Author Topic: Porcupine Tree v. Glarung is a Lightbulb (Read 225838 times)

MrBoom_shack-a-lack · « **Reply #1715 on:** April 13, 2016, 04:08:40 PM »

Oh i'm with you, my body is ready!

Enigmachine · « **Reply #1716 on:** April 13, 2016, 04:25:43 PM »

Quote from: KevShmev on April 13, 2016, 04:04:29 PM

Hearing the rock, in the form of hard riffs, creep back into SW's music on the last album and EP, I think it's time to get the boys back together and give us some new PT. Who's with me?

Am I the only one here who doesn't care about a PT reunion? SW (omg same initials as me) pretty much writes all the music anyway. Not going to change much if he releases the music under his own name or PT's. I am aware that the other members of PT do contribute more than the corresponding members in SW's solo material, but I doubt the difference is huge.

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #1717 on:** April 13, 2016, 04:28:48 PM »

Have you.... listened to PT? There's a pretty clear difference.

Not that I'm necessarily advocating for PT to come back, but if they did, they definitely wouldn't sound like SW's current solo stuff.

Enigmachine · « **Reply #1718 on:** April 13, 2016, 04:38:47 PM »

Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on April 13, 2016, 04:28:48 PM

Have you.... listened to PT? There's a pretty clear difference.

Not that I'm necessarily advocating for PT to come back, but if they did, they definitely wouldn't sound like SW's current solo stuff.

Yeah, I know there's a difference, but even within PT's discography they change a ton so that makes it less of an issue. While SW's early solo stuff (Insurgents and GfD) aren't really like PT, Hand Cannot Erase does have elements of PT's late sound. I don't think it would be unreasonable to assume that if PT made a new album soon, it wouldn't be stylistically that far from HCE as that's just where his head is at, just like how Up the Downstair came from a different mindset than Fear of a Blank Planet (yet are under the same band name, even though FoaBP is closer to SW's solo material than early PT).

KevShmev · « **Reply #1719 on:** April 13, 2016, 05:16:14 PM »

It's true that either project, SW solo or PT, will largely be dictated by SW and whatever he comes up with, but there are elements, quirks, etc. that are very much PT that we don't really hear in his solo work, and vice versa.

Plus, I have been cranking some IA/Deadwing/Fear this week, which got me itching for some new PT.

bout to crash · « **Reply #1720 on:** April 13, 2016, 10:49:42 PM »

I don't really care if there's new PT or not at this point, but somebody who claims to be a reliable source told me they will be working on something soon which is why SW apparently said he wouldn't be working on a new solo album until next year. *shrug*
I'm not sure when he said that, but if it's true there are lots of other things he could be working on to distract from a solo album.

Sacul · « **Reply #1721 on:** April 13, 2016, 10:57:53 PM »

Steven has already started working on new stuff and has like 3 songs written so far, according to recent interviews. He also plans to release the record next year on his 50th birthday and make something special for the occasion. He also seemed to confirm new album will be more contemporary and electronic, and will use Ninet more than HCE

Zantera · « **Reply #1722 on:** April 14, 2016, 12:46:58 AM »

Aww, posting in the PT thread made me think something was happening and it was just another solo album :<

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #1723 on:** April 14, 2016, 01:37:04 AM »

I want PT back.

I know it's all SW mainly, but there's some special chemistry (for lack of a better word) in PT that's missing in his solo work. While I enjoy his solo work, I would rank most of the PT discography above it.

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #1724 on:** April 14, 2016, 04:23:53 AM »

All I care about is PT and I miss them dearly.

ReaperKK · « **Reply #1725 on:** April 14, 2016, 06:03:17 AM »

I'm with you Phoenix. Solo Wilson is good but PT was great.

Logain Ablar · « **Reply #1726 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:53:29 AM »

I'm a total newb to PT, but I like what I've heard so far.

I've been checking out some of their songs on YouTube, but last week I finally took the plunge and bought Deadwing. Arriving Somewhere But Not Here - wow, what a great song! Definitely the standout on the album for me, with Lazarus coming in second.

Any suggestions as to which album to pick up next?

Kwyjibo · « **Reply #1727 on:** April 14, 2016, 07:59:41 AM »

In before someone suggests In Absentia

So my suggestion would be: In Absentia, probably their best or at least their most popular.

I really like Stupid Dream, that's the record that got me hooked.

Zantera · « **Reply #1728 on:** April 14, 2016, 08:02:10 AM »

Fear of a Blank Planet, Signify and Stupid Dream would be my top3 PT albums, but I think your safest bet would be In Absentia or Lightbulb Sun.

Logain Ablar · « **Reply #1729 on:** April 14, 2016, 08:04:35 AM »

Cool - thanks guys!

Will check out In Absentia..

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #1730 on:** April 14, 2016, 10:08:35 AM »

Yep, since you dig DW, you'll likely quite enjoy IA, FOABP, The Incident, and all their related b-sides/EPs. You may as well go in order.

After that I'd progress to Stupid Dream, Lightbulb Sun and Recordings, probably in that order.

Aaaand then do Signify, proceeding backwards after that (TSMS, UTD, V34 then OTSOL & YHD last).

This is sorta the "metal centric" method of learning PT.

Nel · « **Reply #1731 on:** April 14, 2016, 10:35:47 AM »

Yeah, I'd say none of his solo stuff has done anything for me at all (barring maybe Luminol), so I'd love to have PT back. But I do get that he seems to really love this phase of his career and a lot of people love the solo albums, so I'm not holding my breath. They just don't strike my nerve the way I wish they would.

gazinwales · « **Reply #1732 on:** April 14, 2016, 01:57:47 PM »

I'm the same tried nearly all of his solo stuff and does nothing for me, while PT nearly always hit the spot for me.

KevShmev · « **Reply #1733 on:** April 14, 2016, 06:41:58 PM »

Quote from: Logain Ablar on April 14, 2016, 07:53:29 AM

I'm a total newb to PT, but I like what I've heard so far.

I've been checking out some of their songs on YouTube, but last week I finally took the plunge and bought Deadwing. Arriving Somewhere But Not Here - wow, what a great song! Definitely the standout on the album for me, with Lazarus coming in second.

Any suggestions as to which album to pick up next?

Yep, Deadwing is magnificent; that and Lightbulb Sun are 1a and 1b for me. Lazarus is one of my favorite songs ever for personal reasons, and Arriving Somewhere But Not Here might be the best song SW has ever written.

In Absentia is a great place to go next. You pretty much can't go wrong with anything by PT (although the first album is very weird, which is part of its charm, but I'd save that one for last, since you've already started).

JayOctavarium · « **Reply #1734 on:** April 14, 2016, 11:56:19 PM »

I love Solo Wilson and PT... and would love more PT... but would also love more Solo Wilson.

:shrugs:

I like the later PT for the metal elements. I wouldn't mind another PT album and tour, and then Steven going back to his solo stuff.

KevShmev · « **Reply #1735 on:** April 16, 2016, 07:33:46 AM »

I'll take more SW no matter how I get it. Damn, that makes me sound like a whore for him, doesn't it?

I think The Raven is one of his best three albums ever, along with Deadwing and Lightbulb Sun, and I'd put Grace for Drowning in possibly the top 5, with Hand Cannot Erase (insert periods

) not far behind.

It's extremely difficult to rank the best PT albums after DW and LS. Stupid Dream, In Absentia, Fear of a Black Planet, Signify and The Sky Moves Sideways are all so freaking awesome and pretty consistent in quality. I still love The Incident more than most, but even I will agree now that it is probably one of the least best PT records, which speaks volumes to how good their catalogue is, when an album that good is one of the two or three least best.

TioJorge · « **Reply #1736 on:** April 16, 2016, 01:14:45 PM »

Let's just change the thread title to "Porcupine Tree vs. Steven Wilson".

orcus116 · « **Reply #1737 on:** April 16, 2016, 02:32:02 PM »

Quote from: Zantera on April 14, 2016, 12:46:58 AM

Aww, posting in the PT thread made me think something was happening and it was just another solo album :<

Same although if the gang did get back together I think we're at the point in SW's career where there wouldn't be much of a sound difference between his solo stuff and any new PT. I could be dead wrong but that's just my gut.

Zantera · « **Reply #1738 on:** April 16, 2016, 05:52:00 PM »

I don't know, I don't think any of his solo stuff has that PT feeling. It feels different. Some of it is different in a good way, some of it is different in a bad way, but the "magic" that PT had is something he could never do on his own.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1739 on:** April 16, 2016, 07:29:08 PM »

I want both worlds. It not like Steven takes any time off anyway.

Scar · « **Reply #1740 on:** September 26, 2016, 07:14:06 PM »

So, I was watching the making of Deliverance by Opeth and I saw how much work Steven Wilson helped produced and I had heard about Porcupine Tree, but never heard any of their songs. Is there any albums or songs you'd recommend to get into this band?

I usually like to listen to debut albums and go up from there, but when I listened to Porcupine Tree's debut (the first and second song,) I was turned off.

Any suggestions?

King Postwhore · « **Reply #1741 on:** September 26, 2016, 07:20:51 PM »

In Absentia
Deadwing
Fear of a Black Planet

NoseofNicko · « **Reply #1742 on:** September 26, 2016, 07:50:16 PM »

^This.

orcus116 · « **Reply #1743 on:** September 26, 2016, 07:59:50 PM »

Quote from: Scar on September 26, 2016, 07:14:06 PM

I usually like to listen to debut albums and go up from there, but when I listened to Porcupine Tree's debut (the first and second song,) I was turned off.

Haha yeah that's not a really good place to start. Go with In Absentia and Deadwing.

SystematicThought · « **Reply #1744 on:** September 26, 2016, 08:08:22 PM »

Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 14, 2016, 01:37:04 AM

I want PT back.

I know it's all SW mainly, but there's some special chemistry (for lack of a better word) in PT that's missing in his solo work. While I enjoy his solo work, I would rank most of the PT discography above it.

I think they had a feel that his solo work doesn't have. And I miss Gavin's drums. I don't think I've seen another drummer who knows how to tune a drum quite like him

goo-goo · « **Reply #1745 on:** September 26, 2016, 08:59:45 PM »

Quote from: SystematicThought on September 26, 2016, 08:08:22 PM

Quote from: Kwyjibo on April 14, 2016, 01:37:04 AM
I want PT back.

I know it's all SW mainly, but there's some special chemistry (for lack of a better word) in PT that's missing in his solo work. While I enjoy his solo work, I would rank most of the PT discography above it.
I think they had a feel that his solo work doesn't have. And I miss Gavin's drums. I don't think I've seen another drummer who knows how to tune a drum quite like him

This is what I miss most on Steven's solo outings: Gavin. He plays for the song. Love all the small details that adds to the music. It seems like Craig Blundell is bringing this nuance playing (with a bit more power) a bit more compared to Marco.

Big Hath · « **Reply #1746 on:** September 26, 2016, 11:01:41 PM »

Quote from: Scar on September 26, 2016, 07:14:06 PM

So, I was watching the making of Deliverance by Opeth and I saw how much work Steven Wilson helped produced and I had heard about Porcupine Tree, but never heard any of their songs. Is there any albums or songs you'd recommend to get into this band?

I usually like to listen to debut albums and go up from there, but when I listened to Porcupine Tree's debut (the first and second song,) I was turned off.

Any suggestions?

heh, you probably should have picked this band if you were going to do a one-band-only round in your roulette

BlackInk · « **Reply #1747 on:** September 27, 2016, 02:48:06 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on September 26, 2016, 07:20:51 PM

In Absentia
Deadwing
Fear of a Black Planet

Definetely this.

SoundscapeMN · « **Reply #1748 on:** September 28, 2016, 11:10:49 AM »

good album.

BlackInk · « **Reply #1749 on:** September 28, 2016, 12:39:22 PM »

that's mah JAM

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