Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb

[Sketchy]

Personally, I agree that OTSOL is really good. I do like it about the same amount as I like TSMS (because I really like both) but no, I think OTSOL is brilliant. It feels a lot shorter than it actually is.

[Xanthul]

I watched Anesthetize yesterday and I have to say it's a pretty cool guy. Video quality is stunning and I think all performances are pretty amazing. The only negative point (that also applies to Arriving Somewhere) is that I hate how they turn all guitar solos into improvised dissonant noises, I'd prefer if both Wilson and Wesley stayed closer to the originals.

[Zantera]

I really don't like what they did with Dark Matter live. Some of it is cool, but the part after the chorus where it's keyboard-heavy on the album are guitar-heavy on the live version, and it just doesn't sound as good.

[Ħ]

Beautiful insanity!

Now watch in wonder as people attempt to wrap their minds around that statement and understand how it is that you could possibly like such an odd, unrecognizable album better than anything other than a steaming pile of shit (that sings. whOOOOa). It's cute. It's like, "Aw! Try and give less of a shit."

I mean, OTSOL is garbage. But it's Steven Wilson's garbage, and that makes it special.

[TioJorge]

Beautiful insanity!

Now watch in wonder as people attempt to wrap their minds around that statement and understand how it is that you could possibly like such an odd, unrecognizable album better than anything other than a steaming pile of shit (that sings. whOOOOa). It's cute. It's like, "Aw! Try and give less of a shit."

I mean, OTSOL is garbage. But it's Steven Wilson's garbage, and that makes it special.

What's that make TI?

...Garbage's diarrhea?

[The King in Crimson]

Beautiful insanity!

Now watch in wonder as people attempt to wrap their minds around that statement and understand how it is that you could possibly like such an odd, unrecognizable album better than anything other than a steaming pile of shit (that sings. whOOOOa). It's cute. It's like, "Aw! Try and give less of a shit."

I mean, OTSOL is garbage. But it's Steven Wilson's garbage, and that makes it special.

Half of OTSOL is garbage, but at least it's interesting garbage. 

[Ultimetalhead]

Bosk, if you like the riffier style, you should try out Strip the Soul, Wedding Nails, The Creator Has a Mastertape, Open Car, and Shallow. You might enjoy them a bit more.

Perhaps, but unless they are instrumentals that do not transition into the spacey, atmospheric style, I will likely be turned off by the vocals and/or the atmospheric stuff.  But don't worry--I have plenty of music that I DO enjoy. 

Well, yeah, if you don't like the atmospheric stuff, you probably won't get very far. Wedding Nails is instrumental, though it does have a fairly extensive noodly section.

[Ħ]

I think PT has a core sound which is the melodramatic, moody, spacey sound that people either like or dislike. There's variety that's built around that, but PT almost always keeps that foundation.

[wasteland]

Do I risk getting hanged by people if I say that Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape is probably my favourite PT song? 

[Zantera]

Do I risk getting hanged by people if I say that Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape is probably my favourite PT song? 

Only if those people are under the impression that their own opinions are facts.

[Xanthul]

Do I risk getting hanged by people if I say that Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape is probably my favourite PT song? 

Only if those people are under the impression that their own opinions are facts.

Which, let's be honest, *rarely* happens on the Internet

[FlyingBIZKIT]

Why do people shit all over The Incident? After going through their albums again, it's probably my 3rd favorite, behind Deadwing and Lightbulb Sun.

It's so dark, and moody. I love it.. and it has some of their best songs on it. 

[wasteland]

Why do people shit all over The Incident? After going through their albums again, it's probably my 3rd favorite, behind Deadwing and Lightbulb Sun.

It's so dark, and moody. I love it.. and it has some of their best songs on it. 

I never really got it. It's probably me, though... I'm more a supporter of the old PT way...

[Zantera]

I don't really care much for The Incident either. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great album from start to listen, but few of the songs stand out as being better than just great.

[KevShmev]

Do I risk getting hanged by people if I say that Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape is probably my favourite PT song? 

Not at all.  It's a damn good song.

I don't really care much for The Incident either. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great album from start to listen, but few of the songs stand out as being better than just great.

The two things I bolded completely contradict each other.

[seasonsinthesky]

Do I risk getting hanged by people if I say that Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape is probably my favourite PT song? 

which version? that's a favourite of the early PT days for me too, along with "No Reason to Live, No Reason to Die," "Rainy Taxi," "And the Swallows Dance Above the Sun" and "Cloud Zero." pretty much all of the Staircase Infinities EP is brilliant!

[Ħ]

I don't really care much for The Incident either. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great album from start to listen, but few of the songs stand out as being better than just great.

The two things I bolded completely contradict each other.

How? It's completely possible to believe something is great without really caring for it.

[Zantera]

I don't really care much for The Incident either. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great album from start to listen, but few of the songs stand out as being better than just great.

The two things I bolded completely contradict each other.

How? It's completely possible to believe something is great without really caring for it.

Yeah this pretty much. Back when The Incident came out I didn't really know much music, I had a core of ~10 bands perhaps that I listened to, and it was quite easy to listen to The Incident a lot. But now when that core of bands has expanded to over 100, I just don't care enough for an album I would rank 3.5 out of 5 (or something) when I can listen to something I enjoy more.

So in conclusion, I don't think it's a bad album, and I wouldn't turn it off if someone played it for me, but on the other hand it's certainly not an album I would just put on, not even in PT's discography.

[Super Dude]

I don't really care much for The Incident either. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great album from start to listen, but few of the songs stand out as being better than just great.

The two things I bolded completely contradict each other.

How? It's completely possible to believe something is great without really caring for it.

Yeah this pretty much. Back when The Incident came out I didn't really know much music, I had a core of ~10 bands perhaps that I listened to, and it was quite easy to listen to The Incident a lot. But now when that core of bands has expanded to over 100, I just don't care enough for an album I would rank 3.5 out of 5 (or something) when I can listen to something I enjoy more.

So in conclusion, I don't think it's a bad album, and I wouldn't turn it off if someone played it for me, but on the other hand it's certainly not an album I would just put on, not even in PT's discography.

Maybe not, although I play it often enough. Holds sentimental value for me, I guess.

Anyway, I originally came here to post that Stupid Dream is awesome, but you all probably knew that. I burned it to CD this morning after years of tossing it around on my iPod, so now I can listen to it in the car.

[Ħ]

You listen to CD and mp3s? ROFL

[Zantera]

You listen to CD and mp3s? ROFL

What's "rofl" about that? Most people listen to mp3, and CD is still the most available physical format. Or are you one of those "anything that isn't flac or vinyl sucks"-kind of people?

[Ħ]

CDs are the destruction of art, dude. Don't you own the Steven Wilson manual?

[Zantera]

Steven Wilson has actually said himself that he owns loads of CD's. 

[Buddyhunter1]

LISTENING TO MP3S IS LIKE LOOKING AT A PHOTOGRAPH OF A PAINTING HURR DURR

[Ħ]

Not sure if something is art? Follow this easy-to-use logic tree, courtesy of Steven Wilson!

1. Is it an mp3?
yes -> then it's not art
no -> proceed to step 2

2. Is it a CD?
yes -> proceed to step 3
no -> proceed to step 4

3. Is it enclosed in a digibook?
yes -> then it's not art
no -> proceed to step 4

4. Has it gone platinum?
yes -> proceed to step 5
no -> proceed to step 6

5. Is it by Pink Floyd??
yes -> Then it's art!
no -> Sorry, not art.

6. Is it one of the following genres: hip hop, R&B, modern pop, techno, prog (excluding Porcupine Tree and Pink Floyd)?
yes -> Sorry, not art.
no -> Then it's art!

[TL]

Just found out that Gavin Harrison is doing a drum clinic here in Halifax in a couple weeks! For once, Halifax actually gets something interesting music related.

[Super Dude]

Stop Swimming

[Sigz]

6. Is it one of the following genres: hip hop, R&B, modern pop, techno, prog (excluding Porcupine Tree and Pink Floyd)?
yes -> Sorry, not art.
no -> Then it's art!

How do you figure? He's routinely cited earlier prog bands as influences (and fucking demolished Akerfeldt in that prog quiz on youtube), as well as liking various hip hop and such (i.e. Fear of a Black Planet) - I mean, Dalek even did a remix of Get All You Deserve for the NSRGNTS RMXS disc.

[Ħ]

6. Is it one of the following genres: hip hop, R&B, modern pop, techno, prog (excluding Porcupine Tree and Pink Floyd)?
yes -> Sorry, not art.
no -> Then it's art!

How do you figure?

By not thinking things through when it doesn't matter.

[TL]

Just got back from the clinic Gavin held here in Halifax. Needless to say, it was amazing! Informative and extremely entertaining. The guy is ridiculously charming in person.

[Zantera]

https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/272/4174/ <--preorder for the new live-album.

So the speculation was at least true to a certain point, 3 of the songs on it will be from the Royal Albert Hall concert. Honestly, I'm not sure what to think. I'd love one of the special gigs as a live album, but I don't like the idea of having a live album with songs mixed from different concerts. It gives it a less cohesive feel since it was recorded over several nights. (I know in some cases they do like 2 nights in a row and pick the best versions, but this isn't the same, this wasn't even on the same tour)

But I'll be buying it never the less.

[Nick]

The fuck. Let me first say that Arriving Somewhere is my favorite Porcupine Tree song, but there is no reason for that to get on this release when an AMAZING version is already released. There was so many cool old songs brought out that people want to hear what they sound like today and they end it with AS... just no sense in my mind.

[Ħ]

Yeah that's pretty weird. But most PT songs have gotten pretty fair representation so far, so I'm glad the entire Incident album (minus a few of disc 2, I guess) is there.

[Nick]

Also, it's really disappointing that you can only get the DVD if you purchase the CDs, and more importantly if you buy the version available through K-Scope.

[The Letter M]

Also, it's really disappointing that you can only get the DVD if you purchase the CDs, and more importantly if you buy the version available through K-Scope.

Either way, I'm still gonna pre-order it. Looks like BurningShed is going to get $70.40 from me after I get paid on October 3rd - between this set and the pre-orders for the Genesis Revisited sets by Steve Hackett, they're getting a sizable amount of my paycheck...maybe.  If anything, I am at least getting this set. It looks pretty good and I am a sucker for Special/Limited Editions, especially of PT/SW-related stuff!

-Marc.