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Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« on: September 30, 2011, 12:48:22 AM »
https://news.yahoo.com/video/dallascbs11-15750646/for-god-so-loved-the-world-for-a-19-99-oil-change-26774103.html

I don't know how I feel about this. He isn't forcing anyone to take the discount, but it's clearly favoritism for those who share his beliefs, and the cynical part of me sees this as a cheap way to push a religious agenda. What do you guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2011, 12:57:41 AM »
It's his business, his call.

In my opinion, this is about as insignificant as a news story could possibly get.

Not really trying to insult the idea behind this thread, though; I've seen this story floating around for the past 12 hours or so.

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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2011, 01:36:49 AM »
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Re: Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2011, 05:45:38 AM »
I'd quote Ezekiel 4:12 lol

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2011, 06:38:37 AM »
I'll quote Ezekiel 25:17.  Then I'd pay him out of my bad motherfucker.
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Re: Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2011, 08:22:31 AM »
There's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

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Re: Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2011, 09:03:06 AM »
I don't know how I feel about this. He isn't forcing anyone to take the discount, but it's clearly favoritism for those who share his beliefs, and the cynical part of me sees this as a cheap way to push a religious agenda. What do you guys think?

Now sure what the big deal is.  I have much more of a problem with how the news story was presented, in terms of "let's get a poor ethnic minority immigrant who doesn't share the store owner's believes and got charged double and portray him as the victim, and let's make sure to do that as the lead part of the story so that we have that set up before we even attempt to present the other side."  That, to me, just again points out how sad the news media as a whole has become.  Bias, bias, bias.

If the guys wants to offer a discount for doing that, more power to him.  And, yes, I would still feel that way if he were an atheist who was pushing atheist propaganda, someone of a different religion pushing their beliefs, etc.  If you disagree with how he is running his business, simply take your money and give it to someone else. 
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2011, 09:16:05 AM »
How is this any different from an annoying radio commercial where they say something like "Mention KABC 101.7 when you place your order for a 10% discount!"? I see nothing wrong with it.

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Re: Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2011, 09:49:37 AM »
How is this any different from an annoying radio commercial where they say something like "Mention KABC 101.7 when you place your order for a 10% discount!"? I see nothing wrong with it.
This.  He can run his business how he wants.  No problem.
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Re: Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2011, 09:57:28 AM »
He already got what he wanted...publicity, and it didn't cost him a dime.  He'll get more customers than he'll lose or potentially lose.

Smart business move from my POV.
     

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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2011, 09:58:31 AM »
Yeah, can't say I care at all about something like this.

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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2011, 10:05:57 AM »
Yeah,  from my perspective I'd just rattle off some charming verse about raping virgins and take my discount.  Wouldn't bother me any.  However I can certainly understand how a non-Bible believing religious person would have a problem with it, but then there are plenty of other places that'll do the same job for $19.99, so I don't see an issue. 
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Re: Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2011, 10:15:04 AM »
When he starts blaming your head gasket problems on your unfaithfulness to God and refuses to help you for fear of retribution from God, then there is a problem.

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2011, 12:25:56 PM »
It strikes me as a weaker form of establishment, so I can *sorta* see where people might have a problem.  I mean hey, it's not like a Jewish businessperson will ask you to recite the items on the Seder plate for a discount or something, even if it's a Judaica store.
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Re: Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2011, 12:31:12 PM »
Hell...I couldn't do that.

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2011, 12:54:44 PM »
It strikes me as a weaker form of establishment, so I can *sorta* see where people might have a problem.

How?  The government isn't even remotely involved.  It's purely a private business decision.  And he even went so far as to not include the nature of the "coupon" requirement on the billboard so that you don't even have it out there to casual passers by that they are requiring a Bible verse.  It's not even remotely an establishment issue.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2011, 01:05:18 PM »
Hell...I couldn't do that.

Hmm let's see:

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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2011, 01:11:33 PM »
It strikes me as a weaker form of establishment, so I can *sorta* see where people might have a problem.

How?  The government isn't even remotely involved.  It's purely a private business decision.  And he even went so far as to not include the nature of the "coupon" requirement on the billboard so that you don't even have it out there to casual passers by that they are requiring a Bible verse.  It's not even remotely an establishment issue.

It doesn't have to be government involved, and that's entirely the point.  Think of it as market regulation.

I don't really feel like making a big issue out of this; I'm just saying that's what I see as a potential problem.
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2011, 01:16:08 PM »
The only thing that can be said is that it is in bad tastes, he's not discriminating against anyone.

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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2011, 01:20:30 PM »
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. He's not doing anything illegal; it's just in poor taste.

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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2011, 01:23:02 PM »
It doesn't have to be government involved, and that's entirely the point. 

What?!  For it to be an establishment issue, the government absolutely does have to be involved.  The establishment clause has no bearing whatsoever on what private individuals or businesses do.  None.
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2011, 01:38:48 PM »
I'm not really sure what the point of it is, but whatever.
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2011, 03:40:51 PM »
And he even went so far as to not include the nature of the "coupon" requirement on the billboard so that you don't even have it out there to casual passers by that they are requiring a Bible verse.
Really?*  That's a different story.  If it was clear going in what the requirements were, then I'd have no sympathy for anybody who didn't like it.  If I drove down there just expecting a $20 oil change, and was told that I had to quote a Bible verse to get it, then I'd be rightfully pissed off. 

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It doesn't have to be government involved, and that's entirely the point.  Think of it as market regulation.

https://news.yahoo.com/video/dallascbs11-15750646/for-god-so-loved-the-world-for-a-19-99-oil-change-26774103.html

I don't know how I feel about this. He isn't forcing anyone to take the discount, but it's clearly favoritism for those who share his beliefs, and the cynical part of me sees this as a cheap way to push a religious agenda. What do you guys think?

Instead of fretting about the religious beliefs of a small time mechanic, just change your own oil and then go eat some bacon. Such a better way to live.


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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2011, 10:16:28 PM »
I can't, not kosher.
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Re: Quote a bible verse for a discount on your next oil change.
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2011, 07:46:47 AM »
There are hundreds of places to get an oil change.  For me, this would not be one of them.

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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2011, 07:52:40 AM »
I wonder, if I pray with him, then will I get a free tire rotation as well?

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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2011, 07:54:40 AM »
I can't say I agree with his practice, but that's his business and he has the right to do that, if he chooses to do so.


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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2011, 02:27:04 PM »
I can't say I agree with his practice, but that's his business and he has the right to do that, if he chooses to do so.

What's wrong with it, exactly?  At worst, I'd think it's harmless.

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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2011, 02:54:35 PM »
I can't say I agree with his practice, but that's his business and he has the right to do that, if he chooses to do so.

What's wrong with it, exactly?  At worst, I'd think it's harmless.

It can help foster the "if you're not with us" mentality.