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I don't blame the guy for being upset about the DT situation at all. It's justified. But his actions in response to it are totally not. Don't they say the best "revenge" is to live well? He's got a ton of new music coming out. Let that speak for itself, instead of continuing to burn bridges to the point where they look like the aftermath of the ADTOE cover.
You would think he would be content traveling all over the country as the personal guest of many bands, getting backstage for one of the biggest Metallica concerts of all time, and being featured on cable television constantly...but he's not. You kind of have to feel sorry for him. But I guess we shouldn't because he is as happy as can be and never forgets to tell us that...he's happy!!! Right?! He just always wants to remind people that he's happy!
MAN FUCK YOU KUJA.
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Quote from: Madman Shepherd on December 17, 2011, 08:57:23 AMYou would think he would be content traveling all over the country as the personal guest of many bands, getting backstage for one of the biggest Metallica concerts of all time, and being featured on cable television constantly...but he's not. You kind of have to feel sorry for him. But I guess we shouldn't because he is as happy as can be and never forgets to tell us that...he's happy!!! Right?! He just always wants to remind people that he's happy!Those kind of things pale in comparison to the exposure he had while being DT's drummer/leader. Most MP fans are Dream Theater fans, and not all Dream Theater fans are Mike Portnoy fans. Portnoy, for the first time in his career, is out there on his own and making his way out of it. He may have minor success with Mob and/or Flying Colors, but he'll never be as high as we was with Dream Theater.
Those kind of things pale in comparison to the exposure he had while being DT's drummer/leader. Most MP fans are Dream Theater fans, and not all Dream Theater fans are Mike Portnoy fans. Portnoy, for the first time in his career, is out there on his own and making his way out of it. He may have minor success with Mob and/or Flying Colors, but he'll never be as high as we was with Dream Theater.
I could see Adrenaline Mob being huge.
MPs comment on his site really distressed me and in a lot of ways frustrated me and Bosk rather poignantly (and I agree with 100%) pointed out the hypocrisy of the whole thing. I really don't know what is going through Mike's head right now, but I hope he finds a way out of it. He has openly accused Dream Theater of plagiarism which pretty much tears down whatever bridges he was trying to build. Is he purposely hijacking this or is there something else going on in the background? In any event, if he doesn't pull himself together soon he might find himself without any of the friends he made along the way. No one deserves to sink that low.
I don't know. I could see Adrenaline Mob being huge. Russell Allen is the best singer in the world who isn't Bruce Dickinson. And Mike Orlando is a total rock star, apart from being an awesome, ballsy player. The whole band totally delivers the goods live.
Kinda bored today and I decided to check out some Adrenaline Mob on YouTube. I stumbled upon a video in which someone compares an Adrenaline Mob riff to Dream Theater's "Lie." It's vaguely similar, in my opinion, to the same degree that DT's "BMU BMD" riff is similar to Red's "Feed the Machine." Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nKPqX2HWbc. Just throwing this out there because I thought it fits theme of this thread.
From On the Backs of AngelsRiding out the wave Content to FEED off THE MACHINE Bleeding us to death The new American dreamNUGGETT?
From Build Me Up, Break Me DownTonight I am the new messiahYou deifyWhen I'm no longer desiREDI'll be crucifiedNUGGET?
Kinda bored today and I decided to check out some Adrenaline Mob on YouTube. I stumbled upon a video in which someone compares an Adrenaline Mob riff to Dream Theater's "Lie." It's vaguely similar, in my opinion, to the same degree that DT's "BMU BMD" riff is similar to Red's "Feed the Machine." Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nKPqX2HWbc. Just throwing this out there because I thought it fits theme of this thread.My take on JP's riff is that artists are always influenced by other artists and try to take a theme and make it their own, or make it better. I mean, how many movies have you seen that have a similar plot or theme? I can name at least half a dozen movies that are about body swapping: "Freaky Friday," "13 Going on 30," "The Change Up." Art influences art. It always has, it always will.I really hope MP makes a New Years resolution to stop his DT bickering. It would also be nice if he congratulated DT on their Grammy nomination.
Quote from: Mebert78 on December 17, 2011, 01:20:06 PMKinda bored today and I decided to check out some Adrenaline Mob on YouTube. I stumbled upon a video in which someone compares an Adrenaline Mob riff to Dream Theater's "Lie." It's vaguely similar, in my opinion, to the same degree that DT's "BMU BMD" riff is similar to Red's "Feed the Machine." Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nKPqX2HWbc. Just throwing this out there because I thought it fits theme of this thread.My take on JP's riff is that artists are always influenced by other artists and try to take a theme and make it their own, or make it better. I mean, how many movies have you seen that have a similar plot or theme? I can name at least half a dozen movies that are about body swapping: "Freaky Friday," "13 Going on 30," "The Change Up." Art influences art. It always has, it always will.I really hope MP makes a New Years resolution to stop his DT bickering. It would also be nice if he congratulated DT on their Grammy nomination. forget the similarities to lie, WHY DOES THE GUITAR SOUND LIKE THAT
"Have you taked to any DT members recently?” I EMAILED THEM ALL TO CONGRATULATE ABOUT GRAMMY NOM...3 RESPONDED, 2 DIDN'T
From Mike's twitter:Quote from: Mike Portnoy"Have you taked to any DT members recently?” I EMAILED THEM ALL TO CONGRATULATE ABOUT GRAMMY NOM...3 RESPONDED, 2 DIDN'T
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EDIT: also, the album came out in february. ADTOE was recorded from January till March, so plagiarism isn't inconceivable. But I have a feeling that most of the songs were written before that album came out, or at least existed in a basic structure before they were polished. I think it was JR that said they all came in with demos or riff libraries and stuff...
BMUBMD was written "pretty far into the album" -- that doesn't bode well for accusations of plagiarism, unfortunately.
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Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.
Quote from: theseoafs on December 17, 2011, 06:02:32 PMBMUBMD was written "pretty far into the album" -- that doesn't bode well for accusations of plagiarism, unfortunately.Eh, JP was likely inspired by Red. The timeline adds up and he ranked the album #1 this year. But it's just a similar riff. Like I said earlier, art influences art influences art. Artists, whether musicians or filmakers or painters, all have influences and they are constantly bringing bits of those influences into their own art. If anything, I think people are surprised that JP has so much inspiration from a Christian rock band that's less popular than DT, instead of being influenced by a band that ranks above DT in terms of popularity.If you ask me, the riff similarlity between Adrenaline Mob's "Psychosane" and "Lie" is on the same level as the riff similarity"BMU BMD" and "Feed the Machine." Maybe Mike Orlando takes inspiration from Petrucci?
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Quote from: Mebert78 on December 17, 2011, 06:41:55 PMQuote from: theseoafs on December 17, 2011, 06:02:32 PMBMUBMD was written "pretty far into the album" -- that doesn't bode well for accusations of plagiarism, unfortunately.Eh, JP was likely inspired by Red. The timeline adds up and he ranked the album #1 this year. But it's just a similar riff. Like I said earlier, art influences art influences art. Artists, whether musicians or filmakers or painters, all have influences and they are constantly bringing bits of those influences into their own art. If anything, I think people are surprised that JP has so much inspiration from a Christian rock band that's less popular than DT, instead of being influenced by a band that ranks above DT in terms of popularity.If you ask me, the riff similarlity between Adrenaline Mob's "Psychosane" and "Lie" is on the same level as the riff similarity"BMU BMD" and "Feed the Machine." Maybe Mike Orlando takes inspiration from Petrucci?Such a good point which everyone overlooks.
If anyone in this thread judge him; heyy James WTF? about you in Awake In Japan? Then I will say; WTF about you silly?