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Should Mike Portnoy ever return as a permanent member

Yes, he's the man
27 (10.1%)
No, Mike Mangini is better for the band
88 (33%)
Maybe just for a reunion night or side project some day
124 (46.4%)
Not with suing the guys
28 (10.5%)

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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2011, 06:36:20 PM »
Quote from: Chico on September 18, 2011, 06:34:49 PM
Quote from: Adami on September 18, 2011, 06:29:57 PM
This isn't a free country, it's a privately run message board.

Which is in a free country so I can say whatever the fuck I want, got it boy?

Not quite true, I'm not sure you understand the concepts of private property, or in this case privately owned web domains.

If you'd like a much faster lesson, post that as the MP forums.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2011, 06:36:30 PM »
Quote from: lateralus88 on September 18, 2011, 06:34:10 PM
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:32:46 PM
Quote from: lateralus88 on September 18, 2011, 06:18:37 PM
Quote from: Chico on September 18, 2011, 06:16:31 PM
Fuck him, I hope he never comes back
Oh yeah, definitely inb4 the ban

Why are you so sensitive? He's not insulting or bashing portnoy.  The quesiton was should he return, and he said "Fuck him" i.e. forget about him don't even consider allowing him back (an opinion on what DT should do) and then "I hope he never comes back" (chico's own feelings on whether he should return)

So you had really a suggestion and then an opinion.  Calm down.
Let me answer your question with a question: Why do you care? Now breathe, and drink this. It'll calm you down.

 :millahhhh

I care because logic matters to me.  I am annoyed when I encounter those that don't follow logic or reason.  I also get annoyed when people are unhappy with other speaking their minds.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2011, 06:51:43 PM »
I am new here, but I dont see any reason why one shouldnt be able to criticze portnoy or his actions.  If you have some intellegeble thoughts, albiet negative about the guy, why not express them?
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2011, 06:54:51 PM »
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:51:43 PM
I am new here, but I dont see any reason why one shouldnt be able to criticze portnoy or his actions.  If you have some intellegeble thoughts, albiet negative about the guy, why not express them?
Saying "Fuck him" isn't exactly my definition of Intelligent criticism. 
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2011, 06:56:54 PM »
Quote from: bss4life15 on September 18, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:51:43 PM
I am new here, but I dont see any reason why one shouldnt be able to criticze portnoy or his actions.  If you have some intellegeble thoughts, albiet negative about the guy, why not express them?
Saying "Fuck him" isn't exactly my definition of Intelligent criticism.

well its not like hes saying "fuck you, you douche portnoy!!111!"

i think saying eh fuck him, we dont want him back is an intellegent comment
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2011, 06:57:46 PM »
How dare you call Adami a boy.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2011, 06:58:07 PM »
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:51:43 PM
I am new here, but I dont see any reason why one shouldnt be able to criticze portnoy or his actions.  If you have some intellegeble thoughts, albiet negative about the guy, why not express them?

I'll explain, because unlike chico, you seem to care. When it comes to band members, constructive criticism is fine, but personal criticism isn't.

It's pretty basic, keep it constructive and polite, that's all. He did neither.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2011, 06:59:26 PM »
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: bss4life15 on September 18, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:51:43 PM
I am new here, but I dont see any reason why one shouldnt be able to criticze portnoy or his actions.  If you have some intellegeble thoughts, albiet negative about the guy, why not express them?
Saying "Fuck him" isn't exactly my definition of Intelligent criticism.

well its not like hes saying "fuck you, you douche portnoy!!111!"

i think saying eh fuck him, we dont want him back is an intellegent comment

It's not.


Also,
Quote from: Chico on September 18, 2011, 06:50:11 PM
I don't kiss MP's Jewish pig ass

That enough?
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2011, 07:01:23 PM »
Quote from: Adami on September 18, 2011, 06:59:26 PM
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: bss4life15 on September 18, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:51:43 PM
I am new here, but I dont see any reason why one shouldnt be able to criticze portnoy or his actions.  If you have some intellegeble thoughts, albiet negative about the guy, why not express them?
Saying "Fuck him" isn't exactly my definition of Intelligent criticism.

well its not like hes saying "fuck you, you douche portnoy!!111!"

i think saying eh fuck him, we dont want him back is an intellegent comment

It's not.


Also,
Quote from: Chico on September 18, 2011, 06:50:11 PM
I don't kiss MP's Jewish pig ass

That enough?

hey im not defending that... but saying fuck him, i dont want him back is indeed an intelligable answer to the quesiton should he ever return, thats undeniable,
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2011, 07:03:14 PM »
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: bss4life15 on September 18, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: livehard on September 18, 2011, 06:51:43 PM
I am new here, but I dont see any reason why one shouldnt be able to criticze portnoy or his actions.  If you have some intellegeble thoughts, albiet negative about the guy, why not express them?
Saying "Fuck him" isn't exactly my definition of Intelligent criticism.

well its not like hes saying "fuck you, you douche portnoy!!111!"

i think saying eh fuck him, we dont want him back is an intellegent comment
An intelligent comment is something like "I don't approve of his actions over the past year and he has acted very immature and i don't think i would like to see him back."  Saying "fuck him" just makes yu sound like an idiot
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2011, 07:06:50 PM »
Quote from: johncal on September 18, 2011, 07:02:56 PM
How about a little respect for my thread and everybody cut the crap.

How does Mangini's feelings play in all this?  In the hypothetical return of MP, is Mangini leaving voluntarily?
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2011, 07:11:48 PM »
Quote from: Priest of Syrinx on September 18, 2011, 07:06:50 PM
Quote from: johncal on September 18, 2011, 07:02:56 PM
How about a little respect for my thread and everybody cut the crap.

How does Mangini's feelings play in all this?  In the hypothetical return of MP, is Mangini leaving voluntarily?

This is a good point, I think that Mangini should be able to play any concert he wants thus giving him a veto on a reunion concert.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2011, 07:15:02 PM »
In regards to the topic... I voted the 3rd. I'd be happy to see Mike reunite for a special reunion tour, perhaps hammer out a live version of the 12 Step Suite and all that... and I'd be more than happy to see another LTE album, but I think a fresh new start in the DT camp is what everyone needs in the long run and they'll all be thankful for it in years to come, I reckons.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2011, 07:25:29 PM »
So, how is everybody's day going so far?
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2011, 07:26:13 PM »
Quote from: johncal on September 18, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
I just had to come back.  It's like watching a guy fuck himself to death. But it's fun to watch.
Haha well looks like he's banned now, thankfully. :lol
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2011, 07:26:29 PM »
I think he's gone. If we try to get back on topic quickly, this thread might not get axed.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2011, 07:26:46 PM »
Quote from: Cranky on September 18, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
So, how is everybody's day going so far?

Actually really good. Thanks for askin'
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #52 on: September 18, 2011, 07:27:02 PM »
Yeah he's gone for good, sorry that took a while.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2011, 07:27:34 PM »
Quote from: Cranky on September 18, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
So, how is everybody's day going so far?

Fab ! Went out for a meal and Eric Clapton was at the restaurant !  :hat
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2011, 07:30:22 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on September 18, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: Cranky on September 18, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
So, how is everybody's day going so far?

Fab ! Went out for a meal and Eric Clapton was at the restaurant !  :hat

horseshit, youre kidding...? where was this?
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2011, 07:30:30 PM »
I'm gonna miss him.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2011, 07:31:11 PM »
So far it's 82 to 5 against Portnoy coming back permanently. That's saying something. I think that Portnoy's attitude had a lot to do with it, but with Mangini being just SO good for the group and the music as well, that's kind of solidifying people's feelings on things.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #57 on: September 18, 2011, 07:31:40 PM »
Quote from: Chico on September 18, 2011, 07:22:32 PM
Or maybe he died on his way home.
I know he's banned now...but I have to say this...
That's not a funny thing to say at all...I would cry if Bosk died...you shouldn't joke about people dying. That's horrible  :sadpanda:
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #58 on: September 18, 2011, 07:32:24 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on September 18, 2011, 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: Cranky on September 18, 2011, 07:25:29 PM
So, how is everybody's day going so far?

Fab ! Went out for a meal and Eric Clapton was at the restaurant !  :hat

GTFO!
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #59 on: September 18, 2011, 07:32:59 PM »
It was a surprise to me too !
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #60 on: September 18, 2011, 07:33:31 PM »
In Guildford in Surrey.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #61 on: September 18, 2011, 07:33:45 PM »
Quote from: VioletS16 on September 18, 2011, 07:31:40 PM
Quote from: Chico on September 18, 2011, 07:22:32 PM
Or maybe he died on his way home.
I know he's banned now...but I have to say this...
That's not a funny thing to say at all...I would cry if Bosk died...you shouldn't joke about people dying. That's horrible  :sadpanda:

No, that's just sick when people say things like that.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #62 on: September 18, 2011, 07:34:05 PM »
Yeah, it's weird to think that most of DT's fans wouldn't even care if MP came back.. For the most part, I think it's the way MP has been acting since the break-up that turned most fans off to him coming back into the band.. it's a real shame.  :-[
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #63 on: September 18, 2011, 07:34:10 PM »
Quote from: XJDenton on September 18, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
Yeah he's gone for good, sorry that took a while.

You could have at least taken my suggestion. Especially with this guy.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #64 on: September 18, 2011, 07:34:44 PM »

Looks like someone...


called TIME on Chico....

.. :hat YEEEAHHHH
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2011, 07:35:22 PM »
How about some opinions on the poll numbers so far to get back on topic??
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2011, 07:35:37 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on September 18, 2011, 07:34:44 PM

Looks like someone...


called TIME on Chico....

.. :hat YEEEAHHHH
:huh:  :lol
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2011, 07:37:02 PM »
Quote from: Adami on September 18, 2011, 07:34:10 PM
Quote from: XJDenton on September 18, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
Yeah he's gone for good, sorry that took a while.

You could have at least taken my suggestion. Especially with this guy.

What was that?
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2011, 07:37:40 PM »
Quote from: Cranky on September 18, 2011, 07:34:05 PM
Yeah, it's weird to think that most of DT's fans wouldn't even care if MP came back.. For the most part, I think it's the way MP has been acting since the break-up that turned most fans off to him coming back into the band.. it's a real shame.  :-[

For me, it's not so much his actions as the revelations that he and the band simply weren't getting on so well anymore. Adding Mangini to the fold seemed to not only re-energize their creativity, but it seemed to re-energize their connection as friends and human beings... and I think that really shows in the music and the live performances thus far.
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Re: Should Portnoy ever Return?
« Reply #69 on: September 18, 2011, 07:38:04 PM »
I feel like we should all be wearing "I survived Chico" tee shirts.
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