The official Frontiers Softcock Shit thread

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wolfking

Quote from: Lowdz on December 21, 2022, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 19, 2022, 11:41:45 AM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol

Just dropped in to say Fuck me that was bad. :lol :lol :lol


jingle.boy

Quote from: Lowdz on December 21, 2022, 03:51:36 PM
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 19, 2022, 11:41:45 AM
disregarding the cheesiness of the vid, I had a go at this album today.  Very solid.  Like, as good as the stuff Frontiers used to pump out 8-10 years ago.  Landfall / Two Strangers ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQfO0y-yU6Y

Tim hates it.
Wolf hates it to - but he hates all music lately.   :lol

Just dropped in to say Fuck me that was bad. :lol :lol :lol

I had to do something to bring you out of hiding!
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Lowdz


wolfking


jingle.boy

Quote from: wolfking on January 12, 2023, 03:17:11 AM
https://youtu.be/8MYrQPpwx2k

Pretty much Vanden Plas, but pretty damn good.

Nice.  I saw this announced a few weeks back, and have been patiently awaiting it.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

bl5150


MinistroRaven


jingle.boy

Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Glasser

Quote from: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 09:16:10 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers are tired.

Lowdz

Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 09:16:10 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

Glasser

Quote from: Lowdz on January 27, 2023, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 09:16:10 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

That is exactly the truth. I know they hired more writers but they should just sign more bands that actually write their own tunes.

ProfessorPeart

Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 27, 2023, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 09:16:10 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

That is exactly the truth. I know they hired more writers but they should just sign more bands that actually write their own tunes.

They've proved they can do it. They thankfully leave Phantom Elite alone.
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on November 14, 2023, 11:17:53 AMbeul ni teh efac = Lube In The Face / That has to be wrong.  :lol / EDIT: Oh, it's Blue! I'm an idiot.
Quote from: Indiscipline on November 14, 2023, 02:26:25 PMPardon the interruption, but I just had to run in and celebrate the majesty of Lube in the Face as highest moment in roulette history.

Glasser

Quote from: ProfessorPeart on January 27, 2023, 12:01:05 PM
Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 27, 2023, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 09:16:10 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

That is exactly the truth. I know they hired more writers but they should just sign more bands that actually write their own tunes.

They've proved they can do it. They thankfully leave Phantom Elite alone.

Oh I know they do, Phantom Elite are one of their best bands for sure. I think the "Serafino projects" are just played out.

jingle.boy

I'd say 3 out of every 10 releases is decent, and then 50% of those are worthy of repeat listens.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

wolfking

Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 09:16:10 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers are tired.

They've been a mess for over 10 years now mate I'd say. 

I'd love to have some time to actually go back through their catalog and see where it actually started going wrong.  Del Vecchio is more than likely the culprit though.

wolfking

While we are here, how fucking shit is this?

https://youtu.be/9yCIB5O1kec

Solo is completely fucked too.

jingle.boy

You know me, I like Romero's voice, but I couldn't be stuffed at all with this album.  Absolutely nothing about it appeals to me.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

DoctorAction

Quote from: wolfking on January 28, 2023, 03:13:36 AM
While we are here, how fucking shit is this?

https://youtu.be/9yCIB5O1kec

Solo is completely fucked too.

Prime Z-list action right there. 😂

I felt they could have pushed the hot woman on a motorbike angle a bit harder, if I'm honest.



wolfking

https://youtu.be/FIQnu29VqnE

Magnus, what are you doing?  This song is fucking shit and this singer is fucking terrible!

jingle.boy

Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Deathless

Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

wolfking

Another Magnus one.

https://youtu.be/9frckePrw4A

This is a bit more like it.  A bit over the top and poppy but this dude has a good voice.

wolfking

Quote from: Deathless on February 03, 2023, 06:13:50 AM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

I don't know why I'd think this but I wouldn't be surprised if the record companies get the bands to sign a contract and the band just gets cut a pay check and any streaming royalties goes to the label?

Bigger bands like Primal Fear probably a bit different but I'm sure the contracts differ from artist to artist. 

I could be talking out my ass too though.

jingle.boy

Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2023, 03:55:28 AM
Another Magnus one.

https://youtu.be/9frckePrw4A

This is a bit more like it.  A bit over the top and poppy but this dude has a good voice.

I grabbed that dude's solo release from 2021 ... was one of my favorite albums of the year.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

ProfessorPeart

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 24, 2023, 04:08:42 AM
Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2023, 03:55:28 AM
Another Magnus one.

https://youtu.be/9frckePrw4A

This is a bit more like it.  A bit over the top and poppy but this dude has a good voice.

I grabbed that dude's solo release from 2021 ... was one of my favorite albums of the year.

Interesting. I found this when looking into it:

It is now James' turn to shine completely with his debut solo record, which was written and produced for him by Frontiers' production guru Alessandro Del Vecchio.

I'll try to check it out.
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on November 14, 2023, 11:17:53 AMbeul ni teh efac = Lube In The Face / That has to be wrong.  :lol / EDIT: Oh, it's Blue! I'm an idiot.
Quote from: Indiscipline on November 14, 2023, 02:26:25 PMPardon the interruption, but I just had to run in and celebrate the majesty of Lube in the Face as highest moment in roulette history.

jingle.boy

Every so often, ADV puts out something ... solid.  Only 90% of the stuff he/Frontiers does is utter shyte.  They definitely churn out the quantity - it just takes some effort and patience to find the quality ones.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Lowdz

Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2023, 03:58:33 AM
Quote from: Deathless on February 03, 2023, 06:13:50 AM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

I don't know why I'd think this but I wouldn't be surprised if the record companies get the bands to sign a contract and the band just gets cut a pay check and any streaming royalties goes to the label?

Bigger bands like Primal Fear probably a bit different but I'm sure the contracts differ from artist to artist. 

I could be talking out my ass too though.

Maybe it's a Mafia money laundering scheme 😀😀

Glasser

Quote from: Lowdz on February 24, 2023, 12:55:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2023, 03:58:33 AM
Quote from: Deathless on February 03, 2023, 06:13:50 AM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

I don't know why I'd think this but I wouldn't be surprised if the record companies get the bands to sign a contract and the band just gets cut a pay check and any streaming royalties goes to the label?

Bigger bands like Primal Fear probably a bit different but I'm sure the contracts differ from artist to artist. 

I could be talking out my ass too though.

Maybe it's a Mafia money laundering scheme 😀😀

I have heard things from VERY reliable sources about that being a strong possibility which makes me think you know something as well. I am in no way confirming this or accusing them, its just eye opening to see this.

bl5150

#6818
Quote from: Glasser on February 24, 2023, 01:15:31 PM
Quote from: Lowdz on February 24, 2023, 12:55:25 PM
Quote from: wolfking on February 24, 2023, 03:58:33 AM
Quote from: Deathless on February 03, 2023, 06:13:50 AM
Something I don't understand about Frontiers is when people (blabbermouth) say it's a "paycheck" for a lot of these artists. I get it for Del Vecchio and guys like Magnus who are basically employed by them or kept on retainer. But for a lot of artists they don't sell any physical albums and only rack up what, a few thousand streams? Where is the worth lol?

I don't know why I'd think this but I wouldn't be surprised if the record companies get the bands to sign a contract and the band just gets cut a pay check and any streaming royalties goes to the label?

Bigger bands like Primal Fear probably a bit different but I'm sure the contracts differ from artist to artist. 

I could be talking out my ass too though.

Maybe it’s a Mafia money laundering scheme

I have heard things from VERY reliable sources about that being a strong possibility which makes me think you know something as well. I am in no way confirming this or accusing them, its just eye opening to see this.




From an old post of mine  :lol

Quote from: bl5150 on February 23, 2022, 05:48:18 AM

Dino (Jelusic) has some balls - those Frontiers guys just keep on coming if you get on their bad side.  I have wondered from time to time if their business model is just so amazing in a pretty dead genre or whether perhaps profits are secondary and it might be operating as a "laundry" for some other "legit" family businesses .   ;D


Funnily enough on the anniversary of this post Dino just released a new song dedicated to Frontiers called Reign Of Vultures

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6qIVDza6lA

Glasser

Quote from: ProfessorPeart on January 27, 2023, 12:01:05 PM
Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: Lowdz on January 27, 2023, 11:43:37 AM
Quote from: Glasser on January 27, 2023, 10:53:04 AM
Quote from: jingle.boy on January 27, 2023, 09:16:10 AM
Hey Kade!  New Issa today too!  :lol :lol

Her first, maybe second album were decent now its cookie cutter bullshit. Frontiers Del Vechio is tired.

Fixed it for you  ;D

That is exactly the truth. I know they hired more writers but they should just sign more bands that actually write their own tunes.

They've proved they can do it. They thankfully leave Phantom Elite alone.

Got a chance to hear this today!

Deathless


bl5150

This thread has been absent for a while .

You like Vega Kade..................new one :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfmJrQsFtu4


Pretty standard stuff and I don't follow them much , but to me it seems perhaps they're a bit more straight forward/upbeat since the Martin brothers left?

Anyway............props to the lead guitarist for playing the ESP LTD Deluxe Koa guitar (one of my faves) - they rock  :metal    He looks like has been studying Neal Schon in terms of his moves.

wolfking

Quote from: bl5150 on June 14, 2023, 05:12:02 AM
This thread has been absent for a while .

You like Vega Kade..................new one :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfmJrQsFtu4


Pretty standard stuff and I don't follow them much , but to me it seems perhaps they're a bit more straight forward/upbeat since the Martin brothers left?

Anyway............props to the lead guitarist for playing the ESP LTD Deluxe Koa guitar (one of my faves) - they rock  :metal    He looks like has been studying Neal Schon in terms of his moves.

I watched this last night.  I fucking love this band.  They are such a guilty pleasure of mine and I'm stunned they are back with a new one already.  Saying that, the last one didn't quite grab me but I'll have to revisit.  Pretty sure this will be the first one without the Martin boys though.....I could be wrong.

It's a great song but the chorus is a blatant rip off of Hardline's Fever Dreams lol.

wolfking

So, as many know I'm probably Magnus Karlsson's biggest whipping boy on here which I'm not ashamed of.  Although, he's done so many albums one could forgive him for a slight drop in quality.  We have seen that with the likes of Allen/Lande, that Heart Healer crap and even his Freefall project.  I will say last years Ginevra album was pretty enjoyable and the last Ferryman album was really excellent so he's still got it.  Nothing comes close to the Battle but nothing will.

Saying all that, I'm absolutely loving the latest Freefall album.  I wasn't sold on the first single or two but on a whole, this album is fucking brilliant.  There's old school Last Tribe feels going on a lot and overall the songwriting is just interesting, fresh and while following his usual formula, it's still really catchy and getting lots of repeats from me with enough variety to stay interested.  In a time where I really don't buy CD's anymore, might have to hunt this one down.  It also gets better as the album goes on too.  The closer is one of the best songs he's done in a long long time.  I'd even say this may be the best thing since the first Freefall album or the third Allen/Lande album.  He's put a bit of effort into his solos too on this one which were getting pretty samey and you could tell lately he was just pulling out one or two take solos on a whim.

Zook

Heart Heeler is pretty good. The only thing I don't like about the album is the overuse of a certain melody (vocal phrasing), which being a concept album could be on purpose, but just sounds repetitive and uncreative.