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Re: Heritage Not Hate
« Reply #105 on: January 31, 2012, 10:54:07 PM »
Even if you're allowed to use a certain symbol, you can't just ignore a meaning that the majority of people associate with it. Fly the flag if you want, but be aware that many, many people interpret it and those who fly it a certain way.

You can't just ignore the majority view because you disagree with it. I'm not going to walk around with an image of a swastika, and then feign ignorance when people get offended. Sure, the swastika was a symbol of Hinduism, and many other things, before it gained its more notorious reputation, but it DOES carry that negative interpretation now for most people. Even if my intent was entirely based around one of the innocent uses of the symbol, I know damn well what it means to most people.

A person may fly the confederate flag solely because they're proud of living in the south, without intending anything racist. That doesn't change the fact that most people do consider it a racist symbol, and it's well known that it has that reputation. Yes, you have the freedom to display it, but it isn't unreasonable for people to be offended if you do.

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« Reply #106 on: February 01, 2012, 12:08:01 AM »
...but the vast majority of people in the US would instantly associate it with a slave culture.

I don't think this is true at all.

....It is. Drive through a black neighborhood with that flag waving from your truck. See how long you last.
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« Reply #107 on: February 01, 2012, 04:13:16 AM »
...but the vast majority of people in the US would instantly associate it with a slave culture.

I don't think this is true at all.

....It is. Drive through a black neighborhood with that flag waving from your truck. See how long you last.

I think it is more thought of these days as generically racist, not specifically related to slave culture.
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Re: Heritage Not Hate
« Reply #108 on: February 01, 2012, 07:22:27 AM »
...but the vast majority of people in the US would instantly associate it with a slave culture.
I don't think this is true at all.
....It is. Drive through a black neighborhood with that flag waving from your truck. See how long you last.
I think it is more thought of these days as generically racist, not specifically related to slave culture.
There's probably a reason I almost never see the Battle Flag or its likeness in Atlanta.

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Re: Heritage Not Hate
« Reply #109 on: February 01, 2012, 09:04:01 AM »
LOL...yeah, probably doesnt pop up too much in Compton or Harlem either.
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Re: Heritage Not Hate
« Reply #110 on: February 01, 2012, 09:59:39 AM »
It only pops up in more rural areas with mostly conservative white people.

That's my guess for the majority anyway.

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Re: Heritage Not Hate
« Reply #111 on: February 02, 2012, 05:01:13 AM »
It only pops up in more rural areas with mostly conservative white people.

That's my guess for the majority anyway.
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Re: Heritage Not Hate
« Reply #112 on: February 03, 2012, 04:41:45 PM »
I never thought about it as a regional thing, but it makes sense if that's the case.
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