM »

I know I'm late, but here's my LBS ranking:
1. Hatesong
2. Russia on Ice
3. Lightbulb Sun
4. Feel So Low
5. Shesmovedon
6. Last Chance
7. Four Chords
8. How is Your Life Today?
9. Where We Would Be
10. The Rest Will Flow

And since Stupid Dream seemed to get talked about a lot as well, here's how I rank the songs on that album:
1. A Smart Kid
2. Don't Hate Me
3. Slave Called Shiver
4. Even Less
5. Stop Swimming
6. Piano Lessons
7. Pure Narcotic
8. Tinto Brass
9. Baby Dream in Cellophane
10. This is No Rehearsal
11. Stranger by the Minute
12. Stupid Dream

EDIT: My first PT album was Fear of a Blank Planet and it was definitely a great starting point!

Jiangsu · « **Reply #1111 on:** November 26, 2012, 10:49:27 AM »

I would second those saying In Absentia is a good starting point. It's what got me into PT, and is justifiably stunning.

jammindude · « **Reply #1112 on:** November 26, 2012, 11:58:46 AM »

My first album was IA...and I liked some of it, and didn't like other parts....*AT FIRST*. But it did sit on my shelf for a year. Then a friend convinced me to buy Stupid Dream. And then that gathered dust for another year. (again, there were parts I loved, and parts that didn't grab me...at first). But as with any "slow grower" band, the stuff that I *did* like kept me coming back until the stuff that didn't grab me right away "clicked"...

If I had to recommend a starting point...I would say that Deadwing was the first PT album to really "grab" me right out of the starting gate. FOABP is also one of those albums that still has a lot going on, but just seems to grab you right away. That opening riff on the album (along with the very poignant message) is immediately riveting. So I would say Deadwing or FOABP should be the starting point for any PT n00b.

KevShmev · « **Reply #1113 on:** November 26, 2012, 12:01:20 PM »

Signify and Stupid Dream were the immediate grabbers for me, on first listens.

Blackest Eyes and Trains were as well, but the rest on In Absentia took a bit of time.

Even though I love Deadwing to death, I'd probably not recommend it right away simply because Shallow should not be the 2nd song by PT a possible new fan should hear.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Shallow for what it is, but it could turn some off right away.

nightmare_cinema · « **Reply #1114 on:** November 26, 2012, 12:09:21 PM »

Coma Divine was the first album I got by PT (yeah, bad choice), somehow 'Signify' whetted my appetite for more. Then a friend sent me shesmovedon and the rest is history...

jammindude · « **Reply #1115 on:** November 26, 2012, 12:10:15 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on November 26, 2012, 12:01:20 PM

Signify and Stupid Dream were the immediate grabbers for me, on first listens.

Blackest Eyes and Trains were as well, but the rest on In Absentia took a bit of time.

Even though I love Deadwing to death, I'd probably not recommend it right away simply because Shallow should not be the 2nd song by PT a possible new fan should hear. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Shallow for what it is, but it could turn some off right away.

It would depend on whether or not the potential fan is already a metal fan or not. But still...you're right. Even though it's not my all time favorite PT album...I personally think FOABP is a nearly perfect starting point. It really has everything. Starts with a hook, gets a little spacy and mellow, then launches into an amazing epic, ends with a freaky experimental jam. The songs don't necessarily hold up on their own IMO...but every time I sit down to listen to that album, it's just a great experience.

TioJorge · « **Reply #1116 on:** November 26, 2012, 12:29:33 PM »

Quote from: nightmare_cinema on November 26, 2012, 12:09:21 PM

Coma Divine was the first album I got by PT (yeah, bad choice), somehow 'Signify' whetted my appetite for more. Then a friend sent me shesmovedon and the rest is history...

Whaa!? Hardly a bad choice! It was my first PT album as well and I think it was a wonderful place to start. It showed me this was a band that was very talented, not only behind the mic in the studio, but in front of an audience as well. Not only that, but it's still my favorite live album if only for the quality of the production and the songs themselves. It's a fantastic live album. Granted, yes, it is an odd place to start, but I wouldn't say it's a bad one.

I randomly picked it up in my local F.Y.E. shop (not sure if they're even still around..) because I liked the album artwork and the band name jumped out at me...of all things. Judging a book by it's cover has done me well thus far.

nightmare_cinema · « **Reply #1117 on:** November 26, 2012, 12:30:26 PM »

Quote from: jammindude on November 26, 2012, 12:10:15 PM

The songs don't necessarily hold up on their own IMO...but every time I sit down to listen to that album, it's just a great experience.

You don't think? I reckon Anesthetize is one of the best songs they've ever written, and Sentimental ranks up there in my top PT songs overall too. I think FOABP is awesome and Sleep Together is great... but I could do without hearing My Ashes or Way Out of Here ever again tbh.

nightmare_cinema · « **Reply #1118 on:** November 26, 2012, 12:31:57 PM »

Quote from: TioJorge on November 26, 2012, 12:29:33 PM

Quote from: nightmare_cinema on November 26, 2012, 12:09:21 PM
Coma Divine was the first album I got by PT (yeah, bad choice), somehow 'Signify' whetted my appetite for more. Then a friend sent me shesmovedon and the rest is history...

Whaa!? Hardly a bad choice! It was my first PT album as well and I think it was a wonderful place to start. It showed me this was a band that was very talented, not only behind the mic in the studio, but in front of an audience as well. Not only that, but it's still my favorite live album if only for the quality of the production and the songs themselves. It's a fantastic live album. Granted, yes, it is an odd place to start, but I wouldn't say it's a bad one.

I randomly picked it up in my local F.Y.E. shop (not sure if they're even still around..) because I liked the album artwork and the band name jumped out at me...of all things. Judging a book by it's cover has done me well thus far.

Well, bad in the sense that it could have gone either way and based on that album I'd say I would have been more likely not to get into them than I would have been to branch out into other PT albums. It's a great album, but for a newbie not particularly grabbing I don't think. In Absentia would have been a surer bet!

wasteland · « **Reply #1119 on:** November 26, 2012, 01:01:23 PM »

I started with FOABP. Bought it almost by chance, and took some time to grow in me. Then, a year later or so, I delved deeper into the band earlier material, like The Sky Moves Sideways, which is still my favourite PT LP. I never really appreciated In Absentia, the 99-00 albums and The Incident (which I didn't like at all). So, I guess I cannot be defined a true Porcupine Tree fan, unfortunately. $:-\$

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Author Topic: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb (Read 226857 times)