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In The Name of God
« on: September 16, 2011, 08:37:57 PM »
ToT may not be my favourite album, but I absolutely love this song. It has to be in my top 5 favourite DT songs, and IMO is the 2nd best ending to an album (after LtL of course). Thoughts?

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2011, 08:39:55 PM »
It's my favorite song on that album and one of the best songs they've done in the last 10 years.  I dunno if it's top 10, but definitely top 20 material, right there. 

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 08:40:53 PM »
Great song, but the chorus just repeats too many times.  Can make it a difficult song for me to get through very often.  My favorite version is the LAB one because of the added epic JP solo at the end  :tup

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 08:48:27 PM »
It's my favorite song on that album and one of the best songs they've done in the last 10 years.  I dunno if it's top 10, but definitely top 20 material, right there.

I completely agree with all these statements.
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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2011, 09:03:43 PM »
It's my favorite song on that album and one of the best songs they've done in the last 10 years.  I dunno if it's top 10, but definitely top 20 material, right there.

I completely agree with all these statements.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2011, 09:38:48 PM »
It's a good song, top 50 DT for me.
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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2011, 09:48:18 PM »
The worst song on ToT. It's probably DT's simplest epic and one of DT's simpler songs period if you disregard the admittedly cool unison.

I don't know, something just rubs me the wrong way about this song. I just feel like a 14-minute song should tread a little more ground than In the Name of God does.

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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2011, 09:52:26 PM »
The worst song on ToT. It's probably DT's simplest epic and one of DT's simpler songs period if you disregard the admittedly cool unison.

I don't know, something just rubs me the wrong way about this song. I just feel like a 14-minute song should tread a little more ground than In the Name of God does.

Not all long songs are epic.  ITNOG is not an epic, it's a long song.
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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2011, 09:54:19 PM »
The worst song on ToT. It's probably DT's simplest epic and one of DT's simpler songs period if you disregard the admittedly cool unison.

I don't know, something just rubs me the wrong way about this song. I just feel like a 14-minute song should tread a little more ground than In the Name of God does.

Not all long songs are epic.  ITNOG is not an epic, it's a long song.
I get the feeling that DT was certainly *trying* to make an epic. The outro is certainly epic. But whether or not the song is indeed epic is quite beside the point I was trying to make.

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2011, 10:11:32 PM »
Who the hell cares about epic or not?  The song has amazing riffage, variety in the verses that totally groove and hit hard.  I love this song so much.  Don't get caught up if its epic or not.   I think epic is one of the stupidest words that people use to describe music.  /rant+appreciation for this great song.

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2011, 10:11:54 PM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2011, 10:29:13 PM »
I wouldn't go as far as saying that, but it comes damn close.

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2011, 10:30:37 PM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.
I agree... besides Endless Sacrifice.

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2011, 10:32:34 PM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.
I agree... besides Endless Sacrifice.
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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2011, 10:47:12 PM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2011, 11:46:04 PM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.

I think I might agree. I rank ITNOG extremely highly, like top 5. The later albums all have songs I rank very highly too, but probably none that can quite top ITNOG for me. :tup

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2011, 11:48:13 PM »
The worst song on ToT. It's probably DT's simplest epic and one of DT's simpler songs period if you disregard the admittedly cool unison.

I don't know, something just rubs me the wrong way about this song. I just feel like a 14-minute song should tread a little more ground than In the Name of God does.

Not all long songs are epic.  ITNOG is not an epic, it's a long song.

Well someone gets it. I love me some ITNOG so it's an all around winner.

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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2011, 11:51:54 PM »
It's MILES better than everything on the mediocre ToT except possibly SoC and Vacant.  Good song--if not as great as it's often made out to be--and the guitar solo at the end of the Budokan version (as I think someone already mentioned) is a sweet addition.

That said, it's quite a bit too long, and it has one of the worst instrumental sections DT have ever done.  Very, very bloated and completely uninteresting throughout to me, although from the sound of it, I'm sure it's extremely difficult to play.

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2011, 12:14:35 AM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.

I think I might agree. I rank ITNOG extremely highly, like top 5. The later albums all have songs I rank very highly too, but probably none that can quite top ITNOG for me. :tup

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2011, 12:25:27 AM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.
I can actually agree with this! It's a top 10 DT song for me.

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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2011, 01:42:08 AM »
I rank ITNOG veery highly, it's in my top10 definitely.
Anyway, I like almost each song from ToT. I don't get all this hate.
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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2011, 03:43:02 AM »
It's in my top 1...

My absolute favourite DT song.

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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2011, 04:57:11 AM »
Gonna be controversial here and say it may be one of my least favourite DT songs. Its way too long, and even if it was shorter it would still be boring

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2011, 06:45:34 AM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.
I agree... besides Endless Sacrifice.


Oh, god that single keyboard/guitar unison in Endless Sacrifice singlehandedly got me to start playing keyboards.

ITNOG is still better though >>

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2011, 07:04:42 AM »
It's a good song, but it seems to drag a little.
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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2011, 08:28:31 AM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.

I think I can agree with this.  In the Name of God is awesome from start to finish, doesn't have any lulls, and is an exciting listen all of the way through.  Two years ago, I would have said both The Count of Tuscany and Octavarium were better, but I am not always in the mood for OV's really slow build, and minutes 4-9 of The Count are simply pretty average DT fare.  The best moments of both songs are definitely pretty awesome, but as whole songs, they stop a bit short from being truly great.

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2011, 08:36:57 AM »
Amazing song. DT really did something special with TOT, and this song is the perfect closer for that era. I like ES slightly more from TOT, but this song comes close. And it is proper to use epic as an adjective to describe it.

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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2011, 08:39:31 AM »
And it is proper to use epic as an adjective to describe it.

And anyone who disagrees will have the outro Budokan solo come fight them in the face.
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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2011, 08:43:51 AM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.

I don't see what's so controversial about that.  Of course, I agree with it...
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2011, 08:54:18 AM »
Amazing song. DT really did something special with TOT, and this song is the perfect closer for that era. I like ES slightly more from TOT, but this song comes close. And it is proper to use epic as an adjective to describe it.

"Epic," as in the watered-down, teenage Internet vernacular?  I guess.  "Epic," as in the traditional definition?  No.

And it is proper to use epic as an adjective to describe it.

And anyone who disagrees will have the outro Budokan solo come fight them in the face.


So... tack on a nice solo to the end of Margaritaville, and it's an epic?  Interesting.

Anyway, I think ITNOG is a good song and I don't think it drags at all.  Octavarium the song is better, though, IMHO.
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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2011, 08:59:09 AM »
So... tack on a nice solo to the end of Margaritaville, and it's an epic?  Interesting.

If you tacked the ITNOG Budokan guitar solo to the end it? Hell yes! Cut it together and just try and say otherwise. :lol
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Re: In The Name of God
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2011, 08:59:40 AM »
Controversial opinion:


ITNOG is the best song to be found on ToT, SC, 8V and BC&SL.
I don't think it's that controversial.  I've rarely gotten any flack when I've said it's my favourite Dream Theater song, which it is.  Enough people regard it so highly that it isn't that surprising.

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2011, 09:03:38 AM »
Amazing song. DT really did something special with TOT, and this song is the perfect closer for that era. I like ES slightly more from TOT, but this song comes close. And it is proper to use epic as an adjective to describe it.

"Epic," as in the watered-down, teenage Internet vernacular?  I guess.  "Epic," as in the traditional definition?  No.

I think Hell's Kitchen is epic. It has that epic feel to it. I am talking musically. There is this grandeur to the music that Hell's Kitchen has, that INTOG has that Razor's Edge has, etc...so, lol.

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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2011, 09:14:57 AM »
"Epic," as in the watered-down, teenage Internet vernacular?  I guess.  "Epic," as in the traditional definition?  No.
What "traditional definition"? The traditional definition refers to a style of poetry. Only recently did we come to use it to refer to music at all.

EDIT: Now that I think of it, there are very few songs in my iTunes library that could literally be called epic. The only one that comes to mind as an accurate epic would be Symphony X's "The Odyssey" for obvious reasons.

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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2011, 09:21:09 AM »
INTOG's harmonic is the only harmonic in the world to give me chills. It's such a beastly and satisfying moment. The unison through to the harmonic is the best section of the album. And why the hell didn't they end the studio version with the Budokan outro? It is a far more powerful end to the song than the album version.