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Offline FretMuppet

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A Little Question About Rhythms...
« on: November 20, 2011, 07:31:58 AM »
So I've been getting into music much more over the last year, its been rising exponentially and over time I began understanding what's going on behind the scenes and what the instruments are doing in songs.
I've noticed that a lot of drummers (Gavin Harrison especially) occasionally do this cool little fill that almost sounds like they're slowing down the pace of the music. Say if the time sig is 4/4, they do a little fill with 3 notes that don't seem to fit the 4 even steps of the bar. I'm not an expert in music, but I think its simply a triplet done quite slowly which gives the music this cool effect. I heard it done a bit more complex in some songs, and I'd like to know the actual mathematics behind this to see if I'm not making up rubbish  :lol Anyone have an explanation?  :P

Here's a few examples of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7uMYGhtBuA Porcupine Tree - Fadeaway at 0:23

Dream Theater - Another Won at 0:17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f_dv0dd9Pg Trivium - In Waves at 0:22

Dream Theater - Outcry at 7:54

Feel free to send me some crazier examples too  :biggrin:
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Re: A Little Question About Rhythms...
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2011, 07:37:04 AM »
I don't know the name of it...but I am posting to say that you may want to take down the ANother Won video. That's an official release. hef is always watching

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Re: A Little Question About Rhythms...
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2011, 07:58:32 AM »
I don't know the name of it...but I am posting to say that you may want to take down the ANother Won video. That's an official release. hef is always watching

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Re: A Little Question About Rhythms...
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2011, 05:12:46 PM »
That trivium song was 8th note triplets definitely.

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Re: A Little Question About Rhythms...
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 12:45:42 AM »
Ah so I guess it has all to do with polyrhythms, I quite like this now

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Re: A Little Question About Rhythms...
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 03:41:30 AM »
Totally not polyrhythms, just triplets. Instead of eight note triplets (3:2), quarter note triplets (3:4), as far as I can tell.
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Re: A Little Question About Rhythms...
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 03:42:49 AM »
That trivium song was 8th note triplets definitely.

Or yeah, sound like 8th note triplets instead of 16 note ones actually. Instead of putting in another eight note in the space of two, they take out one in the space of 4, to say it the easy way.
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