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How do you pronounce them?

wh-at, wh-en, over-wh-elmed
10 (13.5%)
wat, wen, overwelmed
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Offline rumborak

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How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« on: September 17, 2011, 04:47:52 AM »
So, 100 years ago apparently the majority of Americans still pronounced the aspirated "wh" sound in such words as what, when and overwhelmed. But, these days the sound has almost disappeared in every day language.
(if you don't know what I mean, it's breathing out while pronouncing the "w" sound)
I wanted to see how many here pronounce it the "old-school" way.

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 04:54:19 AM »
I don't pronounce the "h" at all.

Also, the first thing I thought of was cool whip.
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2011, 04:56:01 AM »
I don't pronounce the "h" at all.

Also, the first thing I thought of was cool whip.
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 05:21:43 AM »
depends who I am around. parents and such, I do say things prim and proper.

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 05:26:22 AM »

I tell you hwat.

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 07:00:07 AM »
I don't pronounce the h at all. I have a partner at work that does pronounce it and I get all Brian inside when it happens but I never tell her anything.
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 07:19:20 AM »
If I am talking softly, my breath will make me pronounce the h sound (weird, I know).

If I am speaking louder (like yelling at my class), then just the w.

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2011, 07:27:32 AM »
I had a professor in undergrad who pronounced the "h". It was pretty funny. He taught Milton. It was pretty fitting, come to thing of it.

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2011, 08:37:12 AM »
I've never heard anyone talk like that and would be rather terrified at the prospect of meeting someone who does. 

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2011, 08:49:38 AM »
I've been made fun of for continuing to pronounce the "h".  Every time.  That's how it was intended to be pronounced.

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2011, 08:53:21 AM »
I don't aspirate the wh. Hell, it's hard enough not to say "vat, ven, overvelmed" when your first language is German. :lol
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2011, 09:06:42 AM »
I mix them up, sometimes I say things properly, othertimes I'll miss out the 'h', no idea why.
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2011, 09:49:30 AM »
I don't pronounce the H. And those that do need to realize that the H doesn't come before the W.
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2011, 09:49:48 AM »
I don't aspirate the wh. Hell, it's hard enough not to say "vat, ven, overvelmed" when your first language is German. :lol

I know this German girl that made the double-switch with "vodka". She would pronounce it "oo-adka" because after all, in German it's spelled "Wodka"!

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2011, 09:53:05 AM »
I don't pronounce the H. And those that do need to realize that the H doesn't come before the W.

Well, it used to be. In Old English spelling the H was first, so it was "hwale" instead of "whale".

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2011, 10:21:11 AM »
I pronounce them "wat" , "when" , and "aw fuck it!!!"

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2011, 10:29:08 AM »
 :lol
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2011, 12:29:00 PM »
I'm just saying, you should be nicer to Hwil Hweaton, Hwil Hweaton seems like a nice guy.
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2011, 12:32:27 PM »
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2011, 12:33:37 PM »
I pronounce the "H".
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2011, 12:46:52 PM »
slight pronunciation of the H
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2011, 01:21:55 PM »
I'm just saying, you should be nicer to Hwil Hweaton, Hwil Hweaton seems like a nice guy.

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2011, 02:18:06 PM »
I pronounce the H because that's how you're supposed to pronounce it.

If you don't that means you say Witch and Which the same, and that's just wrong.
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2011, 02:34:09 PM »
H? We don't need no steenking h!
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2011, 02:37:41 PM »
Dictionary.com has both pronunciations: [hwich, wich]

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2011, 05:31:04 PM »
Dictionary.com has both pronunciations: [hwich, wich]

If it's on the internet, it must be true...right?

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2011, 10:19:03 PM »
I've been made fun of for continuing to pronounce the "h".  Every time.  That's how it was intended to be pronounced.

My only problem with this method of logic is that you're going to still have to make a choice to when the original was because language is always changing.

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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2011, 12:35:02 AM »
The Silent Ham :lol

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2011, 09:44:24 AM »
Very well observed! I will NEVER eat pork products....

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2011, 09:48:00 AM »
Very well observed! I will NEVER eat pork products....

That are not bacon...

Accompanied by milk...

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2011, 03:05:20 PM »
I've been made fun of for continuing to pronounce the "h".  Every time.  That's how it was intended to be pronounced.

My only problem with this method of logic is that you're going to still have to make a choice to when the original was because language is always changing.

Understood, but IMO, language will never change to the point where it's acceptable to pronounce "wh" sounds without the "h".

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2011, 03:06:59 PM »
I've never heard a person in school, not even a teacher, pronounce the silent h.

So, it sounds like language has changed to that point, at least on a regional basis.

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Re: How do you pronounced "what", "when" and "overwhelmed"?
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2011, 05:24:28 PM »
The h isn't silent.  As I said, it is my opinion that everybody saying it that way doesn't make it right.