Author Topic: Dave Mustaine endorses Rick Santorum (Read 8178 times)

TL · « **Reply #36 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:16:27 PM »

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on February 17, 2012, 11:50:45 AM

Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 11:49:19 AM
Thomas Jefferson is on there. Hell, he wrote the damn thing. You're argument is invalid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

See political party.

You seem to think you're being clever. Usually when a person does that, it's a good idea to make sure they're actually right first.

There's a drastic difference between the 'Democratic-Republican' party Jefferson was affiliated with, and any incarnation of the Republican party (which wasn't really a thing until the 1850s). Even then, the Republican party and Democratic party basically switched sides on many issues between the 1950s and the late 1960s. The Republican party underwent another drastic shift during the Reagan years, and another beginning around the early 2000s. They changed further still in the past few years.
Yes, the current Republican party happens to share half the name of a political party from around 200-ish years ago. That's about all the two have in common. What exactly is your point?

73109 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:24:25 PM »

Thank you. Jefferson was a left wing, anti big government, pro farmer, anti business, deistic genius. Does not sound like modern day republicanism to me.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #38 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:27:56 PM »

Anti big government is HELLA republican.
And oh yeah, I just used hella.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:28:27 PM »

Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:24:25 PM

Jefferson was a left wing, anti big government

Those two are contradictions, sir.

Sigz · « **Reply #40 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:29:55 PM »

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on February 17, 2012, 11:47:31 AM

Here's a list of other "hardliner" Republicans.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Us_declaration_independence_signatures.jpg

73109 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:30:23 PM »

Noam Chomsky and George Orwell. Seriously guys. At least try a little.

Sigz · « **Reply #42 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:34:07 PM »

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on February 17, 2012, 12:28:27 PM

Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:24:25 PM
Jefferson was a left wing, anti big government

Those two are contradictions, sir.

And you think Santorum is anti-big government?

73109 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:34:49 PM »

Not ever leftist is Joseph Stalin. Libertarian Socialism exists people.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #44 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:35:32 PM »

Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:30:23 PM

Noam Chomsky and George Orwell. Seriously guys. At least try a little.

I'm not even trying dude, matter of fact I'm just killing time listening to new Periphery before class lol.

snapple · « **Reply #45 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:36:20 PM »

@numbers
It's bewildering to think that you could have been banned from P/R.

@TR

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There's a drastic difference between the 'Democratic-Republican' party Jefferson was affiliated with, and any incarnation of the Republican party (which wasn't really a thing until the 1850s). Even then, the Republican party and Democratic party basically switched sides on many issues between the 1950s and the late 1960s. The Republican party underwent another drastic shift during the Reagan years, and another beginning around the early 2000s. They changed further still in the past few years.

Correct. I disagree with the rest of your post. But, it'll be wasted time arguing something insignificant to the discussion.

@DC

Hella hella hella!

Sigz · « **Reply #46 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:38:29 PM »

Quote from: snapple on February 17, 2012, 12:36:20 PM

@numbers
It's bewildering to think that you could have been banned from P/R.

73109 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:42:45 PM »

My banning does not change the fact that I am right about the libertarian left.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #48 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:44:16 PM »

Quote from: snapple on February 17, 2012, 12:36:20 PM

@numbers
It's bewildering to think that you could have been banned from P/R.

@TR
Quote
There's a drastic difference between the 'Democratic-Republican' party Jefferson was affiliated with, and any incarnation of the Republican party (which wasn't really a thing until the 1850s). Even then, the Republican party and Democratic party basically switched sides on many issues between the 1950s and the late 1960s. The Republican party underwent another drastic shift during the Reagan years, and another beginning around the early 2000s. They changed further still in the past few years.

Correct. I disagree with the rest of your post. But, it'll be wasted time arguing something insignificant to the discussion.

@DC

Hella hella hella!

rada rada

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #49 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:45:03 PM »

I can't continue this discussion any further without getting dragged into a clusterfuck debate rooted mainly in opinions as firm as mine.

But I will point out that the bulk of Endgame's (the last Megadeth album I have listened to) lyrics tend to decry all things related to big government. Which is pretty much what Obama is all about. Add that to the fact that Dave is all "born again" these days, with Santorum being highly religious and espousing the virtues of small government... you got a Santorum endorsement.

Quote from: Sigz on February 17, 2012, 12:34:07 PM

Quote from: ZKX-2099 on February 17, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:24:25 PM
Jefferson was a left wing, anti big government

Those two are contradictions, sir.

And you think Santorum is anti-big government?

More than Obama and Romney.

73109 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:45:59 PM »

And btw, Santorum wants to limit who you can and can't have sex with...totally for that small government, man.

snapple · « **Reply #51 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:46:31 PM »

Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:45:59 PM

And btw, Santorum wants to limit who you can and can't have sex with...totally for that small government, man.

Citation, please.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:49:53 PM »

Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:45:59 PM

And btw, Santorum wants to limit who you can and can't have sex with...totally for that small government, man.

Oh crap. I forgot that on the internet, disparaging one thing means people will automatically think your in favor of the opposite.

Maybe I'll post a summary of my political views... nah it's more fun watching people getting me wrong.

73109 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:50:12 PM »

On my phone. Will cite when I get home.

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:51:26 PM »

Your source better not be media matters or moveon.

snapple · « **Reply #55 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:52:46 PM »

I just read about it. Meh, he's confusing the line between his beliefs and, what would be, his job as President. He would not be the first, and certainly would not be the last.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #56 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:55:00 PM »

Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:45:59 PM

And btw, Santorum wants to limit who you can and can't have sex with...totally for that small government, man.

That has to do with his religion, something that's known for Republicans to do, shove religion down your throat.
EDIT: Just know I'm not personally attacking any Republicans on here, I'm talking about the candidates.

snapple · « **Reply #57 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:56:41 PM »

Quote from: Dark Castle on February 17, 2012, 12:55:00 PM

Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:45:59 PM
And btw, Santorum wants to limit who you can and can't have sex with...totally for that small government, man.
That has to do with his religion, something that's known for crazy, fuckwad Republicans to do, shove religion down your throat.

Don't lob us all into the same group.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #58 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:57:52 PM »

Quote from: snapple on February 17, 2012, 12:56:41 PM

Quote from: Dark Castle on February 17, 2012, 12:55:00 PM
Quote from: 73109 on February 17, 2012, 12:45:59 PM
And btw, Santorum wants to limit who you can and can't have sex with...totally for that small government, man.
That has to do with his religion, something that's known for crazy, fuckwad Republicans to do, shove religion down your throat.

Don't lob us all into the same group.

Sorry I edited my post a little late, didn't mean to lob you with Santorum, Paul, and Romney

73109 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:58:17 PM »

Republican or not, his views on that are the direct opposite of so called big government.

FiberglassMoon · « **Reply #60 on:** February 17, 2012, 12:59:43 PM »

This was inevitable

antigoon · « **Reply #61 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:35:28 PM »

What the fuck happened in this thread? The Declaration of Independence?

Dark Castle · « **Reply #62 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:37:42 PM »

Quote from: antigoon on February 17, 2012, 01:35:28 PM

What the fuck happened in this thread? The Declaration of Independence?

4 SCORE AND 7 YEARS AGO, OU-.....wait a minute..

AcidLameLTE · « **Reply #63 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:38:59 PM »

Dark Castle · « **Reply #64 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:40:40 PM »

On topic though, I've never really liked Megadeth all that much aside from a few of the classics, so I've never really thought of Dave as some awesome dude, so I just take this as him being his usual crazy self.
EDIT: Also AcidLame, if you're referring to me, I was just kidding, I know that's from the Gettysburg Address

ZKX-2099 · « **Reply #65 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:48:42 PM »

Quote from: Dark Castle on February 17, 2012, 01:40:40 PM

On topic though, I've never really liked Megadeth all that much aside from a few of the classics, so I've never really thought of Dave as some awesome dude, so I just take this as him being his usual crazy self.

Yeah pretty much. Crazy redheads in the music biz...

Dave should do something with Axl Rose.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #66 on:** February 17, 2012, 01:52:57 PM »

Quote from: antigoon on February 17, 2012, 01:35:28 PM

What the fuck happened in this thread? The Derailing of the thread of Independence?

More like.

kirksnosehair · « **Reply #67 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:08:20 PM »

Wow, there's a shark somewhere trying really hard to jump and failing

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #68 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:14:24 PM »

This thread. Just...no.

Quote from: lateralus88 on February 17, 2012, 12:34:17 AM

Quote from: black_floyd on February 16, 2012, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: Ultimetalhead on February 16, 2012, 11:36:51 AM
Dave's got some fucked political views, that's for sure. Doesn't stop him from being one of the best guitarists on the planet.

That doesn't. This on the other hand...
I knew, I fucking KNEW that was the video you were going to link. And I knew that I'd hate myself for listening to that solo again. Le sigh.

I really don't find the solo as bad as everyone else does. Yeah, it obviously isn't as good as how Dime played it, but it's fucking DIME.

lateralus88 · « **Reply #69 on:** February 17, 2012, 02:23:34 PM »

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on February 17, 2012, 02:14:24 PM

This thread. Just...no.
Quote from: lateralus88 on February 17, 2012, 12:34:17 AM
Quote from: black_floyd on February 16, 2012, 02:07:14 PM
Quote from: Ultimetalhead on February 16, 2012, 11:36:51 AM
Dave's got some fucked political views, that's for sure. Doesn't stop him from being one of the best guitarists on the planet.

That doesn't. This on the other hand...
I knew, I fucking KNEW that was the video you were going to link. And I knew that I'd hate myself for listening to that solo again. Le sigh.
I really don't find the solo as bad as everyone else does. Yeah, it obviously isn't as good as how Dime played it, but it's fucking DIME.

"Hi I'm Dave Mustaine let me just take something perfectly good and...hrrrmmm...hold on...uhnnnggg....there we are. Nice and raped."

News: Track-by-track video for Fall Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ezfzdMpRc0

Author Topic: Dave Mustaine endorses Rick Santorum (Read 8178 times)