Luxury cruiser runs aground in Tuscany, holy cr*p

[rumborak]

https://www.cnn.com/2012/01/14/world/europe/italy-cruise-deaths/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

3 dead, many unaccounted for. 

rumborak

[dethklok09]

Damn 

[AcidLameLTE]

Yeah, I saw that on the BBC today. Crazy.

There's a whole bunch of pictures here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16560050

[Bongasti]

I wonder how they are going to get the ship out of there.

[wasteland]

As one of the most active Italian here, I'll provide some fresh news:

- The captain has just been arrested for "shipwreck, homicide and escape". The prosecutor told the media, a couple of minutes ago, that Cpt. Schettino had indeed left the ship together with some officials 6 hours before the last passengers were cleared from the cruiser.

- As a result of this, the evacuation of the ship was carried out at least in part by mariners or waiters who could not speak or understand italian or english and who had not been fully prepared to handle an emergency. Although unsmoothly, the evacuation was carried out at least decently, and most of the life boats were employed.

- The ship was about 5 miles away from its theoretical track, and hit a well known rock. The captain, however, still maintains that the rock was previously unknown and uncharted. This statement has been disputed and almost certainly proved false. It has to be said that it was somehow habitual for "Costa" ships to sail so close to the Giglio island to hail the towners with the ship horn.

- There are 41 missing at the moment. A journalist who was aboard at the time of the disaster refers that the rock tore the hull near the kitchens, where about 150 (mostly immigrants from the Philippines) worked at the time of the contact (it was dinner time). Those missing may be among them, as that part of the ship was certainly the one to have suffered the highest damage.

- For about an hour and a half, no order of evacuation was given. The passengers were told to gather outside and that in a short time the cruise would have resumed. No one but the crew was aware at the time that the ship had indeed collided with a rock, since the official explaination to the passenger was that of a generic "electric malfunctioning".

- Most of the rescued (4200) are well and are beginning to be sent back to their home. However, a few dozen were injured (a small number show life-threatening wounds) and are currently hospitalized.


Sorry for whatever mistake you may find, this was written in a rush.

[Super Dude]

Folks, if you wanna sail, sail Royal Caribbean. They made so many flubs in this incident I was speechless when I heard about it.

[Zook]

LET ME INTRODUCE
MY CRUISER


Sad sad story.

[Progmetty]

I was distracted by "aground" for a minute or so but now I know a new longer word for "sank"
Unfortunate accident for sure. The picture shows the cruiser sank close to a seemingly climbable rock formation which I would imagine to be a blessing for the an uninjured and able to swim!

Two survivors on the Costa Concordia have been found inside the ship, Italy's ANSA news agency reported early Sunday. The man and woman have responded to the rescuers, but have not yet been reached, according to the news agency. 

I take it that means there's a part of the ship that's still to this moment above water?

[El Barto]

If it hit a sandbar,  then it's probably as sunk as it's gonna be. 

[Cool Chris]

As someone who works for a major cruise line company, let me say I was very happy when I finally saw it was not one of our ships.

That being said, what a horrible tragedy that sounds like it was preventable. I am amazing only 3 deaths have been confirmed at this point.

[Super Dude]

What line do you work for?

[Chino]

I'm amazed the Internet isn't loaded with cellphone videos from people on board.

[Chino]

What's the estimated insurance claim on this?

[JayOctavarium]

Holy crap is right!

[MetalJunkie]

I'm amazed the Internet isn't loaded with cellphone videos from people on board.

Because cell phones work so well in water.

[wasteland]

If it hit a sandbar,  then it's probably as sunk as it's gonna be.

It is somehow hanging in the balance on an underwater cliff or sandbar, or something like that. If something big happens (i.e. the hull breaks in two) the ship will probably sink an additional 70 meters.

[Chino]

I'm amazed the Internet isn't loaded with cellphone videos from people on board.

Because cell phones work so well in water.

Almost all lifeboats were deployed... Thousands of people stayed dry.

[AcidLameLTE]

2 more bodies found so that's 5 dead now.

[chknptpie]

  wow, sad news

[wasteland]

2 more bodies found so that's 5 dead now.

Two old men, wearing lifejackets, trapped near the bow of the ship. Very sad...

[MetalJunkie]

I'm amazed the Internet isn't loaded with cellphone videos from people on board.

Because cell phones work so well in water.

Almost all lifeboats were deployed... Thousands of people stayed dry.

I doubt they were "dry." Completely soaked/drenched? Probably not. Dry? Doubt it.

From the time they started evacuation to well after the time they got into lifeboats, I can't envision a single moment in my head where pulling out a phone would be an acceptable move. They were concerned about survival and getting off the ship as quick as possible. Even once they got onto the lifeboats, I'm sure the majority of them were calling their family to let them know they were alive.

[Super Dude]

Whoever the company is, by the way, they're done for after this. If the monetary losses from having sunk a ship don't get 'em, the numerous lawsuits will.

[El Barto]

Whoever the company is, by the way, they're done for after this. If the monetary losses from having sunk a ship don't get 'em, the numerous lawsuits will.

Costa is part of the Carnival Group.  As I understand,  it's their European wing,  and the largest cruise ship operator in Europe.  This shouldn't sink them.  Plus,  you've got insurance for things like this.  Lots and lots of insurance.

What's interesting is what the final disposition of the ship will be.  Experts are calling this a total loss.  Plus you've got the enormous cost of salvage. 

[Super Dude]

Not Carnival, Costa is sunk (no pun intended). Not to mention they're gonna lose a ton of business for a period of time, as people get temporarily squeamish about Costa cruise liners.

[King Postwhore]

Damn that is unreal.

[El Barto]

Not Carnival, Costa is sunk (no pun intended). Not to mention they're gonna lose a ton of business for a period of time, as people get temporarily squeamish about Costa cruise liners.

They'll continue to operate.  My guess is that they'll pull a Valujet and re-brand themselves. 

[Cool Chris]

Costa is part of the Carnival Group. 

Oh shit, that is the parent company of my employer! There goes my profit sharing! 

[Kotowboy]

There is something about big big boats half underwater that is really really eerie. 

https://www.islandbreath.org/2010Year/05/100518shipsinks.jpg

Maybe it's the fact that you don't normally see them this way of that the ocean is so deep that such a huge object can go completely under..

Or it's just masses and masses of water just being where it's not supposed to be

I dunno - i find it fascinating.

[robwebster]

Don't know what anyone will make of this, but the story's made the front page of tomorrow's Guardian in a fairly audacious way...

[Kotowboy]

Whoops A Daisy !

[AcidLameLTE]

loltheguardian

[ZirconBlue]

Even though I know it's real, that photo is so surreal it looks photoshopped to me.

I'm amazed the Internet isn't loaded with cellphone videos from people on board.

Because cell phones work so well in water.

Almost all lifeboats were deployed... Thousands of people stayed dry.

I doubt they were "dry." Completely soaked/drenched? Probably not. Dry? Doubt it.

From the time they started evacuation to well after the time they got into lifeboats, I can't envision a single moment in my head where pulling out a phone would be an acceptable move. They were concerned about survival and getting off the ship as quick as possible. Even once they got onto the lifeboats, I'm sure the majority of them were calling their family to let them know they were alive.

I don't think this whole thing happened as quickly as you are imagining.

- For about an hour and a half, no order of evacuation was given. The passengers were told to gather outside and that in a short time the cruise would have resumed. No one but the crew was aware at the time that the ship had indeed collided with a rock, since the official explaination to the passenger was that of a generic "electric malfunctioning".

[Chino]

I'm amazed the Internet isn't loaded with cellphone videos from people on board.

Because cell phones work so well in water.

Almost all lifeboats were deployed... Thousands of people stayed dry.

I doubt they were "dry." Completely soaked/drenched? Probably not. Dry? Doubt it.

From the time they started evacuation to well after the time they got into lifeboats, I can't envision a single moment in my head where pulling out a phone would be an acceptable move. They were concerned about survival and getting off the ship as quick as possible. Even once they got onto the lifeboats, I'm sure the majority of them were calling their family to let them know they were alive.

Even if 1 in a 100 people managed to keep their phone or camera dry, there should be at least 40+ videos of the event.

[Cool Chris]

Attention world: When you are faced with a potentially catastrophic event that could lead to your death, please take videos with your cell phones for Chino

Not sure what this line's clientele is, but for my company, it is mainly people pushing 100 who have a hard time getting on the internet to print out their boarding documents. Taking a video with their cell phones might be a stretch for them.

Also, just got a company-wide email from Carnival’s CEO saying how we are committed to the safety of our crew and guests, blah blah blah.

[chknptpie]

https://news.yahoo.com/coast-guard-ordered-ship-captain-back-board-124134509.html

Coast Guard: There are people who are coming down the ladder on the bow. Go back in the opposite direction, get back on the ship, and tell me how many people there are and what they have on board. Tell me if there are children, women and what type of help they need. And you tell me the number of each of these categories. Is that clear?

Listen Schettino, perhaps you have saved yourself from the sea but I will make you look very bad. I will make you pay for this. Dammit, go back on board!

(Noise can be heard in the background. Apparently other Coast Guard officers are shouting to each other in the same room about "the ship, the ship")

Captain: Please ...

Coast Guard: There is no 'please' about it. Get back on board. Assure me you are going back on board!

Captain: I'm in a lifeboat, I am under here. I am not going anywhere. I am here.

Is there something mentally wrong with this guy? From reading the transcript, he seems "off".