Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb

[Buddyhunter1]

Oooh, maybe they'll finally release an EP with all of the Deadwing B-Sides!

[hefdaddy42]

New flashy website.

Updated YouTube page.

Something will happen shortly.



Least expecting it, my ass.

2003 live release from the In Absentia tour.

They aren't doing all of this just to release a 2003 show.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Honestly I would be so happy if something is finally brewing in the PT camp. 

[Samsara]

Honestly I would be so happy if something is finally brewing in the PT camp. 

Exactly. The frustrating thing for me, and some others, is that I'm a fan of Porcupine Tree, but not necessarily SW as a solo artist. Don't get me wrong, I ABSOLUTELY appreciate SW's talents and understand just how cool some of the prog stuff he does is. It's just not typically in territory that I can get into. I liked The Raven Who Refused to Sing, but nowhere near as much as the Stupid Dream through Fear of a Blank Planet. I've checked out everything he has done since, and he's lost me more and more.

SW himself has said so many times that PT, particularly the IA-FoaBP records, were compromises between he and the band. I'd argue that that compromise is what made PT so special. So yes, anything that perhaps gets PT together and builds off of FoaBP, I'd be down for. I think The Incident saw SW taking more ownership of the direction, and consequently, wasn't as good to me. It wasn't bad, but certainly not something I was very high on.

Hopefully, with some years in the rear view, SW and the PT guys can reunite at some point, embrace that compromise, and continue. I think SW's direction as a solo artist is now sufficiently different, and both PT and SW solo could co-exist nicely.

[King Postwhore]

New flashy website.

Updated YouTube page.

Something will happen shortly.



Least expecting it, my ass.

2003 live release from the In Absentia tour.

They aren't doing all of this just to release a 2003 show.

I would love to see a reunion but I think it's just to release more music.  Either way, I'm happy.

[Revenge319]

Honestly, I'm hoping this means there will be more copies of The Incident printed on CD, so I can get that album at long last. (That said, I would also be excited at the prospect of a new album if it were to get announced.)

[Kram]

I believe SW said in a recent interview that he's been working on 2 projects during the covid shutdowns - and one of them was a more guitar driven project....so its a possibility.

[Revenge319]

I don't know when it first popped up, but there's going to be a reissue of The Incident releasing on September 24th, 2021. It's available for pre-order on Amazon and other sites.

https://www.amazon.com/Incident-Porcupine-Tree/dp/B099BZQMGH

[KevShmev]

I don't see it listed there, but I swear I remember reading about this somewhere recently and it saying that the reissue will be with all 18 songs on one CD this time instead of the four songs not part of the song cycle on a second disc like originally released.

[Revenge319]

I don't see it listed there, but I swear I remember reading about this somewhere recently and it saying that the reissue will be with all 18 songs on one CD this time instead of the four songs not part of the song cycle on a second disc like originally released.

That makes sense; the Audio CD format listing on Amazon only shows one CD next to the album art.

[goo-goo]

It was announced a while back. Burning Shed also has it for pre-order

https://burningshed.com/porcupine-tree_the-incident_transmission-label-cd

[ReaperKK]

Oh nice, I'll have to pre-order the vinyl.

[KevShmev]

I don't see it listed there, but I swear I remember reading about this somewhere recently and it saying that the reissue will be with all 18 songs on one CD this time instead of the four songs not part of the song cycle on a second disc like originally released.

That makes sense; the Audio CD format listing on Amazon only shows one CD next to the album art.

 

I know some thought this album was a big drop-off, and I myself won't argue that it is as great overall as many of their other albums, but I still love The Incident, and will defend it till my last breath. 

[Revenge319]

The Incident is my second-favorite Porcupine Tree album, only beaten by Deadwing. Amazing album from start to finish.

[KevShmev]

The Incident is my second-favorite Porcupine Tree album, only beaten by Deadwing. Amazing album from start to finish.

There ya go.  I am actually not overly wild about Remember Me Lover or the noisy ambient tracks (Occam's Razor, Degree Zero of Liberty), but everything else is money.  I Drive the Hearse and Bonnie the Cat remain two of my favorite PT songs ever. 

[goo-goo]

I prefer the live version. I saw them twice on that tour and the song just hit harder live than the studio.

[KevShmev]

I prefer the live version. I saw them twice on that tour and the song just hit harder live than the studio.

Which song?

[goo-goo]

I prefer the live version. I saw them twice on that tour and the song just hit harder live than the studio.

Which song?

The Incident (the complete song). The vibe and flow came out better. Octane Twisted (the album) remains on decent rotation. As far as the individual songs go, I love Circle of Manias and Drive the Hearse.

[Kram]

I'll throw my hat in as someone who also thinks The Incident is quite good and definitely underrated.  It doesn't help, that SW himself, appears to be underwhelmed by it and uses it as, well not the reason he disbanded the band, but as almost proof that the band had gown "stale", which was what he needed to leave and go his own direction.  At least that's how I see it.

[KevShmev]

I prefer the live version. I saw them twice on that tour and the song just hit harder live than the studio.

Which song?

The Incident (the complete song). The vibe and flow came out better. Octane Twisted (the album) remains on decent rotation. As far as the individual songs go, I love Circle of Manias and Drive the Hearse.

They didn't play the whole suite the one I time saw them in 2010 (they played the first five songs to start off the show and then I Drive the Hearse later in the show), but I would imagine it would have slayed live to see it from start to finish.

I'll throw my hat in as someone who also thinks The Incident is quite good and definitely underrated.  It doesn't help, that SW himself, appears to be underwhelmed by it and uses it as, well not the reason he disbanded the band, but as almost proof that the band had gown "stale", which was what he needed to leave and go his own direction.  At least that's how I see it.

I cannot remember his exact comments, but it seems like he was getting bored with the harder rock edge and felt like he did The Incident to keep that sound going rather than still doing what he was all-in on, if that makes sense.  The results were still damn good, but I get it if he wasn't feeling it anymore.

[Zantera]

I remember SW saying something like "every other album turned out great and every other turned out disappointing" so that would not only mean he was disappointed with The Incident but also that he wasn't fully happy with Deadwing or Lightbulb Sun either which I find more surprising.

[KevShmev]

I remember him saying that.  I think he didn't like Shallow that much in hindsight, and he's out there enough to where he probably thinks that is a stain on the whole record.  Wilson is definitely a guy who can be very self-critical rather than being starry-eyed by his own work and thinking it was all pure magic.

[Buddyhunter1]

Shallow is good. There's several songs from Deadwing I prefer it to. Yeah it's a big dumb rock song but it's a GOOD big dumb rock song!

[Metro]

"Porcupine Tree is very special thing to me. I'm sure we're gonna make another record."

https://youtu.be/vg-mPnyL4-I?t=3183

Obviously nothing is confirmed or set in stone, but it's good to know that this seems more likely than ever now.

[jammindude]

"Porcupine Tree is very special thing to me. I'm sure we're gonna make another record."

https://youtu.be/vg-mPnyL4-I?t=3183

Obviously nothing is confirmed or set in stone, but it's good to know that this seems more likely than ever now.

It’s very telling that he mentions what Gavin is doing at the moment, then he talks about how Richard is doing his solo stuff, and then….. ya.

I know we kind of received confirmation that Colin was out because of that “Porcupine Three” legal rearrangement that we all just saw, but it’s still kind of sad to hear the confirmation that Stephen won’t even mention his name at this point.

[Ben_Jamin]

I remember him saying that.  I think he didn't like Shallow that much in hindsight, and he's out there enough to where he probably thinks that is a stain on the whole record.  Wilson is definitely a guy who can be very self-critical rather than being starry-eyed by his own work and thinking it was all pure magic.

I actually agree with Wilson.

Shallow does bring that album down. For me, it's the vocals in the verses. I also do not enjoy Halo, but it does fit in the overall sound of the album, more so than Shallow. So Called Friend actually would work well too right after/before Halo.

[Metro]

"Porcupine Tree is very special thing to me. I'm sure we're gonna make another record."

https://youtu.be/vg-mPnyL4-I?t=3183

Obviously nothing is confirmed or set in stone, but it's good to know that this seems more likely than ever now.

It’s very telling that he mentions what Gavin is doing at the moment, then he talks about how Richard is doing his solo stuff, and then….. ya.

I know we kind of received confirmation that Colin was out because of that “Porcupine Three” legal rearrangement that we all just saw, but it’s still kind of sad to hear the confirmation that Stephen won’t even mention his name at this point.

I noticed that. I always thought it was odd that Colin was the one member that Steven never did anything with post-PT. 

[ReaperKK]

Do they have a history of not getting along? Colin's playing has always fit Porcupine Tree perfectly and he'll be missed if he isn't there for the new record, whenever it does come out.

[Setlist Scotty]

"Porcupine Tree is very special thing to me. I'm sure we're gonna make another record."

https://youtu.be/vg-mPnyL4-I?t=3183

Obviously nothing is confirmed or set in stone, but it's good to know that this seems more likely than ever now.

It’s very telling that he mentions what Gavin is doing at the moment, then he talks about how Richard is doing his solo stuff, and then….. ya.

I know we kind of received confirmation that Colin was out because of that “Porcupine Three” legal rearrangement that we all just saw, but it’s still kind of sad to hear the confirmation that Stephen won’t even mention his name at this point.

I haven't listened to the interview yet, but what did I miss about Colin and legal rearrangement? What happened that he's at odds with SW?

[jammindude]

"Porcupine Tree is very special thing to me. I'm sure we're gonna make another record."

https://youtu.be/vg-mPnyL4-I?t=3183

Obviously nothing is confirmed or set in stone, but it's good to know that this seems more likely than ever now.

It’s very telling that he mentions what Gavin is doing at the moment, then he talks about how Richard is doing his solo stuff, and then….. ya.

I know we kind of received confirmation that Colin was out because of that “Porcupine Three” legal rearrangement that we all just saw, but it’s still kind of sad to hear the confirmation that Stephen won’t even mention his name at this point.

I haven't listened to the interview yet, but what did I miss about Colin and legal rearrangement? What happened that he's at odds with SW?

Posted here not too long ago, there’s a new legal entity that’s a part of public record. The corporation is called Porcupine Three and the only parties are Stephen, Gavin, and Richard.

EDIT TO ADD - Beyond that, I don’t know that there’s been any public comment on exactly what happened. But it’s basically the same situation that we have with Haken and their keyboardist. It’s public record that he’s legally out of the band, but there’s been no confirmation or announcement or statement of any kind from any of the parties involved.

[Setlist Scotty]

"Porcupine Tree is very special thing to me. I'm sure we're gonna make another record."

https://youtu.be/vg-mPnyL4-I?t=3183

Obviously nothing is confirmed or set in stone, but it's good to know that this seems more likely than ever now.

It’s very telling that he mentions what Gavin is doing at the moment, then he talks about how Richard is doing his solo stuff, and then….. ya.

I know we kind of received confirmation that Colin was out because of that “Porcupine Three” legal rearrangement that we all just saw, but it’s still kind of sad to hear the confirmation that Stephen won’t even mention his name at this point.

I haven't listened to the interview yet, but what did I miss about Colin and legal rearrangement? What happened that he's at odds with SW?

Posted here not too long ago, there’s a new legal entity that’s a part of public record. The corporation is called Porcupine Three and the only parties are Stephen, Gavin, and Richard.

EDIT TO ADD - Beyond that, I don’t know that there’s been any public comment on exactly what happened. But it’s basically the same situation that we have with Haken and their keyboardist. It’s public record that he’s legally out of the band, but there’s been no confirmation or announcement or statement of any kind from any of the parties involved.

Ah OK. BTW, still haven't gotten into Haken yet, but I will, but I'm surprised to read that about Diego.

[KevShmev]

Edwin's bass playing will definitely be missed if he is not part of the band anymore, but it is still great to hear that something is likely.  I am someone who was fine with the band ending, and has loved his solo career, but if Wilson wants to put (most of) the band back together again, I am all for it. 

[King Puppies and the Acid Guppies]

Well, if Colin is out, time to call Geddy about recording an album.

[Kwyjibo]

Porcupine Tree has some great basslines. I always wondered if Steven, as the sole writer for most songs, came up with them, or if Colin added his own ideas. If the latter is the case, Colin will be sorely missed.

[Mladen]

I feel like it was yesterday that Wilson claimed there is no chance Porcupine Tree will get back together. He was so adamant about it. I wonder what has changed.