Titanic

[Cool Chris]

Oh great, he is not only a douchebag but an internet meme as well.

[Implode]

A douchebag? Have you ever heard the guy speak? He's the Carl Sagan of our time.

[hefdaddy42]

A douchebag? Have you ever heard the guy speak? He's the Carl Sagan of our time.

Look, I've seen the guy on TV.  He is definitely well-spoken, highly intelligent, and a captivating speaker.  I like him.

But there is no way in the known universe that he is "cooler" than James Cameron.  Cameron is responsible for Terminator 1 & 2, and goes to the bottom of the ocean floor.  He is at a level of "cool" heretofore unseen by Tyson.

[Chino]

Oh great, he is not only a douchebag but an internet meme as well.

How dare you 

[Implode]

A douchebag? Have you ever heard the guy speak? He's the Carl Sagan of our time.

Look, I've seen the guy on TV.  He is definitely well-spoken, highly intelligent, and a captivating speaker.  I like him.

But there is no way in the known universe that he is "cooler" than James Cameron.  Cameron is responsible for Terminator 1 & 2, and goes to the bottom of the ocean floor.  He is at a level of "cool" heretofore unseen by Tyson.

I disagree, but respect your argument.

[WDADU]

I just got back from seeing it a little while ago and I was, of course floored by it. Incredible, of course. I wrote a personal piece about it as soon as I got home. If anybody cares to read it, I can paste it on here.

[El Barto]

A douchebag? Have you ever heard the guy speak? He's the Carl Sagan of our time.

Look, I've seen the guy on TV.  He is definitely well-spoken, highly intelligent, and a captivating speaker.  I like him.

But there is no way in the known universe that he is "cooler" than James Cameron.  Cameron is responsible for Terminator 1 & 2, and goes to the bottom of the ocean floor.  He is at a level of "cool" heretofore unseen by Tyson.

True Lies, The Abyss.  The guy's a genuine badass.  Anybody who doubts that needs to watch the making of The Abyss.  One of the most difficult shoos in the history of cinema. 

As for Titanic, don't know if it's been done,but there needs to be a fan edit that removes the entire Jack/Rose love story (leaving KW's tits in, of course), and makes the entire movie a 50 minute testimony to one spectacular event.  I'd really like to see the shipwreck part of it again, but can't possibly stomach rewatching the extraneous love story.

[JRundquist]

Even in 3D, they still hit the damn iceberg.

[WDADU]

Yes, they did. And it was fucking glorious.

[AcidLameLTE]

[BlobVanDam]

I give up. There is no hope.

[Zydar]

 

[Lynxo]

I give up. There is no hope.

Don't give up, Blob! You still have Kate Winslet's boobs! In 3D!

[AcidLameLTE]

SUPER 3D:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJxj1mou03M&feature=youtu.be

[BlobVanDam]

I give up. There is no hope.

Don't give up, Blob! You still have Kate Winslet's boobs! In 3D!

Yeah, but then I saw what they looked like a decade later.

There is no hope.

[Chino]

Titanic this go around was extremely enjoyable. By far, the best use of 3D I have seen to date... Even better than Avatar. It wasn't gimmicky or in your face kind of 3D, but more like exactly how you view real life. It was outstanding.

[ReaperKK]

SUPER 3D:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJxj1mou03M&feature=youtu.be

holy shit that was great, I love the Michael Bay stuff.

[Chino]

SUPER 3D:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJxj1mou03M&feature=youtu.be

holy shit that was great, I love the Michael Bay stuff.

I fell on the floor when the plates exploded.

[Shadow2222]

I am excited! Going to see it this weekend! 

[Chino]

I was very surprised to see that Titanic came in third at the box office last weekend. I thought for sure it would have been at least number two.

[bosk1]

I thought for sure it would have been at least number two.

Having seen it, I can definitely vouch for the fact that it is indeed number two.

[tofee35]

SUPER 3D:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJxj1mou03M&feature=youtu.be

holy shit that was great, I love the Michael Bay stuff.

I fell on the floor when the plates exploded.

My iced coffee went through my nose and eye sockets a bit at that moment. Hilarious

[MetalJunkie]

I thought for sure it would have been at least number two.

Having seen it, I can definitely vouch for the fact that it is indeed number two.

[lucky7]

I think it is a great movie.....and after the cost to make it and James Cameron to go on those expeditions I am not suprised they are making a grab for more money.
I won't go and see the 3D version but I am watching the 100 years on documentaries this week as well as the new series that starts in Australia next week.
People have always had a love affair with this movie and anything associated with the ship......I still cry at the end whenever I see it. 

[MasterShakezula]

It's one of those sorta films that don't appeal to me, so I'm content to not watch it...

Unless it means getting some.

[WDADU]

I am probably going to go see it again on either the fourteenth or the fifteenth for the second time to commemorate the one-hundredth anniversary of the sinking that, yes, really did happen.

People fuckin' baffle me.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Just a random fact I stumbled upon. I love to hear stories like this and I thought it was interesting to share.

Wallace Hartley was the band leader for the orchestra aboard the Titanic. When the boat sank they famously played until the end comforting the passengers, none of the band members survived the sinking. What I didn't know is that they recovered Wallace body two weeks after. Several press reports confirmed that Wallace was found "fully dressed with his music case strapped to his body". 

There have been various theories about what happened to the instrument which range from it floating away to being stolen by someone involved in handling the bodies of the deceased.

A violin was returned to Wallace Hartley's fiancee Maria Robinson, in Bridlington in East Yorkshire, and a transcript of a telegram dated 19 July 1912 to Canada's Provincial Secretary of Nova Scotia was found in her diary.

It said: "I would be most grateful if you could convey my heartfelt thanks to all who have made possible the return of my late fiance's violin."

Craig Sopin, 55, who lives in Philadelphia, US, and owns one of the world's largest collections of Titanic memorabilia, said: "Popular belief is that the violin was lost or ferreted away but sometimes miracles happen and it has here.

"As far as Titanic memorabilia is concerned it is the most important piece that has ever come up and that includes artefacts recovered from the seabed such as the crow's nest bell."



Auctioneer Andrew Aldridge said they had spent the last seven years gathering the evidence and were confident that "beyond reasonable doubt this was Wallace Hartley's violin".

"Everything needed to be researched properly and the correct experts had to be commissioned."

The tests were carried out by a range of specialists including the government Forensic Science Service which concluded the "corrosion deposits on it were considered compatible with immersion in sea water".

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-wiltshire-21806334

[Chino]

It sold for $1.78M at auction!

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-titanic-violin-auction-20131021-story.html

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

I wonder who has the Violin, quite the background story to tell when you show it to people.

Found some interesting facts about the working conditions for the musicians, which were rough even for that time period.

Whatever (music) they played (that night), they achieved immortality.  The bravery of these men, trying to bring hope and comfort to others without a thought to their own safety, captured the public’s imagination allover the world.  Editorials, speeches, sermons, and reams of worshipful poetry celebrated the deed, and letters of condolence poured into the homes of the bereaved. Tucked in with the tributes received by the family of violinist Jock Hume, was a letter to his father that sounded a strangely jarring note.
Dated April 30, 1912 – just two weeks after the tragedy – it contained no words of sympathy, just a short, crisp reminder:

Dear Sir:
We shall be obliged if you will remit to us the sum of 5s. 4d., which is owning to us as per enclosed statement. We shall also be obliged if you will settle the enclosed uniform account.
Yours faithfully,

C.W. & F. N. Black

What a couple of douches those people were. They wanted payment for the uniforms the musicians rented on the Titanic two weeks after the incident.

C. W. and F. N. Black, who so diligently pursued their $3.50, were Jock Hume’s agents, and any entertainer or writer today who complains about his agent would do well to ponder the situation in 1912.  He might find things are not so bad after all.

Until 1912 the various steamship lines dealt directly with their musicians, signing them up as members of the crew like stewards, firemen, and ordinary seamen.  The pay was union scale, which worked out at £6 10s. a month, plus a monthly uniform allowance of 10s.

Then the Blacks entered the picture.  An enterprising talent agency based in Liverpool, they promised the steamship companies a simpler and cheaper way to good music.  One after another the companies signed contracts, giving the Blacks the exclusive right to supply bands to their vessels.  The musicians still signed the ship’s articles for a token shilling a month (putting them clearly under the captain’s authority), but they were now really working for the Blacks, and could get no jobs except through the Blacks.

Since the musicians worked for the Blacks or not at all, they had to take what the Blacks were willing to pay them-which turned out to be a sharp cut in salary.  Instead of a basic pay of £6 10s., they now got only £4. Instead of a uniform allowance of 10s. a month, they now got nothing at all.  The terms of employment were also hard: if the steamship company objected to any musician, the Blacks had the right to remove the man without any investigation or explanation.

The masquerade continued when the Titanic sailed. She, of course, had not only the standard five-man band, but the special trio added for the Cafe Parisien.  Hence there were now eight extra names on the Second Class passenger list.  Otherwise nothing had changed: the musicians still had the same cramped quarters on E Deck (next to the potato washer), and certainly none of the “perks” of passengers.  When they played that last night, they played as disciplined members of the ship’s crew, not as a group of talented passenger-volunteers.

It was natural, then, for the musicians’ families to turn first to the White Star Line for financial benefits under the Workmen’s Compensation Act.  Sorry, said White Star, the bandsmen were Second Class passengers and not covered by the Act.  The Line suggested that the families contact C. W. and F. N. Black, the real employers.

Sorry, said the Blacks. The problem wasn’t their responsibility.  They carried insurance to cover such matters, and any claims should be laid at the insurer’s door. Sorry, said the insurance company, the bandsmen were not workmen as covered by the policy.  They were independent contractors, using the Blacks as a booking agency, and the insurance company was under no liability.

Months passed while White Star, the Blacks, and the insurer tossed this hot potato back and forth.  Finally, in exasperation the families took the Blacks to court.  The judge was sympathetic, but that was all.  The bandsmen, he decided, were not the employees of anybody.  They were passengers in the case of the White Star Line, and independent contractors in the case of the Blacks and the insurers

With the legalities settled, the musicians’ union made a final appeal to White Star’s sense of moral responsibility: “Three families lost their only sons – three young men ranging from 21 to 24 years of age, cut off in the prime of their life while performing an act of heroism that stirred the whole world to its depths.  Surely there is something for the White Star Company to consider over and above the mere terms of an Act of Parliament.”  It did no good.

In the end, the day was saved by the “Titanic Relief Fund,” an umbrella organization that was set up to manage the charitable contributions that poured in from all over the world.  On January 2, 1913 the Fund announced that it would treat the musicians as though they were members of the crew.  This opened the door at last to adequate benefits.  Welcome news, but no thanks to the White Star Line.  To the end it maintained, as far as I can determine, that the musicians were no more than Second Class passengers.

While this shabby little business was unfolding behind the scenes, front-stage the drama of the band’s heroism continued.  On May 18 there occurred one of those great public funerals, dripping with melancholy pageantry, that the Victorians and Edwardians did so well.  Bandmaster Wallace Hartley’s body had been retrieved from the ice-strewn waters off Newfoundland, and now he was coming home to his final rest.



https://www.tapsbugler.com/the-titanic-musicians/

[MetalJunkie]

Man. 26-year-old me was an edgy, opinionated asshole.

Re-releases are fine. I like Titanic. James Cameron is the shit. Carry on.