Anathema

[emtee]

There are going to be thousands, heck, maybe hundreds of thousands of musicians who will be facing this reality. And, sadly, most of them have no plan B or training of any other kind. Tough times. They made a ton of very moving music. The video where the fans start singing and Vincent starts to cry, makes me eyes well up every time.

[LCArenas]

Anathema have gone on indefinite hiatus.

https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10158682760833629/

-Marc.

This is fucking heartbreaking. What a sad day. I hope that they'll eventually come back stronger, someday.

[Sacul]

I'm so glad I managed to see them live on the last tour, it was an amazing gig. As one of my very favorite bands this breaks me 

[Elite]

DAMNIT FUCK

[Nel]

I spent last year and earlier this year getting into them and getting their whole studio discography, and then this happens. It's my experience with Porcupine Tree in 2010 all over again.

[FlyingBIZKIT]

Listening to Back to the Start. Wish that “song“ was longer. That climax is wonderful.

[pfillion]

Terrible news

[Nachtmerrie]

I´m not very familiar with Anathema´s discography but I was really looking forward to seeing them this earlier this year until the festival got cancelled.

Fucking lockdowns and travel restrictions are killing an entire industry. There is zero perspective when concerts or festivals will be allowed again. Livestreams may offer an alternative from a business point of view but these bands all started at some point because they love to share their music in a real environment with real people.

I´m afraid more bands will follow and a lot of people in this industry will suffer both financially and mentally with autumn and winter arriving soon in Europe and the US. I was hoping to be able to see some liveshows early next year but the way things are developing I´m really afraid 2021 will be another lost year for musicians and their fans. Let´s hope things change the other way around soon.

[?]

Was obviously bummed out by the news, but the fact that they deleted their official Twitter, there appears to be a clearance sale going on in their Omerch store, and Duncan Patterson stated that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story. They also signed a record deal last year, so perhaps not coming out and saying the band is finished is a way to avoid getting in legal trouble.

[DoctorAction]

Yeah, I think there's some other thing we haven't heard about yet. I have nothing but hunch but over time I've got the feeling that a certain member of the band must be quite a challenging person to be around. Again, pure guess, but a big falling out?

Back in May, Vince had posted videos about how the new album was going, chatting about stuff. It's a big turnaround. The message was so cryptic, I thought.

[IDontNotDoThings]

...and Duncan Patterson stated that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....

To be fair, Duncan Patterson hasn't been in the band since Alternative 4, so I don't know if him not wanting to come back really signifies much.

[ariich]

...and Duncan Patterson stated that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....

To be fair, Duncan Patterson hasn't been in the band since Alternative 4, so I don't know if him not wanting to come back really signifies much.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Not sure that has anything to do with anything, and the Clearance sale is likely an attempt to try and raise some revenue sooner rather than later. I agree that deleting their Twitter is pretty odd, but they haven't deleted their Facebook page so they haven't abandoned their social media presence.

[?]

...and Duncan Patterson stated that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....

To be fair, Duncan Patterson hasn't been in the band since Alternative 4, so I don't know if him not wanting to come back really signifies much.

My bad, should've specified that it was about live shows - he did the Acoustic Resonance tour with Danny and Vincent in Latin America just last year and even in February this year, he was talking about what a great experience it was: https://www.facebook.com/notes/anathema-colombia/grace-road-duncan-patterson-interview-2020/2656595384388619/

[MoraWintersoul]

Back in May, Vince had posted videos about how the new album was going, chatting about stuff. It's a big turnaround. The message was so cryptic, I thought.

Yeah, someone must have fucked up big time to make them go from there to where we are now.

[Zantera]

Didn't they have a lot of money invested in a tour that didn't happen due to Covid? I thought that possibly hit the band quite hard. Then again I'm sure there could have been another solution than just break up the band if that was the only reason.

[goo-goo]

Didn't they have a lot of money invested in a tour that didn't happen due to Covid? I thought that possibly hit the band quite hard. Then again I'm sure there could have been another solution than just break up the band if that was the only reason.

They did lose a lot of money at the beginning of the tour since transportation, merch, and lights/sounds are most likely paid upfront. Plus probably some of the wages of the tour manager and roadies. It was very devastating for them to cancel the tour since they played maybe 5 shows before pulling the plug. I do think there's more to the financial aspect on why the band got disbanded.

[SoundscapeMN]

bump.

https://www.facebook.com/anathemamusic/posts/10159218377598629

Hello all.
There will be an upcoming solo album from Daniel Cavanagh coming soon called “Cellar Door”. The album is written and recording will begin as soon as is convenient.
Many blessings and wishing you all much happiness.

[DoctorAction]

I wonder if this is the material he'd written for the Anathema record. If he can make it as a solo album you'd think he could get Vince to sing on it too? Bah. I wish they had said more about the split. So frustrating.

I've only tried his last album a couple times but it didn't stick. Just seemed like Anathema without that magic spark to me. I've not got super high hopes for this, tbh, but am curious.

[Nel]

It's hard not to think it's the scrapped music considering the album cover is using the font and placement style The Optimist had. The cover art almost screams "sequel" to me.

[Zantera]

It's a shame with everything going on behind the scenes considering Daniel seems to be at the forefront of the drama that killed the band. Him being the one to put out this album looks a bit ugly all things considered, and I will imagine there will be a lot of backlash to this no matter if it's good or bad.

[DoctorAction]

Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.

TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.

[Zantera]

Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.

TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.

There's a lot of buzz about Daniel and reported toxic behavior behind the scenes towards fans with some stories going around. Rumors about worse interactions with female fans and a lot of people saying he's in a dire situation with lawyers involved and such.

It's hard to know what's truth and what's not but the fact he's been selling off guitars and keyboards to earn quick money doesn't really look too good.

It's a shame because I still love the band and knowing we probably won't ever get anymore is a big sadness. 

[DoctorAction]

Oh. That's troubling.

I feel the same. Damn shame.

[Phoenix87x]

Wow, I had no idea.

But something like that makes it make more sense that the band imploded. Sucks none the less

[pfillion]

New Danny Cavanagh song

https://youtu.be/MxbSnR4EXdY

[IDontNotDoThings]

Damn, that was fast.

Personally, this didn't do much for me, but it may make more sense in context. Also, I can't help but note the similarities to Are You There from Anathema's Natural Disaster.

[twosuitsluke]

I know this not new information but holy fuck Untouchable Parts 1&2 are just so perfect!

[T-ski]

Every time this thread is bumped and there is no news of them getting back together I get more sad.

[nick_z]

I know this not new information but holy fuck Untouchable Parts 1&2 are just so perfect!

I'm overall more of a fan of the Eternity-Alternative 4-Judgement period (I find the happy/positive energy vibe of We're here... and Weather Systems a tad overdone at times - although I do really like the albums). That said, I'd have to agree, Untouchable Parts 1&2 are so, so good.   

[twosuitsluke]

Every time this thread is bumped and there is no news of them getting back together I get more sad.

Sorry to keep breaking your heart

But anyway, just listening to Alternative 4 and they do a Bad Religion cover at the end. Can't say I expected that, when do bands like Anathema ever cover punk rock bands?? Respect

[DoctorAction]

I know this not new information but holy fuck Untouchable Parts 1&2 are just so perfect!

So much yes. Some of the most perfect recorded music I ever heard. 

[Buddyhunter1]

Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.

TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.

There's a lot of buzz about Daniel and reported toxic behavior behind the scenes towards fans with some stories going around. Rumors about worse interactions with female fans and a lot of people saying he's in a dire situation with lawyers involved and such.

It's hard to know what's truth and what's not but the fact he's been selling off guitars and keyboards to earn quick money doesn't really look too good.

Have there been any updates on this? I keep seeing those listings for guitars / keyboards (sometimes discounted) which lines up with what you're saying here, but this is the only time I've heard about it.

[Nel]

In addition to the listings, I keep seeing updates for a new album under the Weather Systems name. It's funny because the band name is the same font as the Anathema name's been, and the album title is in the same lowercase italics as the other album titles, so... it just looks like a slightly off Anathema record. 

[Zantera]

Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.

TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.

There's a lot of buzz about Daniel and reported toxic behavior behind the scenes towards fans with some stories going around. Rumors about worse interactions with female fans and a lot of people saying he's in a dire situation with lawyers involved and such.

It's hard to know what's truth and what's not but the fact he's been selling off guitars and keyboards to earn quick money doesn't really look too good.

Have there been any updates on this? I keep seeing those listings for guitars / keyboards (sometimes discounted) which lines up with what you're saying here, but this is the only time I've heard about it.

I've been very curious about it as well because I loved this band and the sudden break up without much of a reason followed by him selling all his gear just felt very suspicious. You try to search about "why did anathema break up" and you find speculation ranging from "Covid hit them hard" to accusations of Daniel touching kids. I hope it's not as bad as the worst accusations suggest but I also think the idea that all the selling of equipment is in order to finance legal fees also makes sense.

It's weird because Daniel seems to be working on that new Weather Systems project and there seems to be, at least from his side a genuine attempt at carrying on the legacy and even reaching out a hand to the other members to get them involved. (Something about the announcement of this project included a line about possibly involving more of the Anathema family moving forward) So the fact he's also selling off his equipment and there's a big radio silence, as well as seemingly a growing distance between him and any of the other members is weird.

I do hope it's not unfixable but I would imagine if there's an ongoing court case or something to that effect we probably won't hear much until it's resolved. I would have imagined if this was just a regular split that someone would have spoken out by now to clarify things.

[DoctorAction]

I feel you. I still feel hacked off about the lack of detail re the split.