Author Topic: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb (Read 227008 times)

FlyingBIZKIT · « **Reply #455 on:** May 12, 2012, 06:59:32 PM »

How 'bout Stupid Dream?

I think my favorite song on that album is Stranger By The Minute. Beautiful.

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #456 on:** May 12, 2012, 07:04:59 PM »

I'll probably go with Don't Hate me as my favorite.

But stranger by the minute is definitely very beautiful and uplifting.

FlyingBIZKIT · « **Reply #457 on:** May 12, 2012, 07:06:29 PM »

I have yet to listen to a bad PT song!

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #458 on:** May 12, 2012, 07:07:36 PM »

^^^

So true, their track record is incredible.

FlyingBIZKIT · « **Reply #459 on:** May 12, 2012, 07:08:58 PM »

I think if I had to pick my favorite PT song, it would be Russia On Ice, though there are so many that could compete.

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #460 on:** May 12, 2012, 07:10:48 PM »

Russia on Ice was captivating live.

If I had to go with an overall favorite, it would maybe be Trains or Anesthetize, but its still such a hard decision.

FlyingBIZKIT · « **Reply #461 on:** May 12, 2012, 07:12:31 PM »

Lucky!

Yeah, those two are some of their best. I also REALLY love Sleep Together.

jammindude · « **Reply #462 on:** May 12, 2012, 08:33:24 PM »

Favorite from Stupid Dream for me would be Slave Called Shiver...just a *classic* song.

Never really cared for Russia On Ice much. I really love the second half...that totally makes it worth it...but the first half is just kindof "plodding" to me. Which is just the total reverse of what I think of Strip the Soul....love the first half of that one, but the second half just seems to drag and drone and plod and not do anything for the song at all. Maybe I should stick the first half of Strip the Soul on the second half of Russian on Ice.

But my favorite Lightbulb Sun song is easily Hatesong. Fell in love with it when I heard the live version on Arriving Somewhere, and it's been the crown jewel of that album for me ever since. Honorable mention (and #2 spot) goes to Last Chance...

Heretic · « **Reply #463 on:** May 12, 2012, 09:28:52 PM »

I love Stranger By the Minute as well. Not a huge fan of Russia on Ice, though; it's good, but it's nowhere near the best song on LBS.

1neeto · « **Reply #464 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:19:33 PM »

Ok so far I have IA, Deadwing, and TI. I like them all, but which one should be next? Warzawa? The itunes PT selection is quite limited.

jammindude · « **Reply #465 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:21:17 PM »

Personally, I would say Stupid Dream. But most people will probably say Fear of a Blank Planet.

theseoafs · « **Reply #466 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:21:55 PM »

I would've suggested Fear of a Blank Planet but apparently it's not on iTunes anymore? I could've sworn it was at one point.

orcus116 · « **Reply #467 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:22:52 PM »

Quote from: FlyingBIZKIT on May 12, 2012, 06:59:32 PM

How 'bout Stupid Dream?

I think my favorite song on that album is Stranger By The Minute. Beautiful.

Finally, someone else that likes that song. Usually goes quick on the survivors but it's quite great.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #468 on:** May 12, 2012, 11:15:36 PM »

Stupid Dream is my second favourite PT album. So amazing. My favourite track? I couldn't choose. Either Don't Hate Me or A Smart Kid. But Baby Dream in Cellophane, Slave Called Shiver, and This Is No Rehearsal are amazing too.

Jirpo · « **Reply #469 on:** May 12, 2012, 11:37:28 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on May 12, 2012, 10:22:52 PM

Quote from: FlyingBIZKIT on May 12, 2012, 06:59:32 PM
How 'bout Stupid Dream?

I think my favorite song on that album is Stranger By The Minute. Beautiful.

Finally, someone else that likes that song. Usually goes quick on the survivors but it's quite great.

Yep, the last four are my fave on that album.

KevShmev · « **Reply #470 on:** May 12, 2012, 11:42:58 PM »

I love Stranger by the Minute. Then again, I pretty much love everything on Stupid Dream.

ACID_FOX · « **Reply #471 on:** May 12, 2012, 11:45:09 PM »

WHEN IM DROWING

YOU DRAG ME UP TO YOU

? · « **Reply #472 on:** May 13, 2012, 01:42:10 AM »

Quote from: Mladen on May 12, 2012, 03:47:51 AM

Signify could have been great, but Idiot prayer, Intermediate Jesus and Light mass prayers are such a snooze-fest. I actually challenged myself to get to Dark matter without skipping these songs, it was one of the hardest things I've ever done.

Light Mass Prayers, along with Pagan, is just a filler track for me and Intermediate Jesus isn't that interesting but Idiot Prayer is great, like pretty much the rest of Signify - I'm not a long-time fan but thought I'd share my opinion.

Since my last post I've listened to The Incident and I have to agree with many of you - it's a disappointment, easily the weakest PT album I've heard so far (I haven't heard OTSOL, TSMS and Stupid Dream but I'll try to get the latter 2 soon, not sure about the debut)

I'd rank the PT albums I've heard so far like this:

Fear
Absentia
Downstair (I don't see this one getting much love

)
Signify
Deadwing
Lightbulb Sun
Incident

Zantera · « **Reply #473 on:** May 13, 2012, 01:49:04 AM »

Up the Downstair is amazing. To be honest I'm surprised it doesn't get more appreciation as well, it has a really good flow, and some really great songs like Always Never, Fadeaway, Small Fish, Burning Sky, Synesthesia and the title-track.

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #474 on:** May 13, 2012, 03:41:41 AM »

Quote from: Zantera on May 13, 2012, 01:49:04 AM

Up the Downstair is amazing. To be honest I'm surprised it doesn't get more appreciation as well, it has a really good flow, and some really great songs like Always Never, Fadeaway, Small Fish, Burning Sky, Synesthesia and the title-track.

I truly love that album. It really puts my mind at ease.

wolfking · « **Reply #475 on:** May 13, 2012, 04:45:27 AM »

Picked up the Anesthetize DVD yesterday for $8, brand spanking new.....

FlyingBIZKIT · « **Reply #476 on:** May 13, 2012, 07:01:06 AM »

Nice deal. Great concert

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #477 on:** May 13, 2012, 10:04:08 AM »

Quote from: Zantera on May 13, 2012, 01:49:04 AM

Up the Downstair is amazing. To be honest I'm surprised it doesn't get more appreciation as well, it has a really good flow, and some really great songs like Always Never, Fadeaway, Small Fish, Burning Sky, Synesthesia and the title-track.

I usually see it get ranked higher in album rankings, so iunno about it being underappreciated. That being said, probably my 3rd favourite PT album. It's really amazing. Burning Sky and Fadeaway are two of their best songs.

jammindude · « **Reply #478 on:** May 13, 2012, 11:22:11 AM »

RE: Up the Downstair...

I have to say that (for me) it got much better with the re-recorded drums on the re-release. I always thought the songs were cool, but hated the drum machine and I would usually listen to the versions on Coma Divine. But the re-release with Gavin was such a huge improvement it's not even funny.

orcus116 · « **Reply #479 on:** May 13, 2012, 11:24:38 AM »

Kev's gonna come in and disagree with that very soon.

Quote from: Zantera on May 13, 2012, 01:49:04 AM

Up the Downstair is amazing. To be honest I'm surprised it doesn't get more appreciation as well, it has a really good flow, and some really great songs like Always Never, Fadeaway, Small Fish, Burning Sky, Synesthesia and the title-track.

My favorite Porcupine Tree album. Even Staircase Infinities is amazing.

Nick · « **Reply #480 on:** May 13, 2012, 11:42:11 AM »

I love Up the Downstair, probably their best album before Stupid Dream, either that or Signify.

skydivingninja · « **Reply #481 on:** May 13, 2012, 11:56:31 AM »

Up the Downstair is the best pre-Signify album and is one of the high points of their discography.

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #482 on:** May 13, 2012, 12:13:43 PM »

Quote from: Zantera on May 13, 2012, 01:49:04 AM

Up the Downstair is amazing. To be honest I'm surprised it doesn't get more appreciation as well, it has a really good flow, and some really great songs like Always Never, Fadeaway, Small Fish, Burning Sky, Synesthesia and the title-track.

i find the flow distracting more than you do, i think. tracks like "Siren" and "Small Fish" get in the way of a streamlined, cohesive single album, imo. however, if it was a double album as intended, these tracks and segues would have paced it out better, so i suppose i'm ultimately on the fence about them. i would rather UTD have been another double album and include the Voyage 34 and the Staircase Infinities tracks as originally intended.

probably in this order!
1-01. Synesthesia (full length)
1-02. Monuments Burn into Moments
1-03. Voyage 34 phase I
1-04. The Joke's on You
1-05. Navigator
1-06. Always Never
1-07. Up the Downstair
1-08. Rainy Taxi
1-09. Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape
--
2-01. What You are Listening to...
2-02. Men of Wood
2-03. Phantoms
2-04. Cloud Zero
2-05. Not Beautiful Anymore
2-06. Siren
2-07. Small Fish
2-08. Burning Sky
2-09. Fadeaway
2-10. Voyage 24 phase II

bloated, ain't it?

jammindude · « **Reply #483 on:** May 13, 2012, 02:07:30 PM »

^^^^^^^^^

Hmmm...that actually sounds like a really interesting mix. I think I might try that one.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #484 on:** May 13, 2012, 02:10:44 PM »

So you fixed the bad flow of Siren and Small Fish by putting them in the exact same spots?

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #485 on:** May 13, 2012, 02:18:09 PM »

UTD is fine the way it is.

It's a perfectly flowing album that doesn't overstay its welcome. Adding all that AND making it a double album would destroy it, but part of that reaction might come from my dislike of Voyage 34.

LieLowTheWantedMan · « **Reply #486 on:** May 13, 2012, 02:26:13 PM »

Yeah what he said. The flow is impeccable and it's a perfect album. I do love Voyage 34 though.

jammindude · « **Reply #487 on:** May 13, 2012, 03:08:26 PM »

Voyage 34 is another AMAZING and under-rated PT piece. (I hesitate to call it an album...more like a grossly bloated "single")

Phase 1&2 feel like a complete piece to me...3&4 I could do without, but they make for interesting listens from time to time.

KevShmev · « **Reply #488 on:** May 13, 2012, 10:23:29 PM »

Quote from: jammindude on May 13, 2012, 11:22:11 AM

RE: Up the Downstair...

I have to say that (for me) it got much better with the re-recorded drums on the re-release. I always thought the songs were cool, but hated the drum machine and I would usually listen to the versions on Coma Divine. But the re-release with Gavin was such a huge improvement it's not even funny.

Gotta do what orcus said I would do

and completely disagree.

Some really cool drum fills that were on the original were removed and played differently on the remaster, the vibe of many of the songs isn't as good, and Wilson completely sucked the life out of Burning Sky by re-recording the main guitar lead (which was awesome on the original, but sounds dull and lifeless on the remaster).

Generally speaking, real drums are almost always better than fake drums, yes, but in the case of those very early PT albums, the drum machine added a certain charm to them, and putting newly recorded drums on an album that old (it was 12 years old at the time of the remaster) is like pairing up two things that don't go together because they come from different times or eras. It just doesn't sound right.

I almost always love what SW does, but I think that was the one huge mistake he has made. A studio album is more than a collection of songs, but a snapshot in time, and replacing something that many years later is tainting that snapshot, IMO. Harrison's drumming was not a part of the band's sound back then.

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #489 on:** May 13, 2012, 10:40:13 PM »

I don't think I've ever heard the 'original' UtD before.

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