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Offline KevShmev

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The forgotten "other" solo
« on: February 19, 2012, 10:30:00 AM »
This happens quite a bit, where a song features multiple solos, one of which is so great and legendary that the other solo(s) are almost forgotten or never talked about, and sometimes those other solos are arguably as great, or close to it anyway.  The one that always comes to mind for me:

Comfortably Numb (the first solo) - The solo at the end is quite possibly the great guitar solo ever, but that first solo is not far behind.  In fact, there are times where I actually prefer that first solo.  And yet because of the legendary status of the second solo, which is well-deserved, it seems like no one ever talks about the first solo.

Anyone other examples?

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 10:57:41 AM »
Boy this is a good one.  I'll have to think about it.
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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 11:02:44 AM »
"Powerslave" by Iron Maiden came to mind.  Both solos are great, but I think the first solo (which is Murray's, I believe) trumps the second so bad that I usually forget about the second one.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 11:17:18 AM »
I think everybody raves on a bit too much about the opening shredding in The Glass Prison, when it's the solo section later that always blows me away.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 12:08:18 PM »
This is going to be hard since the best example is already in the OP.  :lol
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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2012, 12:30:16 PM »
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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2012, 12:31:50 PM »
This is going to be hard since the best example is already in the OP.  :lol

That too.  After I saw Kev's OP I was stumped for a little bit.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2012, 12:37:37 PM »
The one that gets the glory

The forgotten one

I was actually thinking of Metallica's run of ballads that ended in a long, fast instrumental section myself. The problem I was having is that none of the early solos in Fade to Black, Welcome Home, or One are, to me at least, particularly memorable. But I do agree that with those songs, everyone remembers the end of the song and not the others.

Oh, I got one! Tunnel of Love by Dire Straits. The end solo is fantastic, but the one in the middle is pretty good too, but I hardly ever remember it when I think about that song.
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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2012, 05:30:46 PM »
Kid Charlemagne.  The first solo is classic, but outro is cool too.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2012, 07:35:51 PM »
Comfortably Numb (the first solo) - The solo at the end is quite possibly the great guitar solo ever, but that first solo is not far behind.  In fact, there are times where I actually prefer that first solo.  And yet because of the legendary status of the second solo, which is well-deserved, it seems like no one ever talks about the first solo.

I've always loved how the first solo is over the major progression ("there is no pain, you are receding...") but the second solo is over the minor progression (the verse).  Great contrast, and yes, that first solo is beautiful.  Gilmour's tone, as always, is perfect.

Tunnel of Love by Dire Straits. The end solo is fantastic, but the one in the middle is pretty good too, but I hardly ever remember it when I think about that song.

Sultans of Swing is the same.  The first solo is short and sweet, but very tasty.  The one on the way out is brilliant.  Whenever I catch it on the radio, I hope to hell that they let it play all the way out, because it comes back to the hook just as it fades completely out.  Too often, they cut it off and I have to get angry for a while.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2012, 08:14:24 PM »
I think the 17th solo in Hangar 18 is the best, but the 12th always gets the most love.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 08:26:44 PM »
I think the 17th solo in Hangar 18 is the best, but the 12th always gets the most love.
There's only 9 solos in Hangar 18, silly.
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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2012, 08:37:24 PM »
I think the 17th solo in Hangar 18 is the best, but the 12th always gets the most love.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2012, 11:37:29 PM »
I can think of a couple of Dream Theater songs like this.

A Nightmare to Remember: the first 5/8 solo early in the song is a wild solo that is never mentioned because of the wank-fest that happens after the "Beautiful Agony" section.


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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 02:01:46 AM »
Really? I thought no one wanted to talk about the solos after ''Beautiful Agony'' because they were so awful.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2012, 06:39:02 AM »
Kevin Moore's solo in Under a Glass Moon.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2012, 07:03:14 AM »
I can think of a couple of Dream Theater songs like this.

A Nightmare to Remember: the first 5/8 solo early in the song is a wild solo that is never mentioned because of the wank-fest that happens after the "Beautiful Agony" section.

The solos after the "Beautiful Agony" section kill the song. 

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2012, 08:00:52 AM »
I can think of a couple of Dream Theater songs like this.

A Nightmare to Remember: the first 5/8 solo early in the song is a wild solo that is never mentioned because of the wank-fest that happens after the "Beautiful Agony" section.

The solos after the "Beautiful Agony" section kill the song. 

I won't argue this, because I agree, but no one talks about the solo from earlier in the song. There should have been a better transition

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2012, 12:35:53 PM »
Comfortably Numb (the first solo) - The solo at the end is quite possibly the great guitar solo ever, but that first solo is not far behind.  In fact, there are times where I actually prefer that first solo.  And yet because of the legendary status of the second solo, which is well-deserved, it seems like no one ever talks about the first solo.

I've always loved how the first solo is over the major progression ("there is no pain, you are receding...") but the second solo is over the minor progression (the verse). Great contrast, and yes, that first solo is beautiful.  Gilmour's tone, as always, is perfect.
 

Ya know, I've never really thought of that, despite having listened to the song probably 1,000 times.  Good mention! :tup :tup

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2012, 12:43:10 PM »
Hope I inderstand the op.
For me  it is Yngwie's outro solo on Suffer Me that upstages the main solo. More passion, fire and spontaneity for me.

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Re: The forgotten "other" solo
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2012, 05:05:00 PM »
Hope I inderstand the op.
For me  it is Yngwie's outro solo on Suffer Me that upstages the main solo. More passion, fire and spontaneity for me.

Michael Schenker also has a way of doing this. His outros are incredible. I love his second album..the outros on Looking For Love and On And On  :metal
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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