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Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« on: February 09, 2012, 09:52:46 AM »
Ones I will never give money to anymore:

Ozzy Osbourne - Paying for anything involving him is like giving money to that evil witch he calls his wife and that ain't happening.  Ever.
Eddie Van Halen - What happened to this guy?  Did the Hagar and Roth fiascos in the mid 90s really turned him into this big of an a-hole, or did he just really hide it well for a long time?
Axl Rose - THE biggest d-bag in rock, bar none, but seeing that I am not much of a fan of GnR, outside of a handful of songs, I would never spend money on their albums or concerts anyway.  The only times I have owned any of their albums were used copies I got for really cheap at a used CD store, and the band never sees that money. :biggrin:

Ones I sometimes have to think twice about:

Roger Waters - I'll usually pony up if it is something I really want, but I won't go overboard.  For example, I would have liked to have seen The Wall show he did here in late 2010, but I refused to pay nearly $200 for it. 
Mike Portnoy - He is involved in too many projects I already love (Neal Morse, Transatlantic, etc.) to write him off completely, but I am a lot less likely to check out and spend money on any new projects of his than I was two years ago. 

I think that's about it for now.

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2012, 10:23:00 AM »
I had a hard time with the $150 for the Waters/Wall ticket (as I would for any show, but I chalked that up to 1) being the only chance I've ever see any PF member perform and 2) back pay for years and years of musical enjoyment. It was totally worth it. If I thought about it, I am sure I could think of artists I would not want to give money to on principle, but with a wife and baby my music-related expenditures are pretty low these days.

Based on principle, I am actually much more hesitant to buy tickets and merch for sporting events.

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2012, 10:24:41 AM »
I usually spend money to get stuff.

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2012, 10:29:15 AM »
I usually spend money to get stuff.
This.  If you don't want to give an artist money, whatever, it's not going to effect them really.

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2012, 10:29:37 AM »
I'll give money to whoever is releasing/playing good music. That's my only criteria. I couldn't care less about their personal lives or what they're like in person. I'd personally find it pointless and petty to deny myself good music because of something that has zero bearing on what I'm actually paying money for, be it an album or live show. Once they can't deliver that, that's when they stop getting my money.
Ozzy? He's not getting my money because his last album was dreadful, and the one before that was marginal at best, not because his wife is a bitch. :lol

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 10:40:12 AM »
I'll give money to whoever is releasing/playing good music. That's my only criteria. I couldn't care less about their personal lives or what they're like in person. I'd personally find it pointless and petty to deny myself good music because of something that has zero bearing on what I'm actually paying money for, be it an album or live show. Once they can't deliver that, that's when they stop getting my money.
Ozzy? He's not getting my money because his last album was dreadful, and the one before that was marginal at best, not because his wife is a bitch. :lol
I thought Scream was a great recovery, where as Black Rain was kind of a stain on his discography.

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2012, 10:41:05 AM »
I usually spend money to get stuff.
This.  If you don't want to give an artist money, whatever, it's not going to effect them really.

I realize that, but it is a matter of principle to me. ;) 

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 10:44:20 AM »
I'll give money to whoever is releasing/playing good music. That's my only criteria. I couldn't care less about their personal lives or what they're like in person. I'd personally find it pointless and petty to deny myself good music because of something that has zero bearing on what I'm actually paying money for, be it an album or live show. Once they can't deliver that, that's when they stop getting my money.
Ozzy? He's not getting my money because his last album was dreadful, and the one before that was marginal at best, not because his wife is a bitch. :lol
I thought Scream was a great recovery, where as Black Rain was kind of a stain on his discography.

I personally think Scream is his first album with not a single thing to redeem it (and I love pretty much all of his albums). Black Rain had 2 or 3 great tracks for me (the first two tracks, The Almighty Dollar). Scream is just mush garbage to me. I'll give his next album a chance, but he lost the benefit of the doubt for me with Scream.
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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 10:47:15 AM »
I'll give money to whoever is releasing/playing good music. That's my only criteria. I couldn't care less about their personal lives or what they're like in person. I'd personally find it pointless and petty to deny myself good music because of something that has zero bearing on what I'm actually paying money for, be it an album or live show. Once they can't deliver that, that's when they stop getting my money.
Ozzy? He's not getting my money because his last album was dreadful, and the one before that was marginal at best, not because his wife is a bitch. :lol
I thought Scream was a great recovery, where as Black Rain was kind of a stain on his discography.

I personally think Scream is his first album with not a single thing to redeem it (and I love pretty much all of his albums). Black Rain had 2 or 3 great tracks for me (the first two tracks, The Almighty Dollar). Scream is just mush garbage to me. I'll give his next album a chance, but he lost the benefit of the doubt for me with Scream.
I liked pretty much all of Scream but my favorites were, Crucify, Bringing Me Down, Soul Sucker, and Life Won't Wait

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2012, 10:56:35 AM »
I don't really have any criteria for this. The music I listen to is music I like, and I would pay to get music I like.
While I can agree that musicians like Axl Rose and Osbourne are artists I would never pay money for, it's not only because of their personalities, but mostly the fact that their music does nothing for me.

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2012, 11:27:14 AM »
It basically just comes down to the quality of the music for me. However, I'm willing to spend a little bit more at times with smaller bands who are just starting out, or if I know the band is financing things themselves.

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2012, 01:17:42 PM »
I'm in the "quality is my criteria" camp as well.  I don't really get too involved with or bothered by the personal lives of musicians.  If they're making music I want to listen to then I will buy it.

Some bands that I've recently removed from my automatic buy list because I feel the quality of their output has declined would be:

Symphony X
and
Pain of Salvation

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 01:36:57 PM »
I'll give money to whoever is releasing/playing good music. That's my only criteria. I couldn't care less about their personal lives or what they're like in person. I'd personally find it pointless and petty to deny myself good music because of something that has zero bearing on what I'm actually paying money for, be it an album or live show. Once they can't deliver that, that's when they stop getting my money.
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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 09:39:07 PM »
a couple years ago i followed posts on blabbermouth quite a bit...and with their extensive megadave coverage, i was pointed to quite a number of interviews, quotes, etc.   ...and i kinda realized, dave's quite a dick.

i still love his music, but it the idea of him getting a portion of my money, no matter how small it is, rather irks me.

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2012, 09:56:33 PM »
I'll give money to whoever is releasing/playing good music. That's my only criteria. I couldn't care less about their personal lives or what they're like in person. I'd personally find it pointless and petty to deny myself good music because of something that has zero bearing on what I'm actually paying money for, be it an album or live show. Once they can't deliver that, that's when they stop getting my money.
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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2012, 06:30:31 AM »
I saw at least 50 gigs last year in London, 20 of which being really big ones... God knows how much I spent ... Ozzy gig was definitely money well-spent... Amazing gig... Best after DT..

The only big production I skipped last year was Bon Jovi... and I'm still happy with my decision.. I refused to pay £75 for a band which I've never been a fan of and was expensive only because there was a huge demand from fangirls... I mean Rush, Roger Waters and Iron Maiden were for around £45 for heaven's sake...

but normally, I'm happy to pay for gigs, albums and merchandise...


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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2012, 07:52:53 AM »
Can't think of any.  I dropped the $250 for the Wall, and considered it money well spent.  Not going to see VH just because I really don't have the desire.  But I do fall in the camp with those who don't give a shit about personal lives, I mean c'mon, they are rock stars after all.

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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2012, 06:10:23 PM »
I'm in the "quality is my criteria" camp as well.  I don't really get too involved with or bothered by the personal lives of musicians.  If they're making music I want to listen to then I will buy it.

Some bands that I've recently removed from my automatic buy list because I feel the quality of their output has declined would be:

Symphony X
and
Pain of Salvation

Fucking smart, Barry.

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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2012, 06:12:30 PM »
I'm in the "quality is my criteria" camp as well.  I don't really get too involved with or bothered by the personal lives of musicians.  If they're making music I want to listen to then I will buy it.

Some bands that I've recently removed from my automatic buy list because I feel the quality of their output has declined would be:

Symphony X
and
Pain of Salvation

Fucking smart, Barry.
This, yet people still manage to say I support racism and murdering because I listen to Burzum.  IT ALL MAKES SENSE, I NEED TO CONVERT TO GOSPEL MUSIC.

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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2012, 06:15:12 PM »
Erryone is a bit racist. Don't worry, brah.

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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2012, 12:05:28 AM »
If I like it I have to buy it. Just how it goes regardless of other aspects of the artist. Ozzy is no exception but the last time I liked music by Ozzy was the Gets Me Through album at least 5 years ago.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2012, 07:36:24 AM »
In terms of music that I auto buy without hearing it well I can only think of a few artists (Kaki King, dredg, Fair To Midland).

As for supporting bands, if I like it, I'll pay for it, although Steve Wilson makes it hard. I won't get into why but a few things rub me the wrong way about him, but I like his music, and what I like I'll buy.

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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2012, 09:11:46 AM »
If I like the music I will pay.  I'm more deterred by the cost of some concerts to be honest.
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Re: Musicians you are hesitant to give money to
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2012, 10:38:09 AM »
Ted Nugent will never see a dime from me, despite me liking a lot of his 1970s output. I think even if I leaned right wing, I'd think he was batshit insane. Dave Mustaine is getting that way, but thankfully the last Megadeth album was so lacking that I didn't really miss not buying it.

I won't give a dime to any of those black metal bands that cast themselves as being National Socialist. Yeah. That's really fucking dumb.

And yes. Being convicted of murder is a one way ticket off my buying list. But to be fair, this applies everywhere, not just music.
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