Federal Court rules Prop 8 Unconstitutional

[Scheavo]

Having kids and being married have nothing to do with each other tax wise.  There are credits and deductions for children, and they dont rely on being married.  Those tax breaks are there for married and single parents.

Also, one could state that it can be more difficult for a single person than a married couple.  Housing costs per person go down when there are two people and two incomes.  Same with things like insurance and utilities.

Unless, ya know, it's two people and one income.

But since you bring up insurance, there's another issue where "being married" can bring some benefits. It allows you to get your partner on your same health insurance plan, which can bring savings and other benefits.

[Chino]

[bosk1]

Wow, so much for not setting the cause back several steps. 

[Vivace]

Louis C.K. seems to hint where the issue lies but misses the mark completely. It is a "social" issue that has had a few generations to fully encapsulate itself into the world and be accepted only because two people are in love and not how we got there in the first place. It's easy to dismiss the past by making excuses for the present, especially when the current generation isn't bothered to look into the past to understand the present. There is a reason why the traditional family is on the decline and single mothers or single parent families are on the rise. . Because it "is" a social development. A development that now sees the rise of homosexuality as some kind of a solution perhaps. But the solution comes without an understanding of why we need a solution, only as a "it's better because it is".

[Ben_Jamin]

If Prop 8 supporters are concerned about "marriage" being defiled, why can't marriage just be a religious institution if people so choose, and have the government simply recognize "civil unions" for all?  Everyone gets treated the same and marriage is left untouched.  Win win.

That sounds like a great idea.

I thought that's implied. The people bashing same sex marriage are trying to say it's religious custom, not Christian but everywhere. Now, what the gays want is Civil Union, the same benefits from the govt. Unless they want the fairytale wedding. But they should understand, it won't happen until the world accepts our differences to unite.

[rumborak]

Because it "is" a social development. A development that now sees the rise of homosexuality as some kind of a solution perhaps.

I'm sorry, but that is such ludicrous statement Did you not even stop yourself when writing this?!

Nobody, absolutely nobody sees homosexual marriage as a "solution" to the social trend of faltering marriages. Our point is simply and solely, if you (in plural) can't get your shit together with the regular marriages, then don't get on the high horse and deprive other people from it.
I'm sorry, Vivace, but your statement was mind-boggingly ludicrous.

rumborak

[snapple]

Because it "is" a social development. A development that now sees the rise of homosexuality as some kind of a solution perhaps.

I'm sorry, but that is such ludicrous statement Did you not even stop yourself when writing this?!

Nobody, absolutely nobody sees homosexual marriage as a "solution" to the social trend of faltering marriages. Our point is simply and solely, if you (in plural) can't get your shit together with the regular marriages, then don't get on the high horse and deprive other people from it.
I'm sorry, Vivace, but your statement was mind-boggingly ludicrous.

rumborak

Uh, going to have to go with rumborak here.

[kirksnosehair]

Because it "is" a social development. A development that now sees the rise of homosexuality as some kind of a solution perhaps.

I'm sorry, but that is such ludicrous statement Did you not even stop yourself when writing this?!

Nobody, absolutely nobody sees homosexual marriage as a "solution" to the social trend of faltering marriages. Our point is simply and solely, if you (in plural) can't get your shit together with the regular marriages, then don't get on the high horse and deprive other people from it.
I'm sorry, Vivace, but your statement was mind-boggingly ludicrous.

rumborak

Uh, going to have to go with rumborak here.

Yup

[skydivingninja]

I agree with everyone in this thread who thinks its ridiculous that gay people still can't get married everywhere in this country. 

[soundgarden]

I support the notion of removing "marriage" from the state and allow for civil unions.  Let the various faiths bicker among themselves about "marriage."  When they decide, then they go to get a civil union.